RE: Rover 825 Sterling: Shed of the Week

RE: Rover 825 Sterling: Shed of the Week

Friday 24th August 2018

Rover 825 Sterling: Shed of the Week

This 800 has already been rescued from banger status once - what chance a second good Samaritan?



Many of us now believe that the world has either gone mad or is rapidly heading in that direction. The languishing in PH Classifieds of this mint condition, single-owner Rover 825 Sterling with a shiny MOT until next April and apparently no rust would seem to confirm this, or at the very least suggest that more of us need to visit Specsavers.

With just 91,000 miles on the clock, this KV6-powered 2.5 Fastback five-door comes complete with the sort of fat paperwork file you'd expect to find in the glovebox of an obviously loved one-owner car. Why would you not take a chance on it, at £875 or less?

The Roy Axe-designed front-wheel drive 800 was launched in summer 1986, six months after Honda had released its Legend version. A Fastback model came out two years later, and two years after that the M16 petrol 2.0-litre fours were joined by a horrid 2.5 turbodiesel for the masochist market.

The top o' the range Sterling started off with a Honda-supplied 2.5-litre V6 that was panned at the time by road testers for its insipid midrange power. Things began looking up in 1988 when a rather better Honda 2.7 V6 pitched up, followed in short order by the Vitesse, a genuinely rapid exec.


Rover's 'R17' facelift of 1991 produced the more rounded body shape you're looking at and possibly secretly admiring here. In 1995, the Honda V6 was replaced by Rover's own 2.5 KV6, which was a good dynamic match for the reliable Honda unit but which - in the early days, at least - did suffer some of the head gasket problems made famous by the four-pot K series motors.

Before the money grabbers stepped in and spoiled everything, there was real talent on display in both chassis competence and paint finish. Our Shed's combo of Nightfire Red with uncreased grey moo is about as good as it gets. Clearly, no gigantic buttocks have ever been placed on the seats, which by the way are every bit as comfy as they look.

The generic downside of any late model KV6 automatic would be the flaky JATCO transmission. We also have to use the word 'apparently' in front of the phrase 'no rust' because it would be a minor miracle if any 21-year-old British car really was totally corrosion-free. Weak areas on the 800s included the sunroof surrounds and drain channels, rear arches and the bonnet front edge. Having said that, later models like this one were much better protected than the first 800s.

And never underestimate the power of men in cardigans. This car looks so good that you may well be lucky in both trans and bodywork departments. It demonstrates that true Rover-lovers, especially 'mature' ones, were 100% dedicated to the cause of keeping them up to snuff. Many would have had nothing else other than Rovers in their lives.


Give an R17 its head on an A-road and you might be surprised at what you can achieve. Even Clarkson described it as "a fine all-rounder". Mind you, that was when he was wearing a jacket and tie.

Okay, electrics were never that great on 800s, with immobilisers, ECUs and alarms misbehaving and sometimes the whole electrical system shutting down just when you didn't want it to, ie anytime. Aircons and boots leak, but other 800 issues weren't always as daunting as they first appeared. Wonky windows, for example, could sometimes be mended by nothing more high-tech than a soldering iron or a quick knuckle-rap in the right place.

This car is from the penultimate year of 800 manufacture. We're not counting 1999, as the line finished in January. In total, 317,306 new 800s were sold. That un-small number surely reflects the difficulty of resisting Rover salesmen, who were armed with slick sales techniques like the ones promoted in this training vid.

 

The last years of Rover were dogged by (largely self-inflicted) problems, but underneath all the nonsense was a hard core of engineering knowledge. There was very little wrong with the basic design of the drivetrains or the chassis components. It was just that final ha'porth of tar that was missing that would have given the cars the element of robustness required by the market.

In the years immediately following the end of the line, the 800 was generally roasted by all and sundry. More recently, it seems to be attracting warmer rather than heated views. The second and current owner of this one rescued it from a fate worse than death on the banger tracks. You could see why he would have done that.

You should never generalise about what sort of motoring a particular car might have experienced in its life, but it's entirely possible that this one's speedo needle has never dipped its toe into the phantom zone beyond 70mph. Wouldn't it be great to take it on a long jaunt to, say, eastern Europe, miles from civilisation or indeed Rover specialists, to see what it can do? No? Oh, ok, maybe you're right.

Shed once rescued a kids' furry dog-based pushcart from the tip because he felt sorry for it. He still has that pushcart. This is your chance to do something similar for this lovely old Rover.


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sc0tt

Original Poster:

18,040 posts

201 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Well done on the condition but it is as ugly as sin hehe

smileymikey

1,446 posts

226 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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I don't know why but I really rally want that car. Its expert level shedding

Deep Thought

35,814 posts

197 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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If shedding is buying a car and spending the absolute minimum on it until it ultimately has a failure that is beyond economic repair then scrap it, then it would be a shame to see that car go down that route.

Having said that, i'm sure it will be snapped up by an enthusiast...

Numeric

1,396 posts

151 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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I am a shedder as my tatty E39 would speak to - and as someone with no love for this Rover it would still somehow be a shame to see someone like me rack the miles in it. This has clearly been someone's last car, probably kept in a neat garage by a bungalow - it'd last a year parked on my driveway.

