Suzuki Ignis Sport
Discussion
Hello all,
I'm slowly (very lowly compared to most on here) working my way through a list of cheap and fun Japanese cars and the latest is a 53 plate Suzuki Ignis Sport.
But going back a bit I have had a couple of FTOs over the last 8 years and genuinely love them and feel they're vastly underrated by a lot of people. A decent spec, facelift (and importantly manual) car is a good looking, fairly quick and lovely sounding thing. However, sadly, I have to sell mine as I can't really justify the running costs at the moment and the MOT gets a bit pricier each year now it's done almost 150,000 miles:
The FTO as it looks currently, waiting to be sold:
I did already replace the FTO with a MK2 1.8 MX-5. But 6 months later I wrote it off (on New Year's eve just gone, driving home from work - not a good start to my new year). Oops. Perhaps RWD isn't for me. Silly accident but the car was far too small inside for me to use daily really and although the roof down was great in nice weather there were probably too many other compromises for me to keep it long term anyway
So on to the current, and hopefully more long-term, replacement. I've been hunting for suitable replacements since New Year and all sorts of cars popped up including Legacy/outbacks (still very much on the radar for my next car), SAAB 9-3 turbos, Clio 172/182s and Suzuki swift sports. Most things failed on being too common, too expensive for a good example or a bit too much to insure and run (Alfa GTVs definitely fail in that category
).
I would love a 2006 onwards Swift Sport but even stretching my budget to £3k only left me with the real dogs and most of those were hundreds of miles away. So the Swift Sport will have to wait a year or two.
However whilst googling Swifts the Ignis Sport cropped up, quite often in-fact, and seemed like a very similar prospect in terms of driving enjoyment and general practicality and running costs whilst being a good bit cheaper to buy. i actually found a lot of threads on here where they were well recommended.
As it happens I lucked out when i searched, found one within a sensible distance from me and in good condition and went to test drive it. I'd bought it really before even starting the engine, it just seemed like a great buy and has loads of character. It's got an immaculate service history, next MOT is Jan next year, almost no damage or wear anywhere on the car and it's in a nice sensible colour (the bright yellow ones don't do much for me!).
So here it is on it's first weekend away zooming around Somerset:
It's been great so far, surprisingly decent load space with the seats folded down, nippy and grippy when pushing on and it feels light and nimble. Lovely and small too so I can park it almost anywhere. And no-one, at all knows what it is which I love - it's just more interesting than the usual sporty fiestas and corsas, perhaps less chavvy for it?
Almost nothing that needs doing on it other than the wheels which look a bit worse for wear close up. Thinking about a respray in white, or possibly anthracite, or even a full refurb if I can find somewhere that will do it for a good price.
Other than that I guess I might get a Pistonhead sticker and then just zoom around the countryside enjoying it. As long as it's still working in May it will be going up to Edinburgh via the lake district and back via the Yorkshire dales so that'll be a real test.
Cheers
I'm slowly (very lowly compared to most on here) working my way through a list of cheap and fun Japanese cars and the latest is a 53 plate Suzuki Ignis Sport.
But going back a bit I have had a couple of FTOs over the last 8 years and genuinely love them and feel they're vastly underrated by a lot of people. A decent spec, facelift (and importantly manual) car is a good looking, fairly quick and lovely sounding thing. However, sadly, I have to sell mine as I can't really justify the running costs at the moment and the MOT gets a bit pricier each year now it's done almost 150,000 miles:
The FTO as it looks currently, waiting to be sold:
I did already replace the FTO with a MK2 1.8 MX-5. But 6 months later I wrote it off (on New Year's eve just gone, driving home from work - not a good start to my new year). Oops. Perhaps RWD isn't for me. Silly accident but the car was far too small inside for me to use daily really and although the roof down was great in nice weather there were probably too many other compromises for me to keep it long term anyway
So on to the current, and hopefully more long-term, replacement. I've been hunting for suitable replacements since New Year and all sorts of cars popped up including Legacy/outbacks (still very much on the radar for my next car), SAAB 9-3 turbos, Clio 172/182s and Suzuki swift sports. Most things failed on being too common, too expensive for a good example or a bit too much to insure and run (Alfa GTVs definitely fail in that category
).I would love a 2006 onwards Swift Sport but even stretching my budget to £3k only left me with the real dogs and most of those were hundreds of miles away. So the Swift Sport will have to wait a year or two.
