Has hollywood run out of ideas?
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What is it with recent movie releases, in that much of the stuff being churned out of the states are from comics of years ago?
Now that CGI and the speed and which it can be turned around has 'improved', all we seem to be getting are excuses in which to use it.
We just seem to be getting ever more unrealistic ways in which to create big explosions at various levels of time flow.
So this year we are getting something called "Superman vs Batman"....WTF.
If the last attempt at a superman movie was anything to go by (which in itself might as well have been just another Transformers attempt), then this new "vs" movie is going to be just dire.
Hollywood at the moment just seems to be targetting the 14-17 year olds with their efforts, there doesn't seem to be much out there for the 25-35 year old for example. The type of demogrphic that have hopefully moved away from silly explosions that they once viewed as what defined a movie.
Your thoughts?
Now that CGI and the speed and which it can be turned around has 'improved', all we seem to be getting are excuses in which to use it.
We just seem to be getting ever more unrealistic ways in which to create big explosions at various levels of time flow.
So this year we are getting something called "Superman vs Batman"....WTF.
If the last attempt at a superman movie was anything to go by (which in itself might as well have been just another Transformers attempt), then this new "vs" movie is going to be just dire.
Hollywood at the moment just seems to be targetting the 14-17 year olds with their efforts, there doesn't seem to be much out there for the 25-35 year old for example. The type of demogrphic that have hopefully moved away from silly explosions that they once viewed as what defined a movie.
Your thoughts?
There are only seven stories. In the end you run out of permutations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven_Basic_Plots
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven_Basic_Plots
haha, never seen that before, but looks about right.
I'd say another to add to the dire efforts will be this 'Guardians of the Galaxy'.....with what looks like a talking tree and a talking ferret.
From that alone this has to be targeted at 14-15 year olds that still believe in Santa Clause?
Totally reliant on CGI to produce yet another comic story that should have stayed in the 80's (or 70's or whenever it was).
I'm guessing in the not too distant future we can look forwards to title such as :
Wonder Woman vs The talking phone box
Batman vs A flock of radioactive talking geese
He Man vs Colmubo's Dog
Superman vs Last week's road kill (Rabbit edition)
etc. etc.
Not to mention the endless sequels of each story line that they refuse to end with any satisfaction.
The last CGI movie that I really enjoyed was Gravity, but these movies seem to be very few and far between.
I'd say another to add to the dire efforts will be this 'Guardians of the Galaxy'.....with what looks like a talking tree and a talking ferret.
From that alone this has to be targeted at 14-15 year olds that still believe in Santa Clause?
Totally reliant on CGI to produce yet another comic story that should have stayed in the 80's (or 70's or whenever it was).
I'm guessing in the not too distant future we can look forwards to title such as :
Wonder Woman vs The talking phone box
Batman vs A flock of radioactive talking geese
He Man vs Colmubo's Dog
Superman vs Last week's road kill (Rabbit edition)
etc. etc.
Not to mention the endless sequels of each story line that they refuse to end with any satisfaction.
The last CGI movie that I really enjoyed was Gravity, but these movies seem to be very few and far between.
AA999 said:
So this year we are getting something called "Superman vs Batman"....WTF.
....and wonder Woman in another modern generic dark (dirty looking) costume - http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dc/31466/first-pic...If people keep paying to see crap they will continue making it.
FourWheelDrift said:
If people keep paying to see crap they will continue making it.
Bingo. They don't need to try anything original because people keep paying to see the same old s
te over and over. As soon as a formula gets a good return, it'll be copied relentlessly until it stops making money. It's a system based almost entirely on economics, rather than art, and economics doesn't have a lot of scope for imagination.
There's still original movies out there, they just don't seem to get much press, or into the cinemas at all. I agree that movies these days in general seem to be going stale, Hollywood seriously needs to start making more books into films, there's a wealth of stories out there to be tapped into that would cover all genres and niches.
Courtesy of Cracked,
They are even recycling the SFX...
http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_992_21-shocking...
They are even recycling the SFX...
http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_992_21-shocking...
Saw Raiders of the Lost Ark last night at the open air Luna Cinema.
What struck me has been said many times before....although the storyline falls easily in to the first category mentioned above, the key difference between it and the tosh we get nowadays is the live action. The stunts and effects are all real and simply come across as more credible (?) plus it is/was a real dynamic talent/skill on display, as opposed to simply CGing anything remotely "difficult", so the danger/risk/spectacle is more palpable.