Odd people used to save Austin Allegro - is there no one who would love this?

StescoG66

2,117 posts

143 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Remember when these used to be the Police car of choice.

mauricegb

67 posts

117 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Yeah there's a lot of care gone into that. I'm almost tempted, I even recognise where the pictures have been taken (Outwood).

Deep Thought

35,814 posts

197 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Numeric said:
I am a shedder as my tatty E39 would speak to - and as someone with no love for this Rover it would still somehow be a shame to see someone like me rack the miles in it. This has clearly been someone's last car, probably kept in a neat garage by a bungalow - it'd last a year parked on my driveway.

Odd people used to save Austin Allegro - is there no one who would love this?
+1

I think it will be snapped up by an enthusiast, there is a small but strong Rover fan base out there who will be all over stuff like this.

Cambs_Stuart

2,866 posts

84 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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What a fantastic way to spend less than a grand. The interior looks utterly mint. Looks a great car for a long distance tour.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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My parents both had 800s and I’ve always had a soft spot for them. They both had the wonky windows issue. I think they just used to guide them up with one hand while holding the switch with the other.

Those were both new or nearly new when they had them. An 827 Vitesse and an 820si

TheAngryDog

12,406 posts

209 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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I've had two 800s. I quite like them tbh. Better than the 600 that I had and felt better built(!). I had a Vitesse Sport saloon and an 825sd saloon (VM Italia engine). The Vitesse Sport was comfy (wallowy) and had fantastic recaro seats. Was pretty quick for its size, wasn't too bad on fuel considering and was big.

The 825sd was a work horse that I used for site visits in my job. Suffered from dash lift (like the one in the post). My Vitesse Sport had been fitted with a new dash by the previous owner who had it as a company car and kept it when he retired, so it was well looked after with a stack of receipts. I stupidly sold it to buy a shed of a Cossie.

One thing though. The top of the range mk1 saloon was always the Sterling and the top of the range fastback was always the Vitesse.

luckystrike

536 posts

181 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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My dad had a sterling fadtback in a wonderful metallic blue/green colour. It was comfortable and sounded ace, plus to my eyes the fastback is the prettiest bodystyle of the lot.

I’m tempted by this.

Arsecati

2,308 posts

117 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Always loved these - well, specifically the Vitesse fastback. Will never forget the dark and arty TV ad, that ended with.......... 'British Architect'!

If it wasn't for the fact I now live in Ireland, for that money, I'd snap it up just for the sheer hell of it! wink

sjabrown

1,913 posts

160 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Seems a bargain but I can only think of Alan Partridge's hilariously vandalised one.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,007 posts

143 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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That’s truly horrendous. One for die hard Brexiters only, pretending that British is best (when it isn’t even British, and British never really was best anyway). Stick a little england number plate on it and hey, you can be a little englander too...

MrGeoff

650 posts

172 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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sjabrown said:
Seems a bargain but I can only think of Alan Partridge's hilariously vandalised one.
I can't get the image out of my head now, the best choice of words written down the side of a car ever.

Gez79

217 posts

183 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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luckystrike said:
My dad had a sterling fadtback in a wonderful metallic blue/green colour. It was comfortable and sounded ace, plus to my eyes the fastback is the prettiest bodystyle of the lot.

I’m tempted by this.
My dad had a long run of 800s, his last being a sterling kv6 in that blue green colour. It was a V reg so must have been one of the last. He sold it over 10 years ago for about the same price as this one. He hated the auto box but otherwise it was a nice car.

Prior to that he had 2 x 820Si, a tickford 820 turbo saloon in a lovely blue colour with rare full leather and a BRG Vitesse fastback 2.0 turbo with lux pack. Fond memories.


williamp

19,255 posts

273 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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The Crack Fox said:
There's a whole chapter on these in my book 'Confessions from quality control'. The Coupe version was the worst assembled car I had ever tested, anywhere, a senior production manager told me "I hate making these, we just can't build them properly". I briefly had an 820 as a company car and it was an ungainly, awkward thing to drive and despite the size felt cramped and creaky inside.

But, no fib, I yearn for a BRG 820ti Coupe today and this nightfire car looks smashing. There. I said it.
I have always wanted a coupe. And still do even after reading your book. The plants in the factory is the sort of thing Ferrari now have,..

Anyhow good shed. And not one mention of a well known Norwich based radio presenter too. That wont last...

irish boy

3,535 posts

236 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Good looking cars. I had a Vitesse back in the day, fabulous Recaro seats.

KerwinRobertson

135 posts

82 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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That video is brilliant :-) Was half expecting Alan Partridge to appear.

samoht

5,707 posts

146 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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In terms of being roasted at the time, I think I never forgave the 800 for not living up to the SD1. After all, if you replace a car with Ferrari-esque styling, a V8 and rwd with a remodelled FF Honda, it's hard to really see it in a positive light.

Having said that, this is a cracking find for the money, it's interesting and looks very well cared for. I never knew the 800 had received the KV6 at the end of its life, either.