However whilst googling Swifts the Ignis Sport cropped up, quite often in-fact, and seemed like a very similar prospect in terms of driving enjoyment and general practicality and running costs whilst being a good bit cheaper to buy. i actually found a lot of threads on here where they were well recommended.
As it happens I lucked out when i searched, found one within a sensible distance from me and in good condition and went to test drive it. I'd bought it really before even starting the engine, it just seemed like a great buy and has loads of character. It's got an immaculate service history, next MOT is Jan next year, almost no damage or wear anywhere on the car and it's in a nice sensible colour (the bright yellow ones don't do much for me!).
So here it is on it's first weekend away zooming around Somerset:
It's been great so far, surprisingly decent load space with the seats folded down, nippy and grippy when pushing on and it feels light and nimble. Lovely and small too so I can park it almost anywhere. And no-one, at all knows what it is which I love - it's just more interesting than the usual sporty fiestas and corsas, perhaps less chavvy for it?
Almost nothing that needs doing on it other than the wheels which look a bit worse for wear close up. Thinking about a respray in white, or possibly anthracite, or even a full refurb if I can find somewhere that will do it for a good price.
Other than that I guess I might get a Pistonhead sticker and then just zoom around the countryside enjoying it. As long as it's still working in May it will be going up to Edinburgh via the lake district and back via the Yorkshire dales so that'll be a real test.
Cheers
Assumed this thread was going to be completely ignored because it wasn't about something with 300+bhp, so thanks for the nice comments
Likely to keep this one completely standard as it seems to be a pain in the arse to find any useful parts to modify them with outside of Japan.
It's odd as the FTO is just as rare but you could get hold of all sorts of bits for those quite easily in the UK.
If you do supercharge yours put some details on here, would love to know how it works out. Cheers
CTC P said:
Very underrated little cars :-) I have one in my workshop we are race prepping and adding a supercharger :-)
It's a fun little thing and nippy enough for me at the moment. I gather you can get about 170bhp from them once supercharged which must make it a riot to drive and a bit of a sleeper.Likely to keep this one completely standard as it seems to be a pain in the arse to find any useful parts to modify them with outside of Japan.
It's odd as the FTO is just as rare but you could get hold of all sorts of bits for those quite easily in the UK.
If you do supercharge yours put some details on here, would love to know how it works out. Cheers
Mine looked identical to yours.
I don't miss it at all, was so hard riding compared to the Saxo it replaced.
It was by far the most reliable car I have ever had though, was poor on fuel on long journeys though, Leeds to Cornwall at 5000 RPM was noisy and economical, more due to aerodynamics than the engine I imagine.
But it's not what it was meant for, if I could have one as a 5th car I'd love one now
I don't miss it at all, was so hard riding compared to the Saxo it replaced.
It was by far the most reliable car I have ever had though, was poor on fuel on long journeys though, Leeds to Cornwall at 5000 RPM was noisy and economical, more due to aerodynamics than the engine I imagine.
But it's not what it was meant for, if I could have one as a 5th car I'd love one now
Well I guess I'll see if I feel the same once I've had it a few months!
So far it's so much better on fuel than the FTO (especially doing my 4 odd mile commute where the FTo wasn't even warmed up when I got to work) that it might as well be a diesel for me. low 20s in the FTo compared to high 30s in the Ignis.
The ride is a tad jittery but I've always had cheap, old and mostly Jap cars that haven't been much better. Don't drive too many rough back roads so hopefully won't be a major issue.
I am taking it to Edinbirgh (via the lake district and dales) in May though. That 1,000 mile or more trip will definitely decide whether I keep it more longterm or swap to something big and comfy like a SAAB 9-3 or legacy
So far it's so much better on fuel than the FTO (especially doing my 4 odd mile commute where the FTo wasn't even warmed up when I got to work) that it might as well be a diesel for me. low 20s in the FTo compared to high 30s in the Ignis.
