RE: Ginetta confirms development of 600hp supercar

RE: Ginetta confirms development of 600hp supercar

Wednesday 30th January

Ginetta confirms development of 600hp supercar

McLaren 600LT-rivalling two-seater will get racing tech and help fund LMP1 programme



Big news. Ginetta has confirmed that it will launch an all-new supercar later this year with a naturally aspirated V8 engine producing more than 600hp. The model, which is intended to infuse motorsport tech and hardware with on-road usability, ought to serve as a rival for lightweight supercars such as the McLaren 600LT and Porsche 911 GT3 RS, although it'll use a more traditional front-mid engine layout.

Ginetta's in-house team is developing and building the car's aluminium block engine, which will come mated to a motorsport-spec sequential gearbox and drive the rear wheels exclusively. The powertrain will be mounted within an all-carbon fibre tub and carbon body, produced by the Leeds firm using the same manufacturing processes it has honed in building its G55 GT4 racing cars. Although details are currently scarce, expect its engineers to also borrow weight saving techniques and suspension technology from the development of Ginetta's LMP1 car.


The same race-to-road transition will be true of aerodynamic package, some of which can be seen in the official - albeit computer generated - preview images. The new model obviously sports a low, prototype-like nose sat between large intakes up front, suggesting that the motor is pushed as far back against the bulkhead as possible. The curving roofline and short, taut back-end is typical of a Ginetta, while the fixed rear wing suggests significant downforce potential.

Although now more famous for its racing efforts, which range from the World Endurance Championship right down to its own one-make G40 Junior championship, Ginetta is no stranger to road car development. It's only been four years since the V6-powered G60 was canned after just 50 were made, and lessons learned from that project ought to be useful in making the new 600hp model a success.

Ginetta chairman and former Le Mans GT2 class winner Lawrence Tomlinson said today's announcement was evidence of how "Ginetta has great untapped potential". He added that the company was "applying knowledge and technology from our racing programmes to build an uncompromised yet utterly capable road-going supercar".

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housen

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1,438 posts

130 months

Wednesday 30th January
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Frimley111R

9,327 posts

172 months

Wednesday 30th January
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How long before we get the new supercar announced chart?

cookie1600

1,066 posts

99 months

Wednesday 30th January
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Usual slow, drawn-out reveal over several weeks that we seem to get these days - so very much McLaren like in that respect. As much as I can tell, it looks like a Corvette Z06 and I'mm surprised they haven't used a crate motor from GM or Ford which could easily give the quoted horsepowers.

So more of a competitor for that car than a mid-engined McLaren then?



https://www.chevrolet.co.uk/cars/corvette-z06/#

Better be near the £100k mark to compete.

GTEYE

1,230 posts

148 months

Wednesday 30th January
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File next to TVR in the “will believe it when it actually arrives on the road” category.

Until then, move on, nothing new to see here.

Doshy

686 posts

155 months

Wednesday 30th January
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McLaren 600LT-rivalling...... I very much doubt that.
It's a supercar a day at the moment.
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housen

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Wednesday 30th January
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Doshy said:
McLaren 600LT-rivalling...... I very much doubt that.
It's a supercar a day at the moment.
yeah right

what u drive ? a mclaren bosh!!!!!

umm a ginetta ....

eh whats that ?

Gameface

6,851 posts

15 months

Wednesday 30th January
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It will probably be on the road before the TVR.

wab172uk

1,170 posts

165 months

Wednesday 30th January
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Good luck to them, but I can't see them taking sales away from the establishment.

rockin

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183 months

Wednesday 30th January
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Is it 1st of April already?

Norbury90

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144 months

Wednesday 30th January
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GTEYE said:
File next to TVR in the “will believe it when it actually arrives on the road” category.

Until then, move on, nothing new to see here.
Do Ginetta have a history of failing to deliver on promised new cars? I wasn't aware of this.

I say good luck to them, having been round their factory with PH they seem like a great bunch and I hope it's a success.

Robert-nszl1

265 posts

26 months

Wednesday 30th January
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The G60 was quite an attractive mid engined wedge with decent performance that didn't sell.... So now they are 'taking the knowledge' learned from that failed project, and producing a front engined car with their own engine....these guys are clearly bonkers! It's a smaller brand than TVR and look at the problems they are having getting their car to market. All we need now is Marcos to have another go and we can party like it's about 1992...

