The fat kid on steroids...
The fat kid on steroids...
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NotTim

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15 posts

144 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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Couple of buddies of mine have signed up here recently, one of whom even decided to put a thread up which seems to of had an interesting reception. So i thought i'd see how the average PH'er would react to my weapon of choice...

So, i present for your consideration, my "fat kid on steroids".....also known as a performance-orientated diesel....

A 2002 Volkswagen Bora ST PD130 :-)





Edited by NotTim on Wednesday 18th June 23:26

DaveH23

3,353 posts

196 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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Well the wheels are somewhat subjective but some more info on the power orientated bit might make up for those horrible slippers it has on.

Codswallop

5,258 posts

220 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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I oddly like that. Then again, I tend to like seeing a bit of diversity on our otherwise dull roads.

btdk5

1,862 posts

216 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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I like it.

Give us some more detail.

Mastodon2

14,279 posts

191 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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Oh one of these "fast" dervs. What do the yanks call this again, "Rolling it up the coal hole" or something?

Baryonyx

18,257 posts

185 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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The front end has some great scratches on it there. Snag it on something at the local shopping precinct car park?

NotTim

Original Poster:

15 posts

144 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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DaveH23 said:
Well the wheels are somewhat subjective but some more info on the power power orientated bit might make up for those horrible slippers it has on.
I like how you started with subjective, then went to full-on horrible! :-p

Codswallop said:
I oddly like that. Then again, I tend to like seeing a bit of diversity on our otherwise dull roads.
Cheers bud :-)

As it stands, the engine setup is as follows:

1.9L Pumpe Düse 8V Engine
Firad +50% injectors
Newmans Fast Road Cam
ARL/PD150 head gasket & head bolts
Bone-stock ASZ bottom end (just ticked over 152,000 miles)
Garrett GTB2260VK vac-converted by Darkside Developments
Darkside Developments Tubular Manifold
Allard FMIC & Hard Pipes
OEM VW "ERF" 6 Speed Gearbox with a Peloquin LSD
Helix Motorsports Single Mass Flywheel & Fast Road Clutchpack

On the running-gear front:

AP Racing Coilovers (height adjustable, no rebound etc)
Whiteline 24mm Adjustable ARBs front and rear
Powerflex'd everything
OEM 312mm front and rear calipers, with Mintex dimpled & grooved discs & pads front & rear
S3/R32 Quick Rack

Est (and it truly is estimated at the moment) power at the moment is around the 250hp & 380-400lb-ft of torque. I'm doing the tuning myself, so it's a rather slow process as it's my first time mapping a GTB'd PD engine.

NotTim

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15 posts

144 months

Wednesday 18th June 2014
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Baryonyx said:
The front end has some great scratches on it there. Snag it on something at the local shopping precinct car park?
Its a combination of a high-miler, and being more interested in the performance than the overall quality of the paintwork and panels for the time being. Not that that stopped me from putting a Golf nose on a Bora (although i prefer the look of the Golf nose, and the headlights are FAR better)

Mastodon2 said:
Oh one of these "fast" dervs. What do the yanks call this again, "Rolling it up the coal hole" or something?
I think "fast" is a pretty subjective term. And the term you're looking for is "Roll Coal" :-)


Edited by NotTim on Wednesday 18th June 23:47

vx220

2,723 posts

260 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Not the golf front!?

How do you find the single mass flywheel?

matrignano

4,680 posts

236 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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You can get hubcabs with VW logos on those TT wheels, you know

ajb85

1,124 posts

168 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Don't know much about what those performance mods mean. Appearance wise, you could have left it standard then it would have been a true 'sleeper' and taken a few people by surprise, whereas those wheels make it about as subtle as a thumb in the eye! I'm not knocking it though... it looks very old school 1990s. I remember people used to give the same treatment to the Jetta 20 years ago, a strange choice really (a pretty standard looking 3 box saloon!) but they had huge appeal for the Max Power lot just when VW, as a brand, was coming into its own.

NotTim

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15 posts

144 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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matrignano said:
You can get hubcabs with VW logos on those TT wheels, you know
I do indeed. However, i bought these wheels (in silver mind) for all of £20. I needed something to get off my winter rubber on the 16" steels i keep as spares. Beyond the £20 paint job (which i did for a laugh, i wanted something other than the usual silver or black), i'm not really prepared to spend much on them for the time being.

vx220 said:
Not the golf front!?

How do you find the single mass flywheel?
Yup, Golf nose is a straight bolt-on job, even for the headlights etc. The SMF is apocalyptic at idle (the helix is well known as one of the loudest in the derv tuning community), but the moment you're over 1000 rpm, it goes pretty silent.

ajb85 said:
Don't know much about what those performance mods mean. Appearance wise, you could have left it standard then it would have been a true 'sleeper' and taken a few people by surprise, whereas those wheels make it about as subtle as a thumb in the eye! I'm not knocking it though... it looks very old school 1990s. I remember people used to give the same treatment to the Jetta 20 years ago, a strange choice really (a pretty standard looking 3 box saloon!) but they had huge appeal for the Max Power lot just when VW, as a brand, was coming into its own.
It's a fair point about the whole sleeper aspect. Infact whilst i was in France a month or so back, i was still rocking my steelies & winter rubber, and had a lot of fun with the locals...



But i felt i needed to do something slightly silly just to tide me over until i can get something nicer on the wheel front.

As an example, here's how it looked a few months back before i suddenly found myself in a position where i needed to liquidate funds to pay for more performance parts...




ajb85

1,124 posts

168 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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I like the BBS wheels! Can you not stick them back on and paint it silver?
Always liked Boras in fairness, I was quite tempted by a V5 a few years ago.

NotTim

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15 posts

144 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Had to sell the RSii803s to fund turbo parts :-(

jimbop1

2,441 posts

230 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Is that you Tim?

vx220

2,723 posts

260 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Cheers for info on the SMF

I think (as a Bora owner) the optimum for this shape is a Bora front on a Golf estate?

But I love the Bora shape, shame it's dull to drive. I needed the boot, only reason I got one!

johnny fotze

394 posts

151 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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ajb85 said:
Don't know much about what those performance mods mean. Appearance wise, you could have left it standard then it would have been a true 'sleeper' and taken a few people by surprise, whereas those wheels make it about as subtle as a thumb in the eye! I'm not knocking it though... it looks very old school 1990s. I remember people used to give the same treatment to the Jetta 20 years ago, a strange choice really (a pretty standard looking 3 box saloon!) but they had huge appeal for the Max Power lot just when VW, as a brand, was coming into its own.
IIRC the appeal of the Jetta to the max power proto chavs was the gearbox, which meant the Jetta would take off quicker than the equivalent golf. It was also significantly cheaper to buy and insure. A Jetta box in a golf gti was a not uncommon modification.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

144 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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jimbop1 said:
Is that you Tim?
Clearly it is NotTim!

NotTim

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144 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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xjay1337 said:
Clearly it is NotTim!
NotJay got the idea!

R26Andy

404 posts

187 months

Thursday 19th June 2014
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Mastodon2 said:
"Rolling it up the coal hole" or something?
I`m pretty sure you can get arrested for that in some countries