The ride is a tad jittery but I've always had cheap, old and mostly Jap cars that haven't been much better. Don't drive too many rough back roads so hopefully won't be a major issue.
I am taking it to Edinbirgh (via the lake district and dales) in May though. That 1,000 mile or more trip will definitely decide whether I keep it more longterm or swap to something big and comfy like a SAAB 9-3 or legacy
eggchaser1987 said:
Pictures in Cheddar by any chance? Completely OT but profile sais you work in conservation, is that environmental conservation?
Yup, pictures in cheddar. Every car i buy or drive has to have a run up the gorge! Was more in environmental/wildlife conservation. Now more in countryside management (less of the conservation element which is a shame as it's my main passion by some stretch - well above cars and cheese).
Japveesix said:
eggchaser1987 said:
Pictures in Cheddar by any chance? Completely OT but profile sais you work in conservation, is that environmental conservation?
Yup, pictures in cheddar. Every car i buy or drive has to have a run up the gorge! Was more in environmental/wildlife conservation. Now more in countryside management (less of the conservation element which is a shame as it's my main passion by some stretch - well above cars and cheese).
Hope you don't mind if I do, but when I get on the laptop tomorrow would it be possible to pm you about the conservation/countryside stuff?
Looking for a decent job as current employers in the construction part are taking the piss a bit, have both countryside and construction background but enjoy country work much more
eggchaser1987 said:
There is a meet being planned around cheddar in the south west section if your interested.
Hope you don't mind if I do, but when I get on the laptop tomorrow would it be possible to pm you about the conservation/countryside stuff?
Looking for a decent job as current employers in the construction part are taking the piss a bit, have both countryside and construction background but enjoy country work much more
Yeah go for it. I know the sector though fairly well I guess. Hope you don't mind if I do, but when I get on the laptop tomorrow would it be possible to pm you about the conservation/countryside stuff?
Looking for a decent job as current employers in the construction part are taking the piss a bit, have both countryside and construction background but enjoy country work much more
Might make the cheddar meet if the girlfriend can be convinced!
Japveesix said:
Yeah go for it. I know the sector though fairly well I guess.
Might make the cheddar meet if the girlfriend can be convinced!
Thank you very much, PM sent and hope it makes sence!Might make the cheddar meet if the girlfriend can be convinced!
I shall hopefully be turning up at cheddar weather depending though so fingers crossed it will be dry
Just a quick update as I've had my Ignis now for about 3 months and have just taken it (and my girlfriend) on holiday from Bristol to Edinburgh and back via various National Parks, interesting cities and amazing roads. After all that driving I genuinely love the car, it's great fun to drive, nippy enough to overtake and is perfect for winding and steep mountain passes.
The first 4 1/2 hours of driving got us to Windermere (we actually stayed in Ambleside) and for the last half hour just as we came off the M6 and into the Lakes I followed a lovely white E92 M3 complete with PH sticker and a Scottish flag, so hi if you're on here!
IMG_8783 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
On our first day there we crammed in a silly amount of stops. i swear you can take a photo anywhere in the Lake District and it will always look stunning - the scenery is just lovely everywhere.
Very first stop at the end of Thirlmere:
IMG_8864 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
I wussed out of driving it right down onto the pebble beach for fear of how ridiculous I'd feel if it didn't want to drive back up again....
IMG_8931 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
So then after stopping at Bassenthwaite to spot ospreys and a slightly scabby looking red squirrel we popped to Whinlatter forest park for a cup of tea and a walk before heading for the main aim of the day the infamous Hardknott Pass.
IMG_9037 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
I'd goggled the pass before we started the trip and it was always high on the list of things to do but I had also read a few too many horror stories of people struggling to drive it or getting stuck and having to wait hours to be recovered. I actually ended up a bit nervous when we reached the bottom, not helped by my girlfriend who is a dreadful passenger:
Anyway, predictably, we zoomed up to the top with ease the little suzuki being perfect with bugger all weight, a good turning circle and plenty of power. I wasn't quite as confident in my handbrake when I got out half way up to take photos but thankfully it didn't roll off down the hill!
