RE: McLaren P1 track version planned
RE: McLaren P1 track version planned
Wednesday 7th May 2014

McLaren P1 track version planned

'Do you want an extreme track-only P1 as well?' McLaren asks existing owners



McLaren has written to all P1 'clients' asking them if they'd be interested in a "more extreme" track spec version of the hybrid hypercar to accompany their roadgoing P1.

Indeed, ownership of a P1 would be the minimum entry criteria. That and the necessary money and room in your garage to add a track version of which McLaren is saying it would make in a "low double digits" production run. A price has not yet been mooted but this would be a "distinct model" in McLaren's words and only put into production once all 375 road cars have been built. Like Ferrari's FXX programme this would not simply be a case of buying a car to sit and admire in your air conditioned man cave - McLaren will be supporting the new model with competitive track events for owners to prove their mettle against each other.

Technical details have not been revealed, beyond confirming that the P1 track car (if built) will have "more power and torque, wider track, ride set in Race mode" and will retain the IPAS system. Fixed aero is also being discussed but yet to be confirmed. There's no mention of weight savings but given the stripping out of the stuff required for street usability you'd have to hope for some weight reduction; there's no 'duality' needed here.

Given the potential performance levels of such a car McLaren's offer of driver training as part of the owner programme seems sensible. Performance upgrades in the car are one thing but if you're going to make the most of it you'll need some skill-based ones too. And, perhaps, bigger neck muscles.

Just so long as it makes big flames we'll be happy.

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UltimaCH

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3,181 posts

210 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Looking forward on learning more of this beast. It will certainly be wicked indeed.

dukebox9reg

1,677 posts

169 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Read some rumours over the last week of a possible track version LaF. Obviously a response.

Be interesting how it would compare to true race cars in speed considering the road P1 is meant to be as quick as a GT3 racecar already.

NXXN

111 posts

147 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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LaFerrariXX and P1. Gentleman's race series anyone?

The Surveyor

7,617 posts

258 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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NXXN said:
LaFerrariXX and P1. Gentleman's race series anyone?
Or better still, get them to Le Mans.....

EskimoArapaho

5,135 posts

156 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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biggrin I think this is from "How to Milk Your Market 101"

g4ry13

20,509 posts

276 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Thank god, I was thinking the current one is a bit tame.

B2UFO

43 posts

150 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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They should put a V12 in the track version and take out the hybrid system.
Would love to see Mclaren's today's magic on a V12.

Please make before we say good bye to V12s.

Dr G

15,761 posts

263 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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B2UFO said:
They should put a V12 in the track version and take out the hybrid system.
Would love to see Mclaren's today's magic on a V12.

Please make before we say good bye to V12s.
One customer has ordered a non-hybrid car through MSO already. Apparently his bill is 'quite large'.

I fully expect a 'custard' on that comment!

scubadude

2,619 posts

218 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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B2UFO said:
They should put a V12 in the track version and take out the hybrid system.
Would love to see Mclaren's today's magic on a V12.
Wouldn't that TOTALLY miss the point? Take a car designed around one power plant and try and shoehorn in a mahoosive V12, it'd end up like that Venom abortion of the Lotus!

The torque-fill hybrid style power plant is the whole point, a small boosted to the max motor with electrickery to fix the torque curve clearly delivers a similar output as the V12-Hybrid in the LaFerrari anyway and is undoubtably the way forward for IC cars in general.

I'm sure MaLaren have some tinker room in the software to turn the beast into a proper track car (1000+hp with torque to rip the planet off its axis?)


I have to hand it too McLaren though, make the most extreme road car ever then offer the customers a more extreme version- "So you enjoyed our pure Cocaine, can we tempt you with some Enriched Cocaine?"

FourWheelDrift

91,635 posts

305 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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B2UFO

43 posts

150 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Your right with the tech McLaren have there would be no point in having a big heavy V12 in the P1.

Plus I can't say it would be better with a V12 because I haven't driven the P1 I never say never but the chances are slim to drive that awesome looking machine.

I'm just a V12 fan and will miss those big V12 super cars. Although I'm a Ferrari nut the LaFerrari sounds amazing but the looks of the thing just don't do it for me. The P1 just looks stunning in my eyes.

suffolk009

7,079 posts

186 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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I hope they call it the LM. The last one turned out quite nicely.


unpc

2,979 posts

234 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Am I alone in thinking that the top class at Le Mans would be infinitely better by being based on the current crop of road based hypercars? I used to be a massive endurance racing fan but the current prototypes leave me stone cold.

Would potentially remove some of the speed differential between classes too.

Rephlex

22 posts

153 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Wonder what time it could do the ring in whistle

H100S

1,436 posts

194 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Dr G said:
One customer has ordered a non-hybrid car through MSO already. Apparently his bill is 'quite large'.

I fully expect a 'custard' on that comment!
surely this would make it slower? Even considering any weight saving.

rj1986

1,107 posts

189 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Dr G said:
One customer has ordered a non-hybrid car through MSO already. Apparently his bill is 'quite large'.

I fully expect a 'custard' on that comment!
Is this rebuilding/modifying an existing P!, or are they just building a one-off?

ukaskew

10,642 posts

242 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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Dr G said:
One customer has ordered a non-hybrid car through MSO already. Apparently his bill is 'quite large'.

I fully expect a 'custard' on that comment!
Aside from 'just being different' I'm struggling to see the point in this. Surely it's going to be a slightly slower, slightly less useable, turbo-lag fest of a thing? Ok it will be a bit lighter, but the whole car was designed around the hybrid system.

epom

13,920 posts

182 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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g4ry13 said:
Thank god, I was thinking the current one is a bit tame.
+1 smile
How much does a 2/3 year old F1 car cost these days ??

suffolk009

7,079 posts

186 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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unpc said:
Am I alone in thinking that the top class at Le Mans would be infinitely better by being based on the current crop of road based hypercars? I used to be a massive endurance racing fan but the current prototypes leave me stone cold.

Would potentially remove some of the speed differential between classes too.
Entirely with you on that one. I remember seeing the McLaren F1s winning. Even the Porsches and Mercs looked related to the road cars (albeit with a hall of mirrors/steroid abuse)

Then it all went wrong with the prototypes and diesels.

Chris Harris

500 posts

174 months

Wednesday 7th May 2014
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My neck's still recovering from the 'street' version. As is my vocabulary.