Peugeot Sport 208 GTI: PH Fleet
How about another GTI Goodwood Peugeot? This one is great on track...
My intention for this article was to tell you more about what it's like on the road, but that's going to have to wait, as we took it out on our track day at Goodwood before Christmas. And it was bloody brilliant. Amazingly for the end of December we had a dry day, but a treacherously icy track. It wasn't looking great, but at 10:30 the sun had melted most of the ice and the track was open.
It really does like to dance around, but in an enjoyable and predictable way, not a 'which way is it going to chuck me off' way. This inherent mobility is assisted by the grip from thePilot Super Sports, which gave plenty of confidence even before the track had fully thawed out. I'll probably bang on about this a lot, but the shining star in this car for me is the Torsen limited-slip differential. I was using third to enter Lavant, building acceleration and feeling that diff pull me through the right-hander before being projected down the straight. There was a balance to find between accelerating through a corner to get the diff to bite and the classic front-wheel drive understeer, but it came quite easily.
We were lucky to have a new Honda Civic Type R with us on the day too. While I'm not going to directly compare two cars that are quite different in performance, price and offering, the Civic didn't leave the 208 feeling as if it were lacking. There was no surprise, however, to find the Honda significantly faster and more composed on track. It was so planted, confidence inspiring and more forgiving, yet I felt like it still had more to give. On the other hand in the Peugeot, I felt like a hero wringing each and every one of its 208 horsepower out of the engine, demanding more finesse and skill than the Honda through the corners and under braking. The Civic was undoubtedly the better car to drive, but the 208 stole the show for raw entertainment.
FACT SHEET
Car: 2017 Peugeot 208 GTI by Peugeot Sport
Run by: Ben
On fleet since: November 2017
Mileage: 2,816 (delivered on 139)
List price new: £23,550 (As tested £24,250 comprising £250 for Peugeot Connect SOS & Assistance, £250 for Active City Brake and £200 for Reversing Camera)
Last month at a glance: Good at Goodwood? It's great!
Previous reports:
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Track photos: Chris Teagles
That said the new Fiesta doesn't do it for me so maybe the current 208 is a better buy?
The gearbox on the GTi had no problem, however, it had a long throw and quite a vague feel, pair this to a throttle response that was very flat and literally no induction or exhaust noise it fealt like I was driving a quick diesel rather than a hot hatchback.
I had a 206 GTi 180 back in the day and that was much better yet got slated in the mags.
I would love a drive in a PS GTi, however no one mentions the gearbox in the reviews, they still mention a poor throttle response mind.
can't be too difficult to get right can it!?
EDIT: oh and the worst sound system fitted to a car ever! dreadful!
The gearbox on the GTi had no problem, however, it had a long throw and quite a vague feel, pair this to a throttle response that was very flat and literally no induction or exhaust noise it fealt like I was driving a quick diesel rather than a hot hatchback.
I'll be addressing your concerns in my next update; simply too much to say about track antics this time around. All issues that can be fairly easily addressed thanks to the aftermarket though really!
All in all I'd recommend them. You can get 2015 facelifts with 208ps for £11k, a great car for the money.
In Prestige trim it's very well equipped and comfortable. The cabin is nicely trimmed and; as the say, a genuinely nice place to be. Handling is good (As opposed to near brilliant for the ST) and performance particularly mid range punch is strong.
On the minus side the steering lacks feel, the engine lacks character, the lights seem poor having come from a Cooper S with xenons and the exhaust note developes an unfortunately boomy loud drone at 70-80mph which kinda spoils what would have been a better than class average motorway cruiser.
As for the steering wheel and dials issues? I'd say it forces you to sit with your seat set slightly higher and steering wheel set slightly lower than I find is ideal. It's something you'll get used to then the steering wheel every other non-Peugeot you drive will feel HUUUUUUUGE!!! and slow reacting in comparison.
The gearbox on the GTi had no problem, however, it had a long throw and quite a vague feel, pair this to a throttle response that was very flat and literally no induction or exhaust noise it fealt like I was driving a quick diesel rather than a hot hatchback.
I had a 206 GTi 180 back in the day and that was much better yet got slated in the mags.
I would love a drive in a PS GTi, however no one mentions the gearbox in the reviews, they still mention a poor throttle response mind.
can't be too difficult to get right can it!?
EDIT: oh and the worst sound system fitted to a car ever! dreadful!
The 206 GTI 180 was a horrid car, it handled well but the gearbox wasn't nice and neither were the gear ratio's or the seating position/pedal position, it needed a 6 speed and that killed it by not having one (and the one I test drove was a brand new one).
I also have the first of the PS cars that they produced (and its not a 208 ), the LSD is fantastic, gearboxes can feel a little vague to start with but it seems to be a modern Peugeot trait, they loosen up and become more precise as time goes on.
Uprated brakes (Brembo) on the 208 GTi by PS help but I would opt for its bigger brother, the 308 GTI which is also a fun car, not that much more to buy and 65bhp better off
I chose the Pug for its subdued styling (am 52 and a bit embarrassed that I'm still scooting about in a hot hatch) nicely appointed and well equipped interior and the fact it's just that bit more compromised towards everyday use than a driver permanently driving the wheels off it.
I'm very much a horses for courses type of guy and understand why a car that works for me might not me touched by a barge pole by others.
I quite like the Renault Sport Clio but the lack of a manual gearbox option puts me off.
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