IMG_9039 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
And at the bottom again where we realised how many families and tourists in completely normal family cars were driving up the pass and it really isn't as scary as some online reports might suggest!
IMG_9044 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
It was really nice having empty, fun roads all to ourselves. It all made the South West seemed incredibly busy:
IMG_9055 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
So Hardknott Pass basically goes straight into the Wrynose Pass on it's way to Ambleside and that was equally fun and had some lovely views (though the weather really wasn't letting us enjoy them properly).
Ignis Sport - Wrynose Pass by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
On the second day we decided to take it a bit easier on the car and popped out the back of Ambleside and over the Kirkstone Pass to Ullswater to waste the day photographing waterfalls at Aira Force. Another really nice road with some stunning views (and a nice pub) up at the top. As it happens the road along the side of Ullswater lake is fairly fun too, wiggling all over the place and never more than 30feet from the water's edge.
Looking down towards Ullswater:
IMG_9161 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
Next day we left the Lakes to head towards Edinburgh but ended up taking a rather huge diversion from Carlisle across to Kielder Forest Park in Northumberland, primarily to see a few more red squirrels and various birds.
The roads around there are empty, very empty in fact. And fast, really quite easy to make rapid progress. I doubt we passed more than a couple of cars and 2 or 3 logging trucks in around 30 miles of driving.
Heading into Kielder forest:
IMG_9303 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
After taking a few hundred blurry and badly exposed photos of various birds and squirrels we set off for Edinburgh. I stopped on this nice straight for a quick snap and then launched it towards the horizon (definitely feels quicker than it's 8.9 to 60 book time). My girlfriend hated this.
IMG_9495 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
After getting to Edinburgh and drinking with friends we went out the next day towards North Berwick with the main intention of getting on a boat and going to see these:
IMG_9720 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
Bass Rock is lovely and we were really lucky with the weather. This was also the first day my girlfriend did some of the driving, and the first time she's ever driven the car. Apart from stalling every time she stopped at a junction it all went better than expected and it scares her far less than my noisey old FTO. Noise = speed = danger you see. The Ignis is nice and quiet so it must be safe...
We also stopped at Tantallon castle on the coast before nipping down to St Abbs Head to see more seabirds (as well as being lucky to see hares and seals).
Bass Rock from Tantallon Castle:
IMG_9970 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
The following day we left Edinburgh to head to Leeds (via Durham) and stopped for our first tea break at Lindisfarne, the Holy Island. the causeway was actually supposed to have been flooded well before we arrived but we had just enough time to zoom over it (following a celica 190 at legal speeds....) have a quick look about and grab a couple of pics on the way back. If we'd taken too long and got stuck on the island if would have somewhat ruined our travel plans for the day so unfortunately didn't have much time to look around as it really did look like a stunning place:
IMG_0216 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
I also got this rather stunning, possibly award winning, picture of the Angel of the North:
IMG_0224 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
After stopping in Durham and admiring the fantastic cathedral, and climbing it's very high and claustrophobic tower we carried on towards Leeds.
Durham cathedral (lovely city):
IMG_0231 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
We stopped at the services near Wetherby off the A1 (M) where I parked up by a beautiful Aston DB7 GT (still prefer these to most of the newer Astons) and just as we got out of the car and mini convoy of ferraris pulled out to go back on the motorway, a stunning red 328 GTS (with 328 related plate) and a baby blue 430 scuderia. Nice sound as they drove off.
From our friend's house just North of Leeds we headed up to the Yorkshire Dales. For once we didn't use my car so i just enjoyed the views, the red kites and the (mostly) dreadful weather which miraculously cleared once we got to our destination of Malham so we did manage to get a decent walk in and see the great limestone pavements.
IMG_0344 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
Our final day was mainly just driving back to Bristol though we did decide to go a tad off-route again to squeeze in one more fun road, the Snake Pass which goes between Manchester and Sheffield. The weather was grotty so people were driving fairly sensibly (bar the black RS4 that flew passed us in a roar of V8 noise whilst we were taking pictures):
IMG_0371 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
The Peak District looked really scenic and we definitely intend to go back there to explore properly, even if for most of our journey through it it looked much like this:
IMG_0396 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
I swear the second we were back in the South West it was sunny again, the weather around Yorkshire and the Midlands was miserable in comparison!