Fire99

9,466 posts

167 months

Wednesday 30th January
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Norbury90 said:
Do Ginetta have a history of failing to deliver on promised new cars? I wasn't aware of this.

I say good luck to them, having been round their factory with PH they seem like a great bunch and I hope it's a success.
yes

Ginetta, as opposed to say TVR (who are coming from a place of zero activity) have very successful active motorsport under their belts, so they're coming from a place of building upon existing solid activity.
Not every venture they do is a hit but they're not hanging on by their fingernails either. I also have great confidence in them releasing a supercar product. They don't strike me as fools..

rockin

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183 months

Wednesday 30th January
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Yup, I had a look at G60 but could make no sense of the content-vs-quality-vs-price equation.

You've gotta wonder what goes on in the heads of people like TVR and Ginetta when they've watched AC and Noble sell no (new) cars at all and then think, "We'll show 'em how to do it!".

You have to be able to build the WHOLE car before you can sell ANY cars. The financial numbers simply can't stack up. And then there's the question of trying to sell £100k cars without a dealer sales/service network.

Max_Torque

13,177 posts

155 months

Wednesday 30th January
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Given that MAL spend more on Biscuits that Ginetta will have to spend on this entire car, i respectfully suggest that however much power it has, or what ever outlandish claims are made, this new car will in no way a "rival" for a 600LT.........



dunnoreally

249 posts

46 months

Wednesday 30th January
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I'm not sure the naysayers are being quite fair here. Ginetta has a genuine track record of delivering stuff, unlike your typical shed startup.When they said they'd re-engineer the Farbio and get it into production, that was what happened. Yeah, no-one bought it, but the car did actually exist. Then they said they'd make an LMP1 and, sure enough, a pair of G60 LT P1s raced at Le Mans last year. Sure, they did badly, but again they made the car they said they were going to make.

So my point is that we probably will get something out of this. Not sure whether it'll sell or whether it'll be worth be worth buying, but it'll be something.

RumbleOfThunder

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141 months

Wednesday 30th January
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housen said:
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I'm not sure this forum is for you mate.

Doshy

686 posts

155 months

Wednesday 30th January
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housen said:
Doshy said:
McLaren 600LT-rivalling...... I very much doubt that.
It's a supercar a day at the moment.
yeah right

what u drive ? a mclaren bosh!!!!!

umm a ginetta ....

eh whats that ?
Errr ...... what? Are you ok?

Frimley111R

9,327 posts

172 months

Wednesday 30th January
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dunnoreally said:
I'm not sure the naysayers are being quite fair here. Ginetta has a genuine track record of delivering stuff, unlike your typical shed startup.When they said they'd re-engineer the Farbio and get it into production, that was what happened. Yeah, no-one bought it, but the car did actually exist. Then they said they'd make an LMP1 and, sure enough, a pair of G60 LT P1s raced at Le Mans last year. Sure, they did badly, but again they made the car they said they were going to make.

So my point is that we probably will get something out of this. Not sure whether it'll sell or whether it'll be worth be worth buying, but it'll be something.
TBH, a supercar is far more complex than a race car. This project baffles me, why not build on what you started with rather than go nuts on a mega money car?

cookie1600

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99 months

Wednesday 30th January
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Robert-nszl1 said:
All we need now is Marcos to have another go and we can party like it's about 1992...
Owww, now there's a thought. I wonder who owns the trademark rights to Gilbern or Reliant Scimitar?

Robert-nszl1

265 posts

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Wednesday 30th January
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What I don't understand is they already have a track car that one would assume with slightly less investment than is required for this they could adapt for road usage. Make it an Alpine competitor maybe. I'm conscious they have dipped their toe a little in this market already (didn't Autocar have one on long term test going back? ), but convincing the public to part with (say) £100k for this over a 911 or used Mclaren is a very tall order, or even a Corvette (hardly a big seller here, though is it still only lhd?) I'm as patriotic as the next man, but unless they are on the receiving end of a very very big development cheque, it is destined to be yet another footnote