Parrot MKi9200 and CDR-24 with Bose?
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Hi All,
I get a feeling I'm going to be posting lots of Stereo/MP3 related questions on here...
Having searched this forum, the internet, racked my brains, asking random strangers and generally getting to the end of my tether, I understand it may be possible to connect the Parrot MKi9200 with my Porsche Cayman with CDR-24 and Bose.
One installer has told me that it is only possible if I bypass the Bose amp for audio from the Parrot, which I do not want to do. So, CD audio would still go through the amp, but MP3 audio from the Parrot would not.
Another installer is telling me that he can hook the Parrot into the MOST ring before the amp, so that I retain all of my speakers and the sub woofer for MP3 playback.
I was just wondering if anyone knows whether this is correct or not? I don't know much about car audio, and I don't know the installer, so I'm a bit worried about letting him play with my new car!
Does anyone have this same setup? Any issues?
Thanks
I get a feeling I'm going to be posting lots of Stereo/MP3 related questions on here...
Having searched this forum, the internet, racked my brains, asking random strangers and generally getting to the end of my tether, I understand it may be possible to connect the Parrot MKi9200 with my Porsche Cayman with CDR-24 and Bose.
One installer has told me that it is only possible if I bypass the Bose amp for audio from the Parrot, which I do not want to do. So, CD audio would still go through the amp, but MP3 audio from the Parrot would not.
Another installer is telling me that he can hook the Parrot into the MOST ring before the amp, so that I retain all of my speakers and the sub woofer for MP3 playback.
I was just wondering if anyone knows whether this is correct or not? I don't know much about car audio, and I don't know the installer, so I'm a bit worried about letting him play with my new car!
Does anyone have this same setup? Any issues?
Thanks
I have an MKi9200 that I intend to hook up to my very basic e36 BMW stereo to keep it OEM.
As I understand it, if you have a line in it is possible to use the car's amp rather than the appalling Parrot one. Unfortunately I don't have a line in so my options are limited.
It's pretty complicated though IMHO. There is a forum on the parrot website in which a few installers comment so might be worth asking a question there...
As I understand it, if you have a line in it is possible to use the car's amp rather than the appalling Parrot one. Unfortunately I don't have a line in so my options are limited.
It's pretty complicated though IMHO. There is a forum on the parrot website in which a few installers comment so might be worth asking a question there...
The Parrot has its own little amp, when you play anything through it you will be going via this, even if you take a line out from the parrot it has still gone through the amp and then goes through its own hi to lo level convertor.
The CDR-24 doesn't even have an aux as standard does it?
Regardless, either way, using a Parrot for any type of music is useless imho, it sounds terrible.
What are you wanting to achieve?
The CDR-24 doesn't even have an aux as standard does it?
Regardless, either way, using a Parrot for any type of music is useless imho, it sounds terrible.
What are you wanting to achieve?
Well, essentially I am just looking to achieve MP3 playback via the stock CDR-24 stereo. Specifically, from my iPhone 5s. I want to keep the Bose amp and speakers in place. I'm not really interested in an FM broadcaster, as I've tried these before and have frankly found them pretty naff.
It would be nice if I can get hands free bluetooth as well, although this is not a priority as I have already purchased a Parrot Minikit Neo, which seems to do the job.
I have been toying with the Dension Gateway 500 Lite, but it seems like by the time I pay a Porsche dealer to unlock the CD changer option (been quoted £110 + VAT), I could install a more complete solution (such as the Parrot).
I'm not looking to spend a lot of money - essentially, the cheapest way of getting decent quality sound from my iPhone. If I can get bluetooth hands free as well, then that is a nice bonus. To put this in perspective, in my last car (Vauxhall Astra), I used a 99p aux cable from eBay to jack my iPhone straight into the factory stereo.
A far stretch from a 99p cable in Porsche territory it would appear!
I have been quoted the following options:
Installing a Parrot, which will work with the Bose amp: £465
Installing a Dension Gateway 500 Lite: £299 (not including unlocking the Porsche multi changer)
Installing a Pioneer head unit: £675 (for this pioneer head unit: http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...
However, I'm getting conflicting information from different installers about what will/won't work. I know it's fiddly, so suspect different installers are just familiar with different aspects.
Welcome any feedback. Disappointing that the sound quality of the Parrot may not be great.
Essentially, the Parrot was looking like the best option because it's not a million miles from the Dension, and would give me a decent UI etc.
The Pioneer head unit may be another option, but is a bit more than I wanted to spend to be honest. But then, I only wanted to spend 99p, so... :-)
It would be nice if I can get hands free bluetooth as well, although this is not a priority as I have already purchased a Parrot Minikit Neo, which seems to do the job.
