RE: Mid-engined Corvette spied testing

RE: Mid-engined Corvette spied testing

Monday 10th September 2018

Mid-engined Corvette spied testing - now with vid!

Best look yet at the C8 generation Corvette - watch out McLaren, Ferrari et al?




UPDATE - 10.09.18

If you had any doubts of the inclusion of a good ol' (well, newly developed) V8 engine in the next Chevrolet Corvette, listen to the vocal chords of a recently spotted test car in the video below. Hear that? Yep, those are eight glorious cylinders being called into explosive action to charge this mid-engined supercar around the Nurburgring.

We can't hear anything to signal whether the beating heart of this particular 'vette is a breather of atmospheric or forced air, but one thing's for certain: it sounds as American as it ever has. It also looks super responsive and agile, traits that should be helped by the new location for its powerplant. The rearwards shift is of the biggest technical change for a Corvette in yonks, and could become the biggest cause of worry for the car's European rivals...

 

ORIGINAL STORY - 03.09.18


It's Labor Day (yes, without a u) in the United States, but despite the bank holiday the employees of Chevrolet's European technical centre are hard at work. Not only have they taken delivery of a significantly less camouflaged iteration of the upcoming mid-engined C8 Corvette than we've previously seen, but they've been kind enough to take it out and about for us to have a look at too.

Thanks to that reduction in obfuscating addenda we can now more clearly make out that the new car retains a similar front end to the current C7 generation ZR1. From there back, however, things are understandably rather different, with a shorter bonnet and longer rear deck leading into a squarer, seemingly Camaro-inspired tail end. The flared nostrils, prominent side intakes, and large vents below the rear lights all hint at the suspected increase in power set to come with the new layout, as do the quad exhausts.

Exactly what forms the engines destined for that mid-mounted bay will take remains open for speculation. What is likely, though, is that they'll mostly be of the V8 variety with everything from naturally aspirated to hybrid-assisted turbocharged units being mooted, and outputs of 450hp all the way through to a whopping 850hp rumoured. Below that comes the potential for an entry level V6, keeping the Corvette somewhat grounded as it leaves the niche of cheap but cheerful alternative to expensive European exotics - one which it has occupied with varying degrees of success for the past few decades - behind.

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Burnham

Original Poster:

3,454 posts

196 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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Have they just stolen a Ferrari 360 front end?

British Beef

1,132 posts

102 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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Why does Chevrolet need to make the iconic Corvette mid engine?

Well set up front engine has near same weight distribution as a mid engine, their performance on racetrack confirms this.

Is it to make the brand more aligned with the exotic Italian rivals that are mainly mid engined?

rockin

6,042 posts

182 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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British Beef said:
Why does Chevrolet need to make the iconic Corvette mid engine?
To compete on a level playing field with Ford GT...

British Beef said:
Is it to make the brand more aligned with the exotic Italian rivals that are mainly mid engined?
...and the Italians.

There's a general expectation that GM will keep the front-engine C7 Corvette in production and launch this mid-engine version this time next year as the more expensive halo car. Existing C7, introduced as a clean sheet design four years ago, would then get a mid life update in 2020.

C7 has been very successful with production exceeding 40,000 cars a year. It's a stunning car and an absolute bargain from £65k in UK..




Agent XXX

1,248 posts

43 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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Looks more interesting than the 'new' 911

Loyly

16,399 posts

96 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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Pistonheads have some cheek, branding these images with their logo, when I'm sure they'll have picked them up for nothing elsewhere.
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MikeGalos

231 posts

221 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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British Beef said:
Why does Chevrolet need to make the iconic Corvette mid engine?...
Why did Lotus move to mid engined?
Why did Lamborghini move to mid engined?
Why did Ferrari move to mid engined?
Why did Porsche move to mid engined (where they could)?
Why has McLaren always been mid engined?

Because this isn't 1960 anymore.

While you can make a car with an engine in front of the driver handle well, and you can even make a car with the engine hung out behind the rear wheels handle well if you're desperate to preserve a traditional model, the last 50 years of racing has shown that the best handling configuration is done by packaging the driver and engine between the wheels with engine behind the driver.

MikeGalos

231 posts

221 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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Agent XXX said:
Looks more interesting than the 'new' 911
+1

DooM_II

79 posts

69 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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finally a new Vector

kambites

55,563 posts

158 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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Presumably this isn't going to replace the front engined car anyway, I assumed it was to sit above it?

