CATCH IT WHILE YOU CAN: AUDI RS2
CATCH IT WHILE YOU CAN: AUDI RS2
Thursday 13th February 2014

Catch it while you can: Audi RS2

It's the car that launched the Audi RS legend, and now available for less than you'd think



Seeing the news that Audi's launched a sporting A1 gets my mind into overdrive about the good - and bad - quick cars to comes out of Ingolstadt during past 20 years or so. They're calling it the new car the S1 - a name, which to me will always be forever associated with Walter Rohrl, Hannu Mikkola and the bonkers Group B short-wheelbase Quattro. With that in the back catalogue, the new one has a lot to live up to.

RS2 is 20 years old this year
RS2 is 20 years old this year
Go-faster Audis have been a bit hit and miss over the years, but we'll gloss over the imperfect ones. Instead we'll pause for a moment to celebrate the RS2 - one of the best cars ever to wear four rings. This prime slice of performance car genius was a collaborative effort between Porsche and Audi, which took the S2 Avant and turned it up amusingly into what is arguably the world's first superwagon.

Porsche installed a bigger KKK24 turbo, and boosted the lovely 20-valve turbocharged inline five's maximum power from 230 to 315hp. It had a six-speed manual driving four wheels through Audi's tough Quattro drivetrain, and a sprinkling of special parts, such as the Cup alloys and 968 brakes served notice that it was very much a thoroughbred product from Porsche's Zuffenhausen factory.

It's an 80 Avant to the untrained eye...
It's an 80 Avant to the untrained eye...
On the road, it didn't disappoint. Acceleration was vivid, and now legendary. In its 1994 road test Autocar cracked 0-30mph in 1.5 seconds and 60 in 4.8, aided by brilliant traction - and that's still pretty fast today. Yet for those not in the know, the RS2 looked like any other top-end Audi 80 Avant. The big wheels, Porsche mirrors and red reflector panel were subtle tell-tales, but in reality, this mid-sized estate passed by most people, and was capable of giving a stealthy kicking to some pretty serious machinery.

As Q-cars go, this was a good as it got back in the '90s. And I've wanted an RS2 badly ever since one gave me a drubbing while driving a Ford Focus RS at Mont Ventoux few years back. The Frenchman came from behind, caught me napping, nailed me exiting in a corner, and by the time my Ford spooled up in readiness to catch him, he was gone. I'd been mugged. All I could do was watch him pull decisively away and into the clouds.

315hp and 4WD meant 0-62 in 4.8 seconds
315hp and 4WD meant 0-62 in 4.8 seconds
Back then, good ones were still around £20,000, but that didn't stop me trying one out, such was my desire to own one. My memories of driving one are crystal sharp and dominated by the explosive acceleration once the turbo was spinning, hard-edged five-pot warble baying its accompaniment, and an almost maniacal desire to bang into the rev limiter thrown in for good effect. Then there was grip. Oh my goodness, the grip. Catapulting out of bends, or from hooning from toll booths, it went like a kicked cat.

I wasn't the only one who saw the RS2's potential as the ultimate Q-car. Back in 2006, H&H Auctions had an RS2 for sale, with a curiously low estimate, looking good in Nogaro Blue - definite bidding fodder. But the car had a story. It had originally been stolen from an Audi dealership before being converted into the ultimate getaway car by a gang of bank robbers. They disguised it as an 80 TDI Avant by changing its chassis plate, interior, bumpers, tailgate, and wheels - including the fitment of plastic wheel trims. The real shame is that the seller put it back to standard, and what's not recorded is whether the criminals got away or not. But it's a good bet the car would have had little trouble outpacing plod's Vauxhall Omegas.

And not an MMI dial in sight!
And not an MMI dial in sight!
If you want an Audi RS2 today, you won't need to resort to stealing one - but they are rare and getting harder to find by the day. But values have softened over the past four years, and if you can find an RS2, you'll find it's now temptingly affordable - with a perfectly usable example in your grasp from around £10,000. Trouble is, most owners love them, and won't sell unless they have to.

There are currently a couple in the PH classified ads, but it's the 1995 example in Warwickshire that tips the scales at £11,000, and ticks the understated Q-car box very effectively. It's leggy at 194,000 miles, but with tons of history, and uprated brakes, it has to be worth a look. We're down to 81 taxed and 37 on SORN'd examples left in the UK as of the end of 2013, so if you've found yourself hankering after an RS2, now's as good a time as any to pounce. Don't say I didn't tell you.



   

 

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BlackCup

Original Poster:

1,235 posts

204 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Faster than a McLaren F1 to 30mph! Crazy!
Love these cars!

Garlick

40,601 posts

261 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Sob.

Why did I sell?

VeeDub Geezer

461 posts

175 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Almost bought an S2 Avant a few years ago but couldn't find a decent one at a reasonable price. I've regretted not dropping my standards since.

I would donate a testicle for an RS2.