I have been toying with the Dension Gateway 500 Lite, but it seems like by the time I pay a Porsche dealer to unlock the CD changer option (been quoted £110 + VAT), I could install a more complete solution (such as the Parrot).
I'm not looking to spend a lot of money - essentially, the cheapest way of getting decent quality sound from my iPhone. If I can get bluetooth hands free as well, then that is a nice bonus. To put this in perspective, in my last car (Vauxhall Astra), I used a 99p aux cable from eBay to jack my iPhone straight into the factory stereo.
A far stretch from a 99p cable in Porsche territory it would appear!
I have been quoted the following options:
Installing a Parrot, which will work with the Bose amp: £465
Installing a Dension Gateway 500 Lite: £299 (not including unlocking the Porsche multi changer)
Installing a Pioneer head unit: £675 (for this pioneer head unit: http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...
However, I'm getting conflicting information from different installers about what will/won't work. I know it's fiddly, so suspect different installers are just familiar with different aspects.
Welcome any feedback. Disappointing that the sound quality of the Parrot may not be great.
Essentially, the Parrot was looking like the best option because it's not a million miles from the Dension, and would give me a decent UI etc.
The Pioneer head unit may be another option, but is a bit more than I wanted to spend to be honest. But then, I only wanted to spend 99p, so... :-)
Hi
It depends also, what kind of functionality you expect from the head unit. As I mentioned in your other post, I've taken out a PCM 2.1 and replaced with another head unit. I did this because even the PCM is limited in terms of its ability to display MP3 text info. Also, limited FULL STOP !
As gizlaroc asks, it depends what you're trying to achieve. I've had a CDR24 in a previous car and the display (I think) is only 2 lines isn't it? That's not going to give you very much track info, especially if you're navigating up and down through folders on a USB stick or playlists on an iPod.
Out of interest, where does the other £325 go with the Halfords unit? You're going to need an analogue to digital converter to talk to your Bose amp and I don't think it's going to cover it.
It depends also, what kind of functionality you expect from the head unit. As I mentioned in your other post, I've taken out a PCM 2.1 and replaced with another head unit. I did this because even the PCM is limited in terms of its ability to display MP3 text info. Also, limited FULL STOP !
As gizlaroc asks, it depends what you're trying to achieve. I've had a CDR24 in a previous car and the display (I think) is only 2 lines isn't it? That's not going to give you very much track info, especially if you're navigating up and down through folders on a USB stick or playlists on an iPod.
Out of interest, where does the other £325 go with the Halfords unit? You're going to need an analogue to digital converter to talk to your Bose amp and I don't think it's going to cover it.
After weighing up the options, I may just go with the new head unit.
Here's what the installer said:
"To install this you will require the Bose Amplifier Adaptor, Double Din Fascia and Ariel Adaptor. The additional parts total £235.00. We will match the Halfords price in the link. However we won’t use the cheap DAB Ariel pictured, we will use the Original Pioneer DAB Antenna. Installation is charged @ £75.00 total £675.00."
Not sure if they are charging me extra for the "good aerial". If they are, I will get that knocked off because I never use the radio anyway.
Does that sound reasonable?
I think if I go with the Dension or parrot, I'm going to end up spending £400 odd on a solution which is pretty lame.
For an extra £300, I may as well spring for the decent head unit.
Here's what the installer said:
"To install this you will require the Bose Amplifier Adaptor, Double Din Fascia and Ariel Adaptor. The additional parts total £235.00. We will match the Halfords price in the link. However we won’t use the cheap DAB Ariel pictured, we will use the Original Pioneer DAB Antenna. Installation is charged @ £75.00 total £675.00."
Not sure if they are charging me extra for the "good aerial". If they are, I will get that knocked off because I never use the radio anyway.
Does that sound reasonable?
I think if I go with the Dension or parrot, I'm going to end up spending £400 odd on a solution which is pretty lame.
For an extra £300, I may as well spring for the decent head unit.
Don't know if you've looked, but boxa.net had loads of this sort of info when I was thinking about this in my 987.1. Personally, if warranty isn't a concern, I'd consider a new head unit - this is the expensive option. Somebody here, with a 987.2 I think, spent a good chunk of cash on the ICE - literally starting from the ground up. It looked very impressive, but was several grand's worth. Can't remember who though, sadly.
I think your installer doesn't realise what you have in your car.
I would be very surprised if you can get a line level to fibre optic converter along with steering wheel controls and double din fascia kit for £235.
The unit you need it this....MOST HUR 997
Retails for around £450.