My girlfriend bravely drove most of the last leg of the journey, including some of the nice roads across the bottom of the peaks towards Chesterfield so i took a bunch of crap photos out of the window that I won't bother posting. The countryside all looked like this though so it was rather pleasant and reminded me of being out on Dartmoor, very similar landscape.
IMG_0422 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
After that the car made it back to Bristol having done 1300 miles, 4 National Parks, about 20 counties and I only saw 3 PH stickers on the whole journey! Don't think I was spotted at all either....oh well, will have to do it again in a bright orange diablo next time...I'll start saving.
In summary - the Ignis is cracking, great fun to drive being very nimble and extremely light and quick enough to keep up with faster cars on the right windy roads. It does seriously run out of steam at about 100mph but then I don't tend to get anywhere near that on a regular basis so it's not a big issue. It also has cup holders, these are awesome.
The first 4 1/2 hours of driving got us to Windermere (we actually stayed in Ambleside) and for the last half hour just as we came off the M6 and into the Lakes I followed a lovely white E92 M3 complete with PH sticker and a Scottish flag, so hi if you're on here!
IMG_8783 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
On our first day there we crammed in a silly amount of stops. i swear you can take a photo anywhere in the Lake District and it will always look stunning - the scenery is just lovely everywhere.
Very first stop at the end of Thirlmere:
IMG_8864 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
I wussed out of driving it right down onto the pebble beach for fear of how ridiculous I'd feel if it didn't want to drive back up again....
IMG_8931 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
So then after stopping at Bassenthwaite to spot ospreys and a slightly scabby looking red squirrel we popped to Whinlatter forest park for a cup of tea and a walk before heading for the main aim of the day the infamous Hardknott Pass.
IMG_9037 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
I'd goggled the pass before we started the trip and it was always high on the list of things to do but I had also read a few too many horror stories of people struggling to drive it or getting stuck and having to wait hours to be recovered. I actually ended up a bit nervous when we reached the bottom, not helped by my girlfriend who is a dreadful passenger:
Anyway, predictably, we zoomed up to the top with ease the little suzuki being perfect with bugger all weight, a good turning circle and plenty of power. I wasn't quite as confident in my handbrake when I got out half way up to take photos but thankfully it didn't roll off down the hill!
IMG_9039 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
And at the bottom again where we realised how many families and tourists in completely normal family cars were driving up the pass and it really isn't as scary as some online reports might suggest!
IMG_9044 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
It was really nice having empty, fun roads all to ourselves. It all made the South West seemed incredibly busy:
IMG_9055 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
So Hardknott Pass basically goes straight into the Wrynose Pass on it's way to Ambleside and that was equally fun and had some lovely views (though the weather really wasn't letting us enjoy them properly).
Ignis Sport - Wrynose Pass by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
On the second day we decided to take it a bit easier on the car and popped out the back of Ambleside and over the Kirkstone Pass to Ullswater to waste the day photographing waterfalls at Aira Force. Another really nice road with some stunning views (and a nice pub) up at the top. As it happens the road along the side of Ullswater lake is fairly fun too, wiggling all over the place and never more than 30feet from the water's edge.
Looking down towards Ullswater:
IMG_9161 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
Next day we left the Lakes to head towards Edinburgh but ended up taking a rather huge diversion from Carlisle across to Kielder Forest Park in Northumberland, primarily to see a few more red squirrels and various birds.
The roads around there are empty, very empty in fact. And fast, really quite easy to make rapid progress. I doubt we passed more than a couple of cars and 2 or 3 logging trucks in around 30 miles of driving.
Heading into Kielder forest:
IMG_9303 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
After taking a few hundred blurry and badly exposed photos of various birds and squirrels we set off for Edinburgh. I stopped on this nice straight for a quick snap and then launched it towards the horizon (definitely feels quicker than it's 8.9 to 60 book time). My girlfriend hated this.