GingerPixel

64 posts

83 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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It's all looking a bit 'generic sports car from Grand Theft Auto' in these photos.

jakeb

128 posts

131 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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looks a bit like that stupid lexus thingy

Edmundo2

759 posts

147 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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Looks like a crap kit car. Also looks to be 20 years old already...Badly proportioned and lacking any fluid design or cohesion. Pretty bored of generic mid size mid engined cars but this looks especially dull. Seems a shame when the Corvette was starting to get good and stand out. Hope the old one continues along side..

Edited by Edmundo2 on Monday 3rd September 18:58

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

63 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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...and only 48 years after the XP882 mid-engined Corvette prototype...



That kicked around for several iterations over six years, with a couple of wankel engines (2- then 4-rotor) before it got a v8, finally getting signed off for production for 1980. <fails to hold breath>

yonex

12,778 posts

105 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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Edmundo2 said:
Looks like a crap kit car. Also looks to be 20 years old already...Badly proportioned and lacking any fluid design or cohesion. Pretty bored of generic mid size mid engined cars but this looks especially dull. Seems a shame when the Corvette was starting to get good and stand out. Hope the old one continues along side..

Edited by Edmundo2 on Monday 3rd September 18:58
Oh yes, they’ll make a front, mid and rear engined version rofl

You can’t tell much from the camouflage, apart from it’s very obviously made mid engined. It’ll be epic, the usual whiners won’t buy one anyway and they will sell buckloads. I really hope it comes to the UK properly damped and gives us another alternative to the ever dull 911 at a sensible price point.

Good shout IMO.


Edited by yonex on Monday 3rd September 20:42

boxerTen

473 posts

141 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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British Beef said:
Why does Chevrolet need to make the iconic Corvette mid engine?

Well set up front engine has near same weight distribution as a mid engine, their performance on racetrack confirms this.
Not true. Well set up front-engined cars can get to about 50/50 front-rear weight distribution, but ideally you want a rearward weight bias to aid traction, something like 60/40 as typically found in mid-engined cars.

kambites

55,563 posts

158 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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Looks like a pleasant if slightly generic silhouette. Here's hoping that they keep the surface treatment restrained rather than covering it in god-awful creases and lines as seems to be the preference these days.

kambites

55,563 posts

158 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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boxerTen said:
Not true. Well set up front-engined cars can get to about 50/50 front-rear weight distribution, but ideally you want a rearward weight bias to aid traction, something like 60/40 as typically found in mid-engined cars.
It's not an absolute, different people like different balances. For me 40/60 is about right but some people prefer a more nose-heavy car so the rear is looser on the throttle.

The idea that 50:50 is somehow "perfect" is pure marketing bullst but it's still some people's preferred balance.

redroadster

815 posts

169 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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Will be a bargain and sound epic please make in rhd

gigglebug

982 posts

59 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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yonex said:
Edmundo2 said:
Looks like a crap kit car. Also looks to be 20 years old already...Badly proportioned and lacking any fluid design or cohesion. Pretty bored of generic mid size mid engined cars but this looks especially dull. Seems a shame when the Corvette was starting to get good and stand out. Hope the old one continues along side..

Edited by Edmundo2 on Monday 3rd September 18:58
Oh yes, they’ll make a front, mid and rear engined version rofl

You can’t tell much from the camouflage, apart from it’s very obviously made mid engined. It’ll be epic, the usual whiners won’t buy one anyway and Ford will sell buckloads. I really hope it comes to the UK properly damped and gives us another alternative to the ever dull 911 at a sensible price point.

Good shout IMO.
So, because of the camouflage, you couldn't possibly tell that it looks a little dull (which you can and it does if I am honest) but you can clearly already tell that it is going to be "epic" with hardly any details at all. Right. Presumably you'll consider anyone that doesn't instantly want to suck it's dick a whiner as oppose to someone who just has a differing opinion to yourself?

rockin

6,042 posts

182 months

Monday 3rd September 2018
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gigglebug said:
Right. Presumably you'll consider anyone that doesn't instantly want to suck it's dick a whiner as oppose to someone who just has a differing opinion to yourself?
"Audi A3 Sportback 2.0TFSI Quattro S Line"

Oh dear...