If it were me I would consider removing the bose amp and putting in a cheapish Alpine or Pioneer Class D and one of the adapters that makes life a little easier....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aftermarket-Radio-Double...
Then add a double dine unit.
My choice would be the Alpine units, they look more subtle graphic wise, have far more options for time alignment, decent EQ and nice touches like light sensor on them so they dim with the cabin.
I had the X3500DAB and I didn't get on with it, graphics looked tacky, was far too bright in the early evening and too dark in the early morning and overall a bit of a let down. And I love Pioneer car audio too.
I have an Alpine W925r, it is very, very good, they do one without nav....
http://www.alpine.co.uk/p/Products/mobile-media-st...
But no DAB on it, you have to add on their £120 box.
Hearing some good things about this Kenwood, and all the latest Kenwood range, if DAB is essential?
http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/kenwood-ddx-4025da...
I think you can add an aux input to the CDR-24, have a search, think it had to go off to Becker to be done, but must be info out there?
I would be very surprised if you can get a line level to fibre optic converter along with steering wheel controls and double din fascia kit for £235.
The unit you need it this....MOST HUR 997
Retails for around £450.
If it were me I would consider removing the bose amp and putting in a cheapish Alpine or Pioneer Class D and one of the adapters that makes life a little easier....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aftermarket-Radio-Double...
Then add a double dine unit.
My choice would be the Alpine units, they look more subtle graphic wise, have far more options for time alignment, decent EQ and nice touches like light sensor on them so they dim with the cabin.
I had the X3500DAB and I didn't get on with it, graphics looked tacky, was far too bright in the early evening and too dark in the early morning and overall a bit of a let down. And I love Pioneer car audio too.
I have an Alpine W925r, it is very, very good, they do one without nav....
http://www.alpine.co.uk/p/Products/mobile-media-st...
But no DAB on it, you have to add on their £120 box.
Hearing some good things about this Kenwood, and all the latest Kenwood range, if DAB is essential?
http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/kenwood-ddx-4025da...
I think you can add an aux input to the CDR-24, have a search, think it had to go off to Becker to be done, but must be info out there?
Thanks for the heads up on the pioneer. I have to admit, I do think the pioneer looks a bit naff, but the features looked impressive.
This alpine unit actually looks much nicer:
http://caraudiosecurity.com/ive-w530bt-6-1-motoris...
Think I may see about that instead.
On your comment about the steering controls, I don't need those as I have no buttons on the wheel. Still, I am a bit worried that the fitters do not understand the full complexity of the install.
If I can get that alpine unit installed for under £700 then I think I'll go for it. Job done!
This alpine unit actually looks much nicer:
http://caraudiosecurity.com/ive-w530bt-6-1-motoris...
Think I may see about that instead.
On your comment about the steering controls, I don't need those as I have no buttons on the wheel. Still, I am a bit worried that the fitters do not understand the full complexity of the install.
If I can get that alpine unit installed for under £700 then I think I'll go for it. Job done!
Go for this one....
http://caraudiosecurity.com/ive-w535bt-6-1-motoris...
Have a search round as it was £329 somewhere.
Why not order the kit and do it yoruself?
It is a pretty easy install, and if you don't fancy tackling it just ask your installer to use the kit and charge you for the head unit, amp and install costs?
http://caraudiosecurity.com/ive-w535bt-6-1-motoris...
Have a search round as it was £329 somewhere.
Why not order the kit and do it yoruself?
It is a pretty easy install, and if you don't fancy tackling it just ask your installer to use the kit and charge you for the head unit, amp and install costs?
Better dacs, better sound tuning, timealignment which is superb!
Proper 9 band EQ which can get the stock speakers sounding great.
Better UI and graphics, light sensor for auto dimming the screen etc.
This is the nav version in my ML, the top and bottom banner/buttons disappear after a few seconds for a really cleam, oem looking display.......
Just a much nicer unit all round.
Proper 9 band EQ which can get the stock speakers sounding great.
Better UI and graphics, light sensor for auto dimming the screen etc.
This is the nav version in my ML, the top and bottom banner/buttons disappear after a few seconds for a really cleam, oem looking display.......
Just a much nicer unit all round.
That unit seems good for the price. I fitted the MOST-HUR 997 to deal with the digital Bose, which may be an improvement over the standard audio, but still leaves you wanting more.
As you can see, it's a bit pricey, but still better than throwing out the amp. You can also easily reverse the setup if you need-to at a later date.
As you can see, it's a bit pricey, but still better than throwing out the amp. You can also easily reverse the setup if you need-to at a later date.
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