Veeayt

3,139 posts

226 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Great recipe - stick a Group B engine in an estate

tankplanker

2,479 posts

300 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Assuming you are buying a leggy one so not worth keeping it standard, what sort of performance could you get with a reasonable set of upgrades? Intake, exhaust, turbo + map?

Veeayt

3,139 posts

226 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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tankplanker said:
Assuming you are buying a leggy one so not worth keeping it standard, what sort of performance could you get with a reasonable set of upgrades? Intake, exhaust, turbo + map?
375 from MTM remap. Think close to 450 with a new turbo and bits. Never dynoed mine though.

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

155 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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I have a soft spot for these, but I can't think of one modern RS or even S Audi that wouldn't offer better or at least similar performance, lower running costs, and reliability.

As a collector's piece though they certainly have their place.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

208 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Garlick said:
Sob.

Why did I sell?
+1 wah!






Still I wouldn't want one with the steering wheel on the incorrect side and lower spec so I'll pass on the 11k example in the classifieds.

tankplanker

2,479 posts

300 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Veeayt said:
375 from MTM remap. Think close to 450 with a new turbo and bits. Never dynoed mine though.
450 must drop it to sub 4 seconds for the 60?!? (I know the 0-60 is a pretty pointless measure of performance)

Car like this is how it drives more than anything, some of the other RS aren't the most involving cars to drive.

161BMW

1,705 posts

186 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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I have only recently discovered reading what these were about. Would love one.
0-30 is faster than an 1995 F1 car driven by Jacques Villeneuve

Nors

1,291 posts

176 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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I know PH are saying prices are softening, but for a 'good' one (if you can find one) are way more than the £10k ish suggested. Nobody that has a respectable RS2 is going to part with it for £10k.

I have a mate that bought one at the end of last year, and finding anything decent took a fair while. He eventually got one with 96k on the clock, and whilst it is mechanically sound, it had a few cosmetic issues but still he chose to pay rather more the the price guide here suggests.

These cars are going to continue to climb in value and continue to become rarer. Only 180 RHD's made will see to that.

E24man

7,722 posts

200 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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I owned an oddball Audi 80 2.8 V6 Quattro Avant years ago in Poland - the build quality was great and someone had obviously discovered bits of a ruined RS2 and bolted them in - seats/gauges/steering wheel/wheels etc - it looked the part and went well enough for a trans-european jaunt to France and back. On returning to the UK I looked at the S2, RS2 and early S4/S6 with the same 5 cylinder turbo engines but I never did pull the trigger ending up instead in the BMW/Alpina camp.

ds666

3,094 posts

200 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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If the author was waiting for his RS to "spool up " when the RS2 passed him then the RS 2 must have been on the gas for minutes before hand as they have massive lag .
Still , great cars if a bit typically Audi in the handling department .

blade7

11,311 posts

237 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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I really fancied an RS2 a couple of years back but the 2 I looked at were total sheds and if the Audi forums were to be believed most were mullered. So I started thinking about a B5 RS4 but the potential financial grief put me off.

KaraK

13,649 posts

230 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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tankplanker said:
Assuming you are buying a leggy one so not worth keeping it standard, what sort of performance could you get with a reasonable set of upgrades? Intake, exhaust, turbo + map?
The RS2 essentially gets it's power over the standard S2 by doing pretty much that - doesn't mean you can't go higher though! A mate who is a PH-er is running ~433PS and 597Nm from his S2 so big figures can be made and the car handles them very well but you do need some pretty deep pockets!

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

206 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Always loved these. Such a great Q car, and whilst already a bit of a classic, surely will be a proper classic in the next 10/15 years?


y2blade

56,251 posts

236 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Good luck finding a "good" one for £10k.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/classic_cars.php?ca...


These are going up big time.

hondansx

4,697 posts

246 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Legend of a car!

MacD1

150 posts

144 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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blade7 said:
I really fancied an RS2 a couple of years back but the 2 I looked at were total sheds and if the Audi forums were to be believed most were mullered. So I started thinking about a B5 RS4 but the potential financial grief put me off.
You should have bought one, some good low millage B5 S4/RS4 are still out there, don't touch anything over 115K miles or you will be looking at a turbo replacement soon which is the real expensive job, once the engine is out you know the mechanic will find a whole other host of jobs to do. B5 RS4 are coming down to around 11K for a mapped example, which will produce 420bhp and are very reliable, now is a good time to buy, only another 5 yrs and they will be classic car status

Bacchus

601 posts

305 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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come on Pistonheads staff, yesterday Veg mentioned the RS2 in the Delta Integrale Competition thread...

Veg said:
I had a 16v and it drove as good if not better than an EVO and a third of the price! Regret selling it (wife won't drive left-hand drive cars) but now have an Audi RS2 which is very much a big integrale.......and I concur with the article as the Audi is like the integrale in that turbo lag is soooo addictive
If I mention these cars, is there a chance you do an article on them? wink

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