IMG_9495 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
After getting to Edinburgh and drinking with friends we went out the next day towards North Berwick with the main intention of getting on a boat and going to see these:
IMG_9720 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
Bass Rock is lovely and we were really lucky with the weather. This was also the first day my girlfriend did some of the driving, and the first time she's ever driven the car. Apart from stalling every time she stopped at a junction it all went better than expected and it scares her far less than my noisey old FTO. Noise = speed = danger you see. The Ignis is nice and quiet so it must be safe...
We also stopped at Tantallon castle on the coast before nipping down to St Abbs Head to see more seabirds (as well as being lucky to see hares and seals).
Bass Rock from Tantallon Castle:
IMG_9970 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
The following day we left Edinburgh to head to Leeds (via Durham) and stopped for our first tea break at Lindisfarne, the Holy Island. the causeway was actually supposed to have been flooded well before we arrived but we had just enough time to zoom over it (following a celica 190 at legal speeds....) have a quick look about and grab a couple of pics on the way back. If we'd taken too long and got stuck on the island if would have somewhat ruined our travel plans for the day so unfortunately didn't have much time to look around as it really did look like a stunning place:
IMG_0216 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
I also got this rather stunning, possibly award winning, picture of the Angel of the North:
IMG_0224 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
After stopping in Durham and admiring the fantastic cathedral, and climbing it's very high and claustrophobic tower we carried on towards Leeds.
Durham cathedral (lovely city):
IMG_0231 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
We stopped at the services near Wetherby off the A1 (M) where I parked up by a beautiful Aston DB7 GT (still prefer these to most of the newer Astons) and just as we got out of the car and mini convoy of ferraris pulled out to go back on the motorway, a stunning red 328 GTS (with 328 related plate) and a baby blue 430 scuderia. Nice sound as they drove off.
From our friend's house just North of Leeds we headed up to the Yorkshire Dales. For once we didn't use my car so i just enjoyed the views, the red kites and the (mostly) dreadful weather which miraculously cleared once we got to our destination of Malham so we did manage to get a decent walk in and see the great limestone pavements.
IMG_0344 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
Our final day was mainly just driving back to Bristol though we did decide to go a tad off-route again to squeeze in one more fun road, the Snake Pass which goes between Manchester and Sheffield. The weather was grotty so people were driving fairly sensibly (bar the black RS4 that flew passed us in a roar of V8 noise whilst we were taking pictures):
IMG_0371 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
The Peak District looked really scenic and we definitely intend to go back there to explore properly, even if for most of our journey through it it looked much like this:
IMG_0396 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
I swear the second we were back in the South West it was sunny again, the weather around Yorkshire and the Midlands was miserable in comparison!
My girlfriend bravely drove most of the last leg of the journey, including some of the nice roads across the bottom of the peaks towards Chesterfield so i took a bunch of crap photos out of the window that I won't bother posting. The countryside all looked like this though so it was rather pleasant and reminded me of being out on Dartmoor, very similar landscape.
IMG_0422 by South West Wildlife, on Flickr
After that the car made it back to Bristol having done 1300 miles, 4 National Parks, about 20 counties and I only saw 3 PH stickers on the whole journey! Don't think I was spotted at all either....oh well, will have to do it again in a bright orange diablo next time...I'll start saving.
In summary - the Ignis is cracking, great fun to drive being very nimble and extremely light and quick enough to keep up with faster cars on the right windy roads. It does seriously run out of steam at about 100mph but then I don't tend to get anywhere near that on a regular basis so it's not a big issue. It also has cup holders, these are awesome.
Edited by Japveesix on Sunday 18th May 17:50
Some nice pics there, and always got a bit of a soft spot for the little Iggy.
Was it last weekend you was in the Yorkshire Dales Sunday 11th? I followed one for quite a few miles in black, but was about 1 car behind so couldn't see if there was a PH sticker or not, I took my Rallye Green Fabia vRS for a good drive around there and headed out towards the Lakes aswell, until the missus was getting sick of being in the car so long.
Was it last weekend you was in the Yorkshire Dales Sunday 11th? I followed one for quite a few miles in black, but was about 1 car behind so couldn't see if there was a PH sticker or not, I took my Rallye Green Fabia vRS for a good drive around there and headed out towards the Lakes aswell, until the missus was getting sick of being in the car so long.
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