What to add to diesel to destroy an engine?

What to add to diesel to destroy an engine?

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anonymous-user

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56 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Can anyone tell me what can be added to diesel fuel to destroy an engine?

My understanding is that sugar and all those similar old fashioned 'pranks' don't work as they simply coagulate in the fuel filter and block them, meaning the engine stops though lack of fuel rather than catastrophic failure.

Suggestions please.

dave_s13

13,824 posts

271 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Why, who's upset you?

Jdjd1

179 posts

77 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Only the most widely available substance and possibly the cheapest.

Available from any tap


mcflurry

9,104 posts

255 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Petrol. Apparently hundreds of people missfuel frown

marksx

5,062 posts

192 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Jdjd1 said:
Only the most widely available substance and possibly the cheapest.

ill let you work the rest out
Do modern engines still have filters for said substance?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

56 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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dave_s13 said:
Why, who's upset you?
I have suffered some diesel theft from my business on a couple of occasions recently.

I am 99% sure I know who is carrying out the petty theft.

They will regret taking the next barrel.

Jdjd1

179 posts

77 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Water!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will bend all his rods valves gaskets the works.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

95 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Water

Sand would probably do it too, but it wouldn't be as easy

Ultra Sound Guy

28,672 posts

196 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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If it’s s nitro glycerin will do a good job!

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

56 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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FN2TypeR said:
Water

Sand would probably do it too, but it wouldn't be as easy
Wouldn't sand just get stopped by the fuel filter?

Jdjd1

179 posts

77 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Just remember a diesel runs on compression not a spark

So any fluid thats not going to detonate when compressed will **** the engine good and proper.

Tango13

8,533 posts

178 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Brake fluid

Designed not to compress so a Diesel really won't like it. Not sure if it will mix or the filter will stop it though.

WatchfulEye

500 posts

130 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Sodium silicate solution.

This was used in the US as part of their scrappage programme. It was added to oil, the engine started, and run for a couple of minutes at which point the engine would seize. I would imagine it would still wreak havoc if added to fuel.

Jonny_

4,149 posts

209 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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The American scrappage scheme a few years ago required engines of scrapped cars to be disabled, by filling the sump with sodium silicate. This stuff turned into a glasslike solid when heated, which quickly wrecked the moving parts of the engines and rendered them unusable.

No idea what it would do to an engine when added to diesel, but can't imagine the engine would last long...!

ETA: guy above had the same idea and typed faster than me... Great minds! beer

Evanivitch

20,565 posts

124 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Difficulty is finding something that won't be obvious when they steal the fuel. Might want to try some experimentation?

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

101 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Lord Marylebone said:
dave_s13 said:
Why, who's upset you?
I have suffered some diesel theft from my business on a couple of occasions recently.

I am 99% sure I know who is carrying out the petty theft.

They will regret taking the next barrel.
Is it red?

What about letting them use it but inform the plod?

dci

531 posts

143 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Petrol...

Mixed 25/75 should be enough to fk up any modern diesel fuel system and be undetectable. A small amount of petrol contamination certainly did a number on my brothers Renault DCI engine which required 4 new injectors and a fuel system flush.

The only issue you may have is one of your own guys picking the wrong barrel and filling one of your own vehicle with it.

Tango13

8,533 posts

178 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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https://www.kemet.co.uk/products/toolroom/lapping-...

Most fuel filters will stop a 5 micron particle so the two finest grades of diamond paste, 1 & 3 micron should do the job.

Just remember two things...

The best revenge is to live well and before setting out on revenge first dig two graves

/\ Just realised how contradictory the above advice is hehe

WatchfulEye

500 posts

130 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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An alternative solution which is less likely to result in accidentally destroying your own engines, might be to dye the fuel.

If you dye it bright blue or green, it might be less desirable to pilfer as it will be very obvious where it has come from.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GREEN-DIESEL-DYE-FUEL-T...

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

257 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Tango13 said:
Brake fluid

Designed not to compress so a Diesel really won't like it. Not sure if it will mix or the filter will stop it though.
Seems to be a bit of confusion on how a diesel engine work. Diesel isnt compressible either, but it does burn when its heated enough, as does brake fluid.