BMW Charge for Real-time Traffic Information (RTI)?
BMW Charge for Real-time Traffic Information (RTI)?
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GJOB

Original Poster:

419 posts

211 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Just received an email advising that I'll have to pay an annual fee for RTI - I've never been asked to pay for RTI in my other cars so this is news to me.

Does the mean that Mercedes, Land Rover (I know it's rubbish) etc don't have RTI or just don't charge for it?

Elliot2000

785 posts

194 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Is it over a year or three years old? I think it comes as part of bmw online subscription packages now

ian in lancs

3,843 posts

216 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Free for three years then you have to pay. Their connected drive site has the details but it’s confusing. For my wife’s 64 plate the core connected drive is lifetime free but RTTI is 40£ a year. For my 12 plate connected drive is 140yr and includes RTTI. The contact desk team are Abismal thr concierge team are awesome.

numtumfutunch

4,999 posts

156 months

Friday 27th April 2018
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Its rubbish in my opinion

Doesnt cover all roads and routing awful

Waze on my phone is orders of magnitude better

I paid for ProNav/RTTI on my current car and regret this heavily
Really wish Id gone for the upgraded hifi

Cheers

anonymous-user

72 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Elliot2000 said:
Is it over a year or three years old? I think it comes as part of bmw online subscription packages now

I believe it’s permanent now, once you’ve bought the car but until recently you did have to renew after 3 years.

It wasn’t worth it IMO.

There’re been lots of issues with the whole CD recently too.

keith333

374 posts

160 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Bought my 2012 X5 and the real time traffic information is still up to date and I haven't re-subscribed.

Somebody

1,490 posts

101 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Mines' free for 3 years and 2 months


rayyan171

1,298 posts

111 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Still getting this on our 2009 X5. Has BMW online, professional navigation etc. but we haven't subscribed to BMW Online, or BMW assist, or whatever is needed for RTI.

anonymous-user

72 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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keith333 said:
Bought my 2012 X5 and the real time traffic information is still up to date and I haven't re-subscribed.
Maybe some special deal. At that time it was certainly normal to just last 3 years. My 530 stopped after 3 years, I didn’t think it was worth the £100 odd they wanted to renew.

I considered getting a G30 and noticed it’s permanent with them.

jkh112

23,554 posts

176 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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GJOB said:
Does the mean that Mercedes, Land Rover (I know it's rubbish) etc don't have RTI or just don't charge for it?
My Mercedes came with TomTom traffic data free for the first 3years. I have had to pay something like £80 for another 3 year subscription.

anonymous-user

72 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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jkh112 said:
GJOB said:
Does the mean that Mercedes, Land Rover (I know it's rubbish) etc don't have RTI or just don't charge for it?
My Mercedes came with TomTom traffic data free for the first 3years. I have had to pay something like £80 for another 3 year subscription.
Our XF has it and IME it’s better than my 530 was. I understand it’ll be about £30 to renew after 3 years but that includes other app functionality. I assume that applies to LR too.

Never bothered with it on our SLK because we don’t do many long distance runs with it but I understand MB charge about £50 per year. They offer longer subscriptions at a discount.


Fox-

13,462 posts

264 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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There are two systems.

The most basic is traffic event information broadcast over FM - this is Traffic Message Channel (TMC). Most navigation systems can receive this and it free of charge to receive.

BMW RTTI is a second, more detailed system which receives data over a cellular connection and provides traffic flow info etc. It is this service which is chargeable once your 3 years subscription has run out.

Without paying for RTTI your system will drop back to TMC so you'll still get some traffic data, just not as detailed or as useful

GJOB

Original Poster:

419 posts

211 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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I've contacted the help desk and am awaiting a definitive response.... If it's the norm that RTI is chargeable for newer cars then I suppose that's just the way it is.

None of my older cars are charged and neither is Range Rover which is newer.

Fox-

13,462 posts

264 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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GJOB said:
I've contacted the help desk and am awaiting a definitive response.... If it's the norm that RTI is chargeable for newer cars then I suppose that's just the way it is.

None of my older cars are charged and neither is Range Rover which is newer.
Because your older cars and the Range Rover have TMC. This is free on BMW as well.

RTTI is free for 3 years then it's about 50 quid a year.

anonymous-user

72 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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rayyan171 said:
Still getting this on our 2009 X5. Has BMW online, professional navigation etc. but we haven't subscribed to BMW Online, or BMW assist, or whatever is needed for RTI.
BMW didn’t offer RTTI until 2011.

breadvan

2,099 posts

186 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Somebody said:
Mines' free for 3 years and 2 months

I'm getting this page following the registration of my 1 month old M3 but 5 days later and nothing's happening in the car, is this delay usual?

Somebody

1,490 posts

101 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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breadvan said:
I'm getting this page following the registration of my 1 month old M3 but 5 days later and nothing's happening in the car, is this delay usual?
Do you see the RTTI sign turning to yellow or red in your sat nav? I have the business nav and when selecting RTTI it lists traffic problem but not necessarily on route - e.g. most mornings it lists M1 MK to St Albans as congested.

GJOB

Original Poster:

419 posts

211 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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Reply from BMW:

"All BMW cars come ConnectedDrive Services for 3 years and 90 days. Once this comes to an end you’ll need to purchase ConnectedDrive Services again which is the core option which allows you to purchase additional services such as RTTI, Remote Services and Concierge.

From looking at the specification of your i8, I can see that your car comes with Professional Navigation option 609, this includes RTTI for 3 years. Now that it’s expired, you’ll need to purchase again through our ConnectedDrive Store.

RTTI: 1 month (£1), 5 months (£25) and 12 months (£40)"

That's that then....

anonymous-user

72 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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GJOB said:
Reply from BMW:

"All BMW cars come ConnectedDrive Services for 3 years and 90 days. Once this comes to an end you’ll need to purchase ConnectedDrive Services again which is the core option which allows you to purchase additional services such as RTTI, Remote Services and Concierge.

From looking at the specification of your i8, I can see that your car comes with Professional Navigation option 609, this includes RTTI for 3 years. Now that it’s expired, you’ll need to purchase again through our ConnectedDrive Store.

RTTI: 1 month (£1), 5 months (£25) and 12 months (£40)"

That's that then....
Can it be set up to renew every month at £1? That seems to be the cheapest way. .....

Fox-

13,462 posts

264 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2018
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REALIST123 said:
Can it be set up to renew every month at £1? That seems to be the cheapest way. .....
I believe the £1 thing is a 'trial' arrangement.