Windscreen Issues

Author
Discussion

BeMo

Original Poster:

109 posts

183 months

Friday 10th May 2013
quotequote all
Hi all,
Looking for a diagnosis from someone more knowledgable than me. I first noticed a slight marks on the top corners of the windscreen a few months ago, I have been keeping an eye on it when washing at the weekend, and they are getting progressively worse. It is definitely some form of water ingress as when pressure is applied the clear areas seem to move slightly. My question is, is this a seal issue or the actual screen delaminating? And if it is the latter will my insurance replace the screen with the paid excess as if it were cracked? Dread to think the cost of a replacement screen if not as it's heated and has a rain sensor.

Insurance is with admiral and car is a '09 Fiesta. I know it's not much but it annoys me as I like to keep my car looking good!

Cheers








gog440

9,247 posts

190 months

Friday 10th May 2013
quotequote all
That looks like delamination to me but I am sure someone who knows more will be along in a minute, there is a guy on here called Glassman who fits windscreens, he is probably the best person to give an answer.

CoolC

4,216 posts

214 months

Friday 10th May 2013
quotequote all
Yep, that's delamination.

Do you have a picture of the markings on the screen? I should be able to tell you if it's the original or not.

BeMo

Original Poster:

109 posts

183 months

Friday 10th May 2013
quotequote all
Thanks for the replies, I thought it would be. I'll get some pictures of the stamp shortly, it's just started pouring down so don't fancy getting soaked!

nonuts

15,855 posts

229 months

Friday 10th May 2013
quotequote all
I was pleasantly surprised by the people Admiral used to replace mine recently, it's national windscreens and the guy did a great job.

At the end of the day, just hit it with a hammer, as soon as it's cracked you'll get no argument about changing it for £75 or whatever your policy says. Mine unfortunately decided to crack all by itself thanks to one to many stone chips.

BeMo

Original Poster:

109 posts

183 months

Friday 10th May 2013
quotequote all
That's good to know, was getting quite worried at the prospect of a £500+ bill and having read several horror stories regarding insurance replacement didn't fill me with confidence. Nice to hear a positive experience.

Here is the stamp:



Edited by BeMo on Saturday 11th May 16:30

CoolC

4,216 posts

214 months

Friday 10th May 2013
quotequote all
That is almost certainly the original screen, ford stamp and manufactured in 2008.


KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Friday 10th May 2013
quotequote all
Given how minor it is, I wouldn't bother claiming for a new one.

BeMo

Original Poster:

109 posts

183 months

Friday 10th May 2013
quotequote all
I do appreciate where you're coming from and have considered just leaving it as is. However I do spend a lot of time cleaning it etc and other than that it is pretty much spotless. It's also visible from quite a distance (to me anyway biggrin) and seems to have gotten a lot worse in the last 2 weeks.

Glassman

22,537 posts

215 months

Saturday 11th May 2013
quotequote all
Delam is quite common on some cars. Warranty won't cover glass and seals, but it may well get done under goodwill.

Replacing the glass either because it genuinely cracked, or as someone as already suggested, you have defrauded your insurance company, may result in a cheap copy glass (which will either delam, or stop working) being fitted to your car.

If it is purely for aesthetic reasons, Pilkington glass is probably your best option (either Ford OEM branded or just Pilkington branded). Yes, the one you have in the car is PLK, but overall, it is the better brand. Part of the problem is the exposed glass edge allowing the sandwich construction to break down.

Remember, making a claim on your insurance (even enquiring about making a claim) is recorded against your name on the Claims and Underwriter Exchange database (CUE) and may have an affect on your premiums overall (not to be confused with NCD).

BeMo

Original Poster:

109 posts

183 months

Saturday 11th May 2013
quotequote all
Glassman said:
Delam is quite common on some cars. Warranty won't cover glass and seals, but it may well get done under goodwill.

Replacing the glass either because it genuinely cracked, or as someone as already suggested, you have defrauded your insurance company, may result in a cheap copy glass (which will either delam, or stop working) being fitted to your car.

If it is purely for aesthetic reasons, Pilkington glass is probably your best option (either Ford OEM branded or just Pilkington branded). Yes, the one you have in the car is PLK, but overall, it is the better brand. Part of the problem is the exposed glass edge allowing the sandwich construction to break down.

Remember, making a claim on your insurance (even enquiring about making a claim) is recorded against your name on the Claims and Underwriter Exchange database (CUE) and may have an affect on your premiums overall (not to be confused with NCD).
I spoke to my local ford dealer and they were unable to help re goodwill, which is fair enough given the car is 4 years old although they did direct me toward a local windscreen fitting which they use regularly. They also said that the place uses Pilkington glass. I will try and get though there for an estimate.

Thanks for the heads up regarding the insurance I was not aware of that, I am doubtful they will replace for delamination anyway.