Living next to a noisy pub
Discussion
I posted something about' my troublesome neighbour some time ago. At the time many on PH were of the view that you moved next to a pub so put up with it. Since then the pub has been even more noisy and the landlord does not seem to want to deal with it. The music now carries to every room in my house.
1. There has always been some music at the pub but it has got much louder and amplified. Also they seem to like to keep the windows open adding to the noise pollution.
2. The pub has put tables and chairs onto the pavement in front of the pub. This is a pavement and NOT the pub's property. They were still drinking, shouting and swearing here at quarter to one on Sunday morning. To be fair when I phoned the pub to complain he moved them but surely it should never have happened.
I would add that I have lived here for many years, when I moved in the pub was a 'boozer', now it has changed.
Any ideas what to do next
1. There has always been some music at the pub but it has got much louder and amplified. Also they seem to like to keep the windows open adding to the noise pollution.
2. The pub has put tables and chairs onto the pavement in front of the pub. This is a pavement and NOT the pub's property. They were still drinking, shouting and swearing here at quarter to one on Sunday morning. To be fair when I phoned the pub to complain he moved them but surely it should never have happened.
I would add that I have lived here for many years, when I moved in the pub was a 'boozer', now it has changed.
Any ideas what to do next
Your Local Authority should have an online register in the Licensing section of its website. You will be able to view the premises licence, which will confirm who actually has the premises licence, the licensed hours and any particular conditions.
Furniture on the highway requires a 'street cafe' licence under the Highways Act 1980 (s115).
First thing is to complain in writing to the pub and premises licence holder, copying in the Licensing Department of the Local Authority.
Furniture on the highway requires a 'street cafe' licence under the Highways Act 1980 (s115).
First thing is to complain in writing to the pub and premises licence holder, copying in the Licensing Department of the Local Authority.
Edited by 10 Pence Short on Monday 22 July 21:11
Your Local Authority should have an online register in the Licensing section of its website. You will be able to view the premises licence, which will confirm who actually has the premises licence, the licensed hours and any particular conditions.
Furniture on the highway requires a 'street cafe' licence under the Highways Act 1980 (s115).
First thing is to complain in writing to the pub and premises licence holder, copying in the Licensing Department of the Local Authority.
Furniture on the highway requires a 'street cafe' licence under the Highways Act 1980 (s115).
First thing is to complain in writing to the pub and premises licence holder, copying in the Licensing Department of the Local Authority.
Edited by 10 Pence Short on Monday 22 July 21:11
rossw46 said:
I have some sympathy, but TBH Im glad to hear that a pub seems to be doing well, long may it prosper !
Too many being shut, demolished and turned into new build crap.
I actually agree with that. I sometimes drink in the pub but refuse to spend any money there while the music is playing. I prefer to drink in another pub.Too many being shut, demolished and turned into new build crap.
Sounds like the landlord does not give a single f
k. There are very specific laws about noise pollution from pubs in residential areas.
I know this, because I have had some very uncomfortable evenings recently in pubs...
I am a member of a rock band, and recently we have played pretty much every Friday and Saturday night in various pubs, most of them in residential areas.
Once we start playing, the staff have gone round and shut every single door and window, because of the regulations regarding noise pollution.
It ensures they comply with and keep their licences - but by jingo, it must have got up to well over 30 degrees inside those places - waahhh! I've been finishing gigs with clothes that look like I've dived into a swimming pool!
k. There are very specific laws about noise pollution from pubs in residential areas.I know this, because I have had some very uncomfortable evenings recently in pubs...
I am a member of a rock band, and recently we have played pretty much every Friday and Saturday night in various pubs, most of them in residential areas.
Once we start playing, the staff have gone round and shut every single door and window, because of the regulations regarding noise pollution.
It ensures they comply with and keep their licences - but by jingo, it must have got up to well over 30 degrees inside those places - waahhh! I've been finishing gigs with clothes that look like I've dived into a swimming pool!
Phone the Local Authority, speak to the Environment Dept/Noise Pollution Officer and find out what their process is for accepting a complaint.
Normally it involves collecting some evidence yourself - diary/video/recording - and ultimately they CAN serve a Noise Abatement Notice preventing the 'Nuisance'
BB
Normally it involves collecting some evidence yourself - diary/video/recording - and ultimately they CAN serve a Noise Abatement Notice preventing the 'Nuisance'
BB
I have some experience with a similar situation a few years ago but from the Licensee's side. Basically I worked in our local village pub on friday nights and during the summer we had complaints of noise from loud music and people sitting outside talking and smoking.
Our license had stipulations about times that music should stop and also a Dba limit measured from the edge of the road outside.
Before you go wading in with the authorities, you should visit the Licensee during the day time and discuss the problem with him or her in detail. The terms of the license have to be on display so you should reference this in your conversation. Try to get the Licensee to agree a "curfew" time at which the music will reduce to X and all outside activity will stop. We had to agree 11pm for the pub I worked in and with a bit of give and take it worked.
Our license had stipulations about times that music should stop and also a Dba limit measured from the edge of the road outside.
Before you go wading in with the authorities, you should visit the Licensee during the day time and discuss the problem with him or her in detail. The terms of the license have to be on display so you should reference this in your conversation. Try to get the Licensee to agree a "curfew" time at which the music will reduce to X and all outside activity will stop. We had to agree 11pm for the pub I worked in and with a bit of give and take it worked.
BoostMonkey said:
You moved next to a pub, pubs are noisy!
If you don't like noise move elsewhere.
If you read the OP, he is complaining that the noise is getting louder and for longer, this shows a lack of respect for the residents and the landlord seems too stupid to understand he needs to keep these people on side.If you don't like noise move elsewhere.
BigBob said:
Phone the Local Authority, speak to the Environment Dept/Noise Pollution Officer and find out what their process is for accepting a complaint.
Normally it involves collecting some evidence yourself - diary/video/recording - and ultimately they CAN serve a Noise Abatement Notice preventing the 'Nuisance'
BB
This!!Normally it involves collecting some evidence yourself - diary/video/recording - and ultimately they CAN serve a Noise Abatement Notice preventing the 'Nuisance'
BB
I had exactly the same issue and this sorted it (we'll for a time anyway) I now have another issue with the same pub and deliveries, but thats for another day
I would direct any complaint via the Licensing Department. CC Environmental Health/protection as the are a statutory consultee on licensing matters and the relevant department for noise. Doing it this way will ensure the complaint is logged against the premises licence from the perspective of the Licensing Act.
Prevention of 'Nuisance' is one of 4 aims of the Licensing Act (prevention of crime and disorder, protection of children from harm and public safety being the others).
Ultimately, you would be entited to ask th Local Authority for a review of the premises licence, were things to continue.
Prevention of 'Nuisance' is one of 4 aims of the Licensing Act (prevention of crime and disorder, protection of children from harm and public safety being the others).
Ultimately, you would be entited to ask th Local Authority for a review of the premises licence, were things to continue.
BoostMonkey said:
You moved next to a pub, pubs are noisy!
If you don't like noise move elsewhere.
I think what hes saying is that when he moved in years a go it was an old style quiet boozer. Now its an upbeat music/band playing pub that people go to in groups and leave in groups naking noise as they leave..If you don't like noise move elsewhere.
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