tvs intercooler size

[gsd2000]

Out of interest does anyone know the volume or exact dimensions of a TVs supercharger intercooler

Thanks

[gsd2000]

anyone?

I was just wondering if the edelbrock/walkinshaw/caddy LSA blower had a much larger valley intercooler

[PhillW]

gsd2000 said:

anyone?

I was just wondering if the edelbrock/walkinshaw/caddy LSA blower had a much larger valley intercooler

Does the LSA/GM blower not have the intercooler on top rather than in the valley as on the TVS.

Not sure on sizes though.

[gsd2000]

PhillW said:

gsd2000 said:

anyone?

I was just wondering if the edelbrock/walkinshaw/caddy LSA blower had a much larger valley intercooler

Does the LSA/GM blower not have the intercooler on top rather than in the valley as on the TVS.

Not sure on sizes though.

yep hence why i was wondering, if it is much larger then it would explain why you can run alot more boost and still stay cool

[anonymous-user]

gsd2000 said:

yep hence why i was wondering, if it is much larger then it would explain why you can run alot more boost and still stay cool

It's not, it has 2 small intercooler cores instead of one of the one in the Magnusson 2300. It has been proven that with an endless supply of cool water, the Maggie can keep IATs low as this what happened when mine was on the engine dyno. The problem is heat soak and this is made exponentially worse if you spin them outside their efficient RPM range.

I've been monitoring my own and when cruising I see 85 deg F. If I go WOT for a short to medium blast as you do on the road, that will go up to 100 deg F. Most I have seen is 110 deg F and that was while sitting in traffic. As soon as I get moving it goes back down quickly to 85 - 90. When Roger took it to Brunters for high speed mapping, he didn't see more than 120 deg F.

By comparison, when I was at VMax and the blower was seriously over driven, I saw 220 deg F.

600whp is about as much as the TVS2300 will make as beyond a certain point it flows no more air and just makes heat instead.

[gsd2000]

the reason i asked the question is because if an LSA engine which has a blower based on a TVS1900 can be over driven and not produce a stupid amount of heat then isnt that an arguably better design.

I just saw a video on edelbrocks website where they had a cutout and it looked like one big intercooler up top

[anonymous-user]

Actually, I stand correced - the LSA is a one piece intercooler:



While the LS9 is 2 piece because of the packaging issues of getting it under the bonnet of the ZR1

[EssexVXR8]

To get maximum efficiency of any of these setups you need to have good catch cans fitted to stop the cores getting an insulating film of oil over them, that's my 2p worth.

[ARAF]

gsd2000 said:

PhillW said:

gsd2000 said:

anyone?

I was just wondering if the edelbrock/walkinshaw/caddy LSA blower had a much larger valley intercooler

Does the LSA/GM blower not have the intercooler on top rather than in the valley as on the TVS.

Not sure on sizes though.

yep hence why i was wondering, if it is much larger then it would explain why you can run alot more boost and still stay cool

The ZL1 intercooler is bigger than that which used to be fitted to the CTS. They re-engineered it to get a bit more power than the LSA engine was making in the CTS. The GM 1.9 blower and intercooler that I tried to have fitted would not fit under the bonnet (or in front of the bulkhead) on a VXR8, and I doubt you have more room on a Monaro. I'm guessing that the one Mf tried for me was the later version, but I'm not totally sure.

[gsd2000]

ARAF said:

gsd2000 said:

PhillW said:

gsd2000 said:

anyone?

I was just wondering if the edelbrock/walkinshaw/caddy LSA blower had a much larger valley intercooler

Does the LSA/GM blower not have the intercooler on top rather than in the valley as on the TVS.

Not sure on sizes though.

yep hence why i was wondering, if it is much larger then it would explain why you can run alot more boost and still stay cool

The ZL1 intercooler is bigger than that which used to be fitted to the CTS. They re-engineered it to get a bit more power than the LSA engine was making in the CTS. The GM 1.9 blower and intercooler that I tried to have fitted would not fit under the bonnet (or in front of the bulkhead) on a VXR8, and I doubt you have more room on a Monaro. I'm guessing that the one Mf tried for me was the later version, but I'm not totally sure.

I dont plan to fit one i was just curious

[gsd2000]

EssexVXR8 said:

To get maximum efficiency of any of these setups you need to have good catch cans fitted to stop the cores getting an insulating film of oil over them, that's my 2p worth.

that is a very good point