Putting numberplate on retention with no MOT

[ctid]

I've done a search on this but can't seem to find a definitive answer. I have an E36 coupe with a personalised registration on that I've been using for the past year. It's just failed its MOT and I'm going to be breaking it for parts. Can I put my plate on retention given that the old MOT expired last week? I think this used to be the case, but I'm sure I'd seen on here recently that you can do it as long as the car has had an MOT within the past couple of years.

[AGK]

Dodgy info on the DVLA site.

One part says does need one then the next says you need to include the MOT cert.

[mi1ne]

Pretty sure you need a valid MOT at the time of putting the plate on retention.

Seem to remember a story of a guy spending a fortune on a bucket of a car to get an MOT cert just to get an expensive plate from it. Could be wrong though.

[robdcfc]

Why not just date the retention paperwork a few days before the MOT ran out and send it off?

[NigelAllen]

You can, up to 6 months after the MOT expires (although they 'may' extend this up to 12 months if you're reasoning is good enough/find the right person)-if you explain the circumstances and the car remains taxed.

Done it 2 or 3 times

[ctid]

Thanks. I rang DVLA Swansea and the girl on the phone was adamant that you need a valid MOT at the time of transfer, but I'm going to try my local DVLA office and see if doing it face to face will bring any joy.

[AndrewEH1]

I'm sure a well written letter would help your case if your trip to the soon to be
closed local DVLA office is of no success.

We have saved a plate that we owned some 3 months after someone had forgotten to pay the retention fee...

[MrReg]

NigelAllen said:

You can, up to 6 months after the MOT expires (although they 'may' extend this up to 12 months if you're reasoning is good enough/find the right person)-if you explain the circumstances and the car remains taxed.

Done it 2 or 3 times

[AGK]

ctid said:

Thanks. I rang DVLA Swansea and the girl on the phone was adamant that you need a valid MOT at the time of transfer, but I'm going to try my local DVLA office and see if doing it face to face will bring any joy.

Local offices are no longer dealing with cherished plates.

[jay140285]

Local offices are still dealing with plates,

I put one from retention yesterday on the Wifes new car, and took one off my Jeep onto the Horse Lorry all at local office.

[sixspeed]

You can walk into the office, but they will just post it to Swansea.

Don't post the paperwork to a local office though. It will get ignored (as I found out after sending it in just after the change).

[B'stard Child]

ctid said:

I've done a search on this but can't seem to find a definitive answer. I have an E36 coupe with a personalised registration on that I've been using for the past year. It's just failed its MOT and I'm going to be breaking it for parts. Can I put my plate on retention given that the old MOT expired last week? I think this used to be the case, but I'm sure I'd seen on here recently that you can do it as long as the car has had an MOT within the past couple of years.

You can provided it's taxed or has been SORN with nor break between tax running out and SORN

MOT not a requirement but frequently is part of the process because DVLA have to supply back a "new" MOT with the correct reg on it.

Last time I sent docs for two cars to have the plates swapped they sent the expired MOT back as not required for any changes

[Chiswickboy]

DVLA website has recently been updated to include the fact that an MOT is required even for cars that are now exempt from requiring an MOT (pre 1960?.

[B'stard Child]

Chiswickboy said:

DVLA website has recently been updated to include the fact that an MOT is required even for cars that are now exempt from requiring an MOT (pre 1960?.

Doesn't seem to have changed

DVLA said:

Conditions for transferring a registration number

You can’t transfer a registration number:

starting with ‘Q’ or ‘NIQ’ for Northern Ireland registered vehicles
if it will make the vehicle it’s being transferred to look younger

Both vehicles must be:

registered with DVLA
available for inspection
of a type that needs an MOT or heavy goods vehicle (HGV) test certificate

Note - NEEDS not HAS TO HAVE valid MOT is the way I've understood it

Regarding Pre 1960 the requirements are specific to stop scrapyard and barn find plate rape of completly impracticle restoration vehicles

DVLA said:

Pre-1960 vehicles need a valid MOT to transfer a registration number.

Both vehicles should be currently taxed. However, if the vehicle that currently has the registration number is not taxed, you can still apply as long as:

the tax disc has run out in the last 12 months
there’s no break between the date the tax disc runs out and the start of the SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification)

[GC8]

MrReg said:

NigelAllen said:

You can, up to 6 months after the MOT expires (although they 'may' extend this up to 12 months if you're reasoning is good enough/find the right person)-if you explain the circumstances and the car remains taxed.

Done it 2 or 3 times

I thought that it was within the last twelve months for MOT? Has this been revised?