RE: Manthey takes 7 seconds off GT2 RS 'ring time

RE: Manthey takes 7 seconds off GT2 RS 'ring time

Friday 2nd November 2018

Manthey takes 7 seconds off GT2 RS 'ring time

No more power, but chassis and aero mods get a road legal 911 to 6:40...



For those who need their really fast Porsche to be even more rapid, Manthey Racing is the company to visit. With no additional power, its Nurburgring expertise has created a 991.1 GT3 RS capable of a 7:10 lap (against 7:20 as standard), as well as a tweaked Cayman GT4 that took 13 seconds out of the normal car (7:29 vs 7:42) again with standard power. When you've won as much at the Nordschleife as Manthey has, it's clear you know a thing or two about getting a Porsche around the circuit pretty damn quick.

Now comes news of the latest fast-Porsche-made-faster; a GT2 RS with MR's latest range of aero and chassis tweaks has lapped the Nordschleife in 6:40.3, against 6:47.3 for the standard car. Seven seconds might not seem huge on a track that long, but when the 2 RS represents the very pinnacle of Porsche Motorsport's road car programme it's some achievement. Behind the wheel for both of those laps was Lars Keen, too, so there can't be any suggestion of a quicker driver this time around.


There isn't yet a huge amount of detail available on just want Manthey has done, there simply being mention of "targeted modifications" in "the areas of chassis and aerodynamics", with the kit supplemented "by an overall vehicle setup tailored to the circuit characteristics of the Nurburgring Nordschleife." That might make it sound like an undriveable race car with numberplates, but don't forget how good some cars with a 'ring setup are on the road - see Golf Clubsport S - and Manthey also stated that suitability for road driving was focused on "at all times."

Sounds like one heck of an upgrade, then. In fact the only thing that seems to be missing at the moment is a video of the 6:40 lap, so keep your eyes peeled for that very soon. Should a 700hp 911 RS made even more circuit focused sound right up your street, the MR kit is available to order now.

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Leonardo101

Original Poster:

38 posts

18 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Does anyone care about pointless ring times!

J4CKO

27,808 posts

144 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Its a performance car website and the Nurburgring has become a standard yardstick for comparing the performance of performance cars.

It probably isnt relevant for say a Skoda Octavia diesel taxi but it is for a Porsche 911, especially one as focused as a GT2 with extra carbon sprinkles.

I know Jeremy Clarkson decided it was pointless a few years back, but the fact manufacturers still keep going back suggests they put some value in it, at the end of the day it doesnt matter, all car racing is frivolous and utterly pointless by and large, but its fun and interesting, so thats why it has a point.


Nav7685

7 posts

50 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Yes...

Tomatogti

292 posts

113 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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7 seconds might not seem like a lot? I beg to differ - that's a huge amount to take off!

CornedBeef

282 posts

132 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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J4CKO said:
all car racing is frivolous and utterly pointless by and large, but its fun and interesting, so thats why it has a point.
Exactly!

MDL111

3,675 posts

121 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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there is a video on the Sport Auto page

Tickle

3,269 posts

148 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Leonardo101 said:
Does anyone care about pointless ring times!
Yes, more so than 0-60 or Vmax

Saying that I wouldn't buy X over Y because it had a better number on a spreadsheet.

Fantastic achievement by the Porsche and more so the driver!

WCZ

6,852 posts

138 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Leonardo101 said:
Does anyone care about pointless ring times!
yes!

what an insane time, would love to know what the mods are

4 seconds faster than the £2.5m 1,000bhp P1 GTR LM !

rtz62

1,739 posts

99 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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In some ways I agree about the irrelevance of lap times around the Nürburgring.
However, part of me thinks that its another 'yardstick' to measure ultimate performance and in some ways no different to subjecting cars to a 0-62, 1/4mile, 30-50 and 5-70mph test.
The difference is of course that it could be termed an 'absolute' test as it really reveals a cars speed, handling and braking at the limit. Obviously weather can play a greater effect at the Nürburgring, but nonetheless its a measure of testing.
My personal view is that I couldn't give a monkeys whether a 911 does a lap 7 seconds faster than another one as I'm never likely to be in a position to pit my skills, or lack of, against such times.
But still, its a 2-fingered salute to the muesli-treading, sandal-wearing, real-ale drinking, flat-earth believing environMentalists….and long may it continue.

And reading back the above, I think I might have contradicted myself!

0ddball

304 posts

83 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Unless it's the same driver, on the same day, with the same amount of traffic, a few seconds here and there means nothing.

Over that distance I'd say it's more a measure of driver skill and experience.

Matt Bird

1,092 posts

149 months

PH Reportery Lad

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Paul_M3

1,281 posts

129 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Leonardo101 said:
Does anyone care about pointless ring times!
So why on earth did you bother reading an article clearly about 'Ring times and then take the time to post about it?


Gandahar

6,892 posts

72 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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I'd like to see Sir David Attenborough commentating over a scene where a Manthey Porsche has sex with a Ruf porsche in the wilds of Germany and they have babies.

Lot's of them.

Two fantastic car outfits that should combine to give us Insel lieben



Edited by Gandahar on Friday 2nd November 13:04

E65Ross

22,934 posts

156 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Leonardo101 said:
Does anyone care about pointless ring times!
Yes. HTH.

Scho

2,303 posts

147 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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whats the deal with the animated gif look footage?

tim milne

274 posts

177 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Of course 'Ring times are important.

From a consumer perspective, we're lucky that all the manufacturers use the same piece of road (rather than their own private test tracks) to develop their products and that it has a start and finish line so can be timed and we get to compare.


Grantstown

144 posts

31 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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A lot more relevant than 0-62 in my book. I'd love to see what time a Tesla model S would post. Presumeably it'd be 'ludicrously' slow.

WCZ

6,852 posts

138 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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main differences are apparently a larger wing and KW Competition 3-way race suspension

it's interesting that kw's are much better than the standard suspension

Onehp

1,075 posts

227 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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0ddball said:
Unless it's the same driver, on the same day, with the same amount of traffic, a few seconds here and there means nothing.

Over that distance I'd say it's more a measure of driver skill and experience.
Well it is the same driver, on more or less the same weather, and no traffic obviously. 7s is huge at the very edge... On the straight, 7s means you're almost 600m behind... That's much more than nothing...

Edited by Onehp on Friday 2nd November 15:27

jon-

15,756 posts

160 months

Friday 2nd November 2018
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Change the Cup 2 to the Cup 2 R or Trofeo R and there's your time (unless the new RS comes with the Cup 2 R already)