RE: BMW Z1: Spotted
Thursday 18th October 2018

BMW Z1: Spotted

Drop the doors but not the ball with one of BMW's most iconic sports cars



It's an odd one, the Z1. With just 8,000 examples built and only around 1,500 of those sold outside Germany, it's comparatively rare. It was also forward-thinking, futuristic - the 'Z' literally standing for 'zukunft' or 'future' - and quirky, marking the first model in a lineage which has since spawned the Z3, Z4 and Z8. Finally, it's an iconic BMW, an iconic two-seat BMW sports car to be precise, which by any measure should make it a very valuable thing in today's market.

Take, for example, the Z8. A car that was hardly the final word in dynamic ability or sporting prowess - despite its E39 M5 powertrain - and yet which now sells for around £200,000. To see today's Spotted, an apparently mint condition Z1 with just 16,000 miles on the clock, up for 'just' £45,000 seems rather good value.


But no. Back when we last featured a Z1, almost seven years ago, the asking price was nearly half that sum, at £25,000. Still, several commenters stated that they'd rather spend the money on a decent 993 - imagine having the option! - while others stated that £25k was simply too much to ask for what essentially amounted to some fancy doors.

Those doors were, of course, the car's party trick. There remain few better ways to identify yourself as nonchalantly debonair than to be seen effortlessly cruising the city with them lowered, while new money tryhards in their wrapped Huracans and GTRs blast by. I say cruising the city because the weight of the gubbins required to make them drop electrically into the body, rather than just swing open like a lesser man's doors might, bestowed the Z1 with a hefty-for-the-time 1,250kg kerb weight.

This in a car which had a body made almost entirely of plastic - in fact, at launch, BMW pitched the idea that owners might purchase additional sets of body panels in order to change their car's colour when the mood took them. Combined with the lack of oomph offered up by the 170hp 2.5-litre straight-six borrowed from the E30 325i, this sold the Z1 somewhat short when it came to actual performance. Zero to sixty, for example, took over nine seconds.


It could have been so much more, though. It was one of the first BMWs to use multi-link suspension, it featured a flat undertray with ground-effect-inducing properties and those removable plastic panels were genuinely innovative. Luckily, despite it's underwhelming reception, BMW didn't abandon the two-seater concept, going on to produce several very good (and a few less so) successors to the legacy.

That's the enigma of the Z1, then. Is it worth £45,000 as a driving machine alone? No. But in today's market what classic car of any significance is measured purely on its mechanical qualities? Is it worth £45,000 as a rare curio, one which would hold its own in any private collection and could still turn heads on a public road today? Absolutely, and likely even more. The Z1 may have struggled to sell outside of Germany in its day, but with values of so many of yesteryear's cars climbing inexorably upwards, based more on what they represent now than what they achieved then, it surely still has plenty further to travel yet...


SPECIFICATION - BMW Z1
Engine:
2,494cc, straight six
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 170
Torque (lb ft): 164
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
First registered: 1989
Recorded mileage: 16,000
Price new: £36,925
Yours for: £45,000

See the full ad here.

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petemurphy

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10,504 posts

200 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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fabulous car

blearyeyedboy

6,671 posts

196 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Time has been kind to the Z1.

Its lack of popularity in the UK was surely just a consequence of being Left Hand Drive only. I'm sure RHD models would have sold like hot cakes.

I wonder if now is a good time to buy a Fiat Barchetta, for similar reasons?

g3org3y

21,672 posts

208 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Lovely stuff, quirky but very elegant and clean design cool

helix402

7,913 posts

199 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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The Z1 also introduced the Z axle independent rear suspension layout. Which may be in a Z shape hence then name.

MikeyC

836 posts

244 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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helix402 said:
The Z1 also introduced the Z axle independent rear suspension layout. Which may be in a Z shape hence then name.
Maybe, but according to Wikipedia:
Wikipedia said:
The "Z" in Z1 originally stood for Zukunft, the German word for future.
I'm guessing they changed it for the later 'Z' models maybe ?

