Caught for speeding Germany

[jvr]

Got the letter today 2 months after the offence
I didnt think info was exchanged between here and Germany, obviously wrong.

Doing 61kph in a 50 and a caution fine of 25 euros.

Letter and 3 photos(car,face and no plate)

Going back there next year, is it best just pay up and move on?
Thoughts

Cheers

P

[DB77]

It is only 25 Euros. Is it worth spending any time worrying about it? Just pay it and forget about it.

[cmaguire]

Exactly, I'm surprised you're even asking about £20.
The admin charges are probably near enough the same.

If they are bothering for 25 Euros it looks like there will be a lot more of this then.

[TooMany2cvs]

jvr said:

I didnt think info was exchanged between here and Germany, obviously wrong.

Came into force this May.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[agtlaw]

jvr said:

Got the letter today 2 months after the offence
I didnt think info was exchanged between here and Germany, obviously wrong.

Doing 61kph in a 50 and a caution fine of 25 euros.

Letter and 3 photos(car,face and no plate)

Going back there next year, is it best just pay up and move on?
Thoughts

Cheers

P

Another Polizeipräsidium Rheinpfalz case?

Edited by agtlaw on Saturday 4th November 19:35

[CaptainMorgan]

Yeah, for £25 I'd pay it just to save the worry, especially if returning. I best be careful in future, normally do a few trips over to Germany/France/Italy each year, didn't realise this was happening until now. I'm going later this month but in a ex London black cab so should be safe from speeding in that

[jvr]

agtlaw said:

Another Polizeipräsidium Rheinpflalz case?

Yep
In Roetgen next to Belgium border

[paul.deitch]

Well if you don't pay the bill will get bigger and then eventually result in a prosecution in your absence just like anywhere else. In the last two months I have managed to accumulate letters from France, Austria and Italy. Just pay them and forget them. Well I was in a hurry! No the reality is that I was just over the 50 km/hour limit in the cities. Very low tolerances.

[Mike335i]

I'd just pay up, think of it like a speed tax. I know some on the continent who treat speeding fines that way, just put some money aside every month to pay the fines haha

[Sheepshanks]

paul.deitch said:

No the reality is that I was just over the 50 km/hour limit in the cities. Very low tolerances.

I can't remember the exact numbers but a German colleague got banned for a month for two really minor speeding infringements within a few weeks of each other.

[cmaguire]

Sheepshanks said:

paul.deitch said:

No the reality is that I was just over the 50 km/hour limit in the cities. Very low tolerances.

I can't remember the exact numbers but a German colleague got banned for a month for two really minor speeding infringements within a few weeks of each other.

Sounds a bit unlikely.
Tends to be graduated fines in Germany, the whole points on your licence thing isn't so prevalent.

[Sheepshanks]

cmaguire said:

Sheepshanks said:

paul.deitch said:

No the reality is that I was just over the 50 km/hour limit in the cities. Very low tolerances.

I can't remember the exact numbers but a German colleague got banned for a month for two really minor speeding infringements within a few weeks of each other.

Sounds a bit unlikely.
Tends to be graduated fines in Germany, the whole points on your licence thing isn't so prevalent.

Well, I'm confident he was banned, but perhaps he understated his offences.

[paul.deitch]

The Germans are so organised that there is an easy to understand table of fines and bans.
If you get a repeat offence in or outside a city over 26km/h (within the 3 year limit) then you will get a 1 month ban.
Higher speeds result in more pain.
Link is here if anyone wants to check.
https://blitzerkanzlei.de/bussgeldkatalog/bussgeld...

Speeding in the city

Zu schnell Fine Euros Punkte Ban Time Months
bis 10 km/h 15  –  –
11-15 km/h 25  –  –
16-20 km/h 35  –  –
21-25 km/h 80 1 –
26-30 km/h 100 1 (Im Wiederholungsfall)
31-40 km/h 160 2 1
41-50 km/h 200 2 1
51-60 km/h 280 2 2
61-70 km/h 480 2 3
über 70 km/h 680 2 3

Speeding outside the city

Zu schnell Bußgeld Punkte Fahrverbot
bis 10 km/h 10  – –
11-15 km/h 20  –  –
16-20 km/h 30  –  –
21-25 km/h 70 1  –
26-30 km/h 80 1 (Im Wiederholungsfall)
31-40 km/h 120 1 (Im Wiederholungsfall)
41-50 km/h 160 2 1
51-60 km/h 240 2 1
61-70 km/h 440 2 2
über 70 km/h 600 2 3
- sorry that I can't get the tabulation correct but I am sure that you can work it out.
So it is quite believable that his mate got banned for a month.
Slopes away from keyboard......................... yes it happened to me a couple of years ago.

[jvr]

It seems now that continental Europe is worse than the UK

[Rewe]

paul.deitch said:

So it is quite believable that his mate got banned for a month.

Just curious now.......if a UK driver with a UK driving license met the criteria for a ban in Germany because they had been speeding in Germany and needed to drive in Germany during the period that the ban should be in place, what would happen when he/she arrived at the border?

[paul.deitch]

Nothing probably! However if they ran a check on the reg or licence then you would be treated as anybody else caught driving while banned. Licence physically removed from your possession, to be given back at the end of the ban period, likely notice of prosecution and if convicted a fine typically one months income (first offence!) and up to a one year ban.

[jvr]

It beggars though we can't fine continentals for speeding here
There must be a reason

O and I've paid my fine today

P

[SantaBarbara]

Rewe said:

Just curious now.......if a UK driver with a UK driving license met the criteria for a ban in Germany because they had been speeding in Germany and needed to drive in Germany during the period that the ban should be in place, what would happen when he/she arrived at the border?

Depends whether they had a UK licence or a German licence perhaps.

[SS2.]

jvr said:

It beggars though we can't fine continentals for speeding here..

We can.

[TooMany2cvs]

SS2. said:

jvr said:

It beggars though we can't fine continentals for speeding here..

We can.

...and have been able to for longer than "they" have been able to fine "us", because the UK lagged as late as possible in signing up to the information exchange schemes.