The scene where Indy climbs down the front of the truck carrying the Ark, passes underneath and then climbs up the back again is probably the best example of this. All live action (and yeah, copied from many a Western). Granted a lot of 80s Spielberg stock uses miniatures and models, but even these display the actual talent of a model maker.
Ditto the large crowd scenes (the chase/fight in the Cairo market where Indy shoots the swordsman) - another good example of where CGI isn't a good thing. Coordinating (real) large crowds to all act and contribute to a scene takes a director with real leadership and the ability to inspire and that comes across in the smallest detail of a scene.
Now all they need is a mate with a Mac.
Now, I know someone will come along and say there's just as much talent in producing a CG image, but for me it's just not in the a same league as a bloke in a hat being chased down a hill by a massive boulder, fending off thousands of snakes in an underground burial chamber or fighting a big German bloke on top of a moving aircraft whilst it's on fire with the girl of the piece trapped inside.....
There's no action like live action.
What struck me has been said many times before....although the storyline falls easily in to the first category mentioned above, the key difference between it and the tosh we get nowadays is the live action. The stunts and effects are all real and simply come across as more credible (?) plus it is/was a real dynamic talent/skill on display, as opposed to simply CGing anything remotely "difficult", so the danger/risk/spectacle is more palpable.
The scene where Indy climbs down the front of the truck carrying the Ark, passes underneath and then climbs up the back again is probably the best example of this. All live action (and yeah, copied from many a Western). Granted a lot of 80s Spielberg stock uses miniatures and models, but even these display the actual talent of a model maker.
Ditto the large crowd scenes (the chase/fight in the Cairo market where Indy shoots the swordsman) - another good example of where CGI isn't a good thing. Coordinating (real) large crowds to all act and contribute to a scene takes a director with real leadership and the ability to inspire and that comes across in the smallest detail of a scene.
Now all they need is a mate with a Mac.
Now, I know someone will come along and say there's just as much talent in producing a CG image, but for me it's just not in the a same league as a bloke in a hat being chased down a hill by a massive boulder, fending off thousands of snakes in an underground burial chamber or fighting a big German bloke on top of a moving aircraft whilst it's on fire with the girl of the piece trapped inside.....
There's no action like live action.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 1st August 09:17
I see they've made a movie of the Equalizer with Denzel Washington now. I've not seen any trailers or anything and Denzel is s a great actor but the pessimist in me thinks this will be an action thriller like many others, trading on the success of a TV show. I liked the fact the TV series featured an older, chubby, well spoken English guy as the hero. Not someone you'd expect to take on gangsters.
I'm just waiting for the Fall Guy movie where they use CGI instead of stunt men or the Magnum P.I. movie with Chanum Tatum hooning in an Enzo.
I'm just waiting for the Fall Guy movie where they use CGI instead of stunt men or the Magnum P.I. movie with Chanum Tatum hooning in an Enzo.
toon10 said:
I see they've made a movie of the Equalizer with Denzel Washington now. I've not seen any trailers or anything and Denzel is s a great actor but the pessimist in me thinks this will be an action thriller like many others, trading on the success of a TV show. I liked the fact the TV series featured an older, chubby, well spoken English guy as the hero. Not someone you'd expect to take on gangsters.
I'm just waiting for the Fall Guy movie where they use CGI instead of stunt men or the Magnum P.I. movie with Chanum Tatum hooning in an Enzo.
Trailer was In here. The only thing it bears a resemblance to equaliser is the title.I'm just waiting for the Fall Guy movie where they use CGI instead of stunt men or the Magnum P.I. movie with Chanum Tatum hooning in an Enzo.
Looks like taken with densel instead. Standard revenge against bad guys flick with some added s
te about timing his attacks to show how badass he is.Justin Cyder said:
There are only seven stories. In the end you run out of permutations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven_Basic_Plots
bhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven_Basic_Plots
ks. There are at least 10: Bruce willis in a vest
Jackie chan is there, asses are kicked.
Arnie is there, s
t blows up.I'm sure there are more...
TheEnd said:
Courtesy of Cracked,
They are even recycling the SFX...
http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_992_21-shocking...
That really is taking the p*** isn't it?!! "Hey audience! Come and pay to see the same stuff!"...They are even recycling the SFX...
http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_992_21-shocking...
Not an expert in film distribution by any stretch but it has always seemed to be the case that lots of films are made, relatively few get picked up for major distribution. Its more "what sh** sells this year? I'll have that...". Everything else I guess goes to limited cinema release/video.
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