Lovely car tho' cool

NicoG

658 posts

225 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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blearyeyedboy said:
I wonder if now is a good time to buy a Fiat Barchetta, for similar reasons?
That's a good shout...

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,428 posts

115 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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My dad had one of these. I drove it a lot round the south of France, where he lived.

For there, it was a good little car and fun to drive round with the doors down.

Collectability aside, would I want one as a second car in the UK at that price? I think there's better value more appropriate stuff elsewhere...

generationx

8,483 posts

122 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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I love the idea of these, and I remember when they were launched in the UK (1989 NEC motorshow?) a 20yr-old me sitting in one for ages happily playing with the doors until I was politely informed that other customers were interested...

I recall at the time that several commentators wrote that the chassis was easily capable of handling more power - are there many modded ones out there apart from the obvious Alpina/Schnitzer/Hartge examples?

HorneyMX5

5,533 posts

167 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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I remember the BMW dealer in Henley having one of these in the showroom when they were launched. It certainly seemed like something from the future when parked alongside the rest of the range at that time. 12 year old me loved it, 40 year old me still lives the design but I’d want to bolt a charger to it for some extra get up and go.

AW10

4,549 posts

266 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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In period Alpina (and others) offered 2.7l versions of the M20 engine. Over the years there have been various other BMW 6 cylinder engines fitted as one-offs such as the 3 litre M54 and S50 and S54 M3 engines. Most bonkers was someone fitting an S62 V8 from an E39 M5. While the M20 might have been a bit anemic the S62 was almost certainly far too much engine for the chassis.


sdiggle

198 posts

107 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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blearyeyedboy said:
Time has been kind to the Z1.

Its lack of popularity in the UK was surely just a consequence of being Left Hand Drive only. I'm sure RHD models would have sold like hot cakes.

I wonder if now is a good time to buy a Fiat Barchetta, for similar reasons?
Wasn't the Barchetta offered in RHD at the end of it's life?

Barchettaman

6,918 posts

149 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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I have a vague memory that the rear suspension in the Z1 is much more sophisticated than that in the Z3, which was a hack job from an E36 Compact.

Did I dream that?

helix402

7,913 posts

199 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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I checked my Z1 training material:




rodericb

8,123 posts

143 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Quirks and features! https://youtu.be/ssbSc0gaI04

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

140 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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I first saw one of these at a petrol station in Germany in about 1989. As a schoolboy I was astonished by it- a very rare spot clearly- still an odd looking thing !

Ahonen

5,030 posts

296 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Barchettaman said:
I have a vague memory that the rear suspension in the Z1 is much more sophisticated than that in the Z3, which was a hack job from an E36 Compact.

Did I dream that?
I think you're right. The Z3 had semi-trailing arm rear suspension from the E30/E36 Compact and was generally a much cheaper design. I remember we borrowed a new Z3 for, er, research when I was at TVR and were very underwhelmed.

sinbaddio

2,619 posts

193 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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I remember a documentary years ago on Eddie Irvine, following a season at Ferrari. His car when at home in Milan was a Z1, which made it more than cool enough for me!

3795mpower

499 posts

147 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Long before I heard anyone describe the “Z” has standing for zukunft
(And I’m talking 20 years ago) I had always read it was named after
The Z rear axle configuration.
Although it doesn’t make that much sense To follow up with Z3 which had trailing arms
At the rear and nor does zukunft/future make sense applied to a retro Z3 either.

petemurphy

Original Poster:

10,504 posts

200 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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why only the one pic frown

interestingly the new bmw styling that looks like its coming out has a very z1 looking nose!

Edited by petemurphy on Thursday 18th October 11:52

wal 45

849 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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sdiggle said:
Wasn't the Barchetta offered in RHD at the end of it's life?
No it was always LHD right until the end, wish I bought one while the prices were low instead of my Spider resto. A lot have gone back to Europe and those that are left are either expensive or ready to empty your wallet at restoration time.