RE: Formentor revealed as Cupra's first standalone car

RE: Formentor revealed as Cupra's first standalone car

Friday 22nd February

Formentor revealed as Cupra's first standalone car

Crossover will use MQB underpinnings and a hybrid powertrain when it reaches roads in 2020



For those who've struggled with the idea that Cupra is now a separate brand to Seat, maybe the launch of its first standalone model will help. Called the Formentor, it's a new crossover that still uses the VW Group's ubiquitous MQB architecture but gets bespoke styling, as well as a plug-in hybrid powertrain developing 245hp.

The concept - a production version is due to reach roads in 2020 - is headed to the Geneva motor show and takes influence from the Seat 20V20 crossover that was shown there four years ago. It's a tauter, more aggressive shape than that of the Ateca, with a swooping rear roofline and raked rear window. Cupra has optimistically tagged it a coupe-crossover - but don't expect that to catch on.


Compared to the Ateca, the Formentor - which gets its name from a peninsula of Majorca - looks slightly smaller, with a lower ride height and slimmer glass house, although the front angle suggests it could actually have wider tracks. We'd guess that the more conventionally-shaped Ateca will remain the most spacious model in Cupra's line-up, however, with the Formentor's cabin combining familiar VW Group tech with bronze highlights.

As to what capacity the car's powertrain is, we're yet to learn. The plug-in VW Golf GTE combined a 1.4-litre engine with its electric gubbins, but that 205hp setup is expected to be superseded by a new one that uses a 1.5-litre triple 'Evo' motor - something we'd assume would be integrated into the Formentor as well. Either way, Cupra said the concept gets a DSG gearbox and can do 30 miles on pure electric power. That's all we have for now, but more is likely to come when the Formentor makes its public debut in Geneva in a couple of weeks.







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GTEYE

Original Poster:

1,272 posts

149 months

Friday 22nd February
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Looks like a pretty generic SUV, not bad looking but nothing particularly special.

I can’t help but think “Tormentor” - the name seems rather strange - added to Cupra as the brand will leave the public rather perplexed as to what you’ve bought.

Johnnytheboy

17,415 posts

125 months

Friday 22nd February
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I thought this might be something interesting, but it's an MQB-based crossover.

Evercross

172 posts

3 months

Friday 22nd February
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Silly name and looks like a Mazda CX-5.

sh33n

162 posts

126 months

Friday 22nd February
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simonbamg said:
why didn't they make it a nice sensible estate with a slightly lower center of gravity
Because they already have....
https://www.evo.co.uk/seat/leon-cupra/18855/seat-l...

DaveTheRave87

1,209 posts

28 months

Friday 22nd February
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Johnnytheboy said:
I thought this might be something interesting, but it's an MQB-based crossover.
Likewise. That's disappointing.
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matpilch

241 posts

79 months

Friday 22nd February
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It's telling that the first offering of a sporty sub-brand is a SUV.

900T-R

20,198 posts

196 months

Friday 22nd February
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matpilch said:
It's telling that the first offering of a sporty sub-brand is a SUV.
It's the first bespoke offering, but they already have the Cupra Ateca - which begs the question what the h*ll they are aiming at with the Cupra brand.

Johnnytheboy

17,415 posts

125 months

Friday 22nd February
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900T-R said:
It's the first bespoke offering, but they already have the Cupra Ateca - which begs the question what the h*ll they are aiming at with the Cupra brand.
People that want their crossovers "sportier".

Baldchap

742 posts

31 months

Friday 22nd February
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So Cupra as a 'brand' is a waste of time then.

Turbobanana

1,248 posts

140 months

Friday 22nd February
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GTEYE said:
I can’t help but think “Tormentor”.
Fornicator.

Fermenter.

JackReacher

1,361 posts

154 months

Friday 22nd February
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For this brand to sustain itself and hopefully produce more interesting cars, it will need to sell some volumn, and SUVs provide the best opportunity, so that's not a surprise.

Hopefully sales of those will allow for more interesting driver focused cars, which will never sell as well as SUVs.

I do sometimes wonder whether people expect manufacturers to be a charity to the 1% of the new car buying population who want lightweight driver focused cars, producing bespoke cars at a loss to satisfy our needs.

alorotom

5,893 posts

126 months

Friday 22nd February
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Evercross said:
Silly name and looks like a Mazda CX-5.
Thats all I can see when I look at it!

TNH

470 posts

86 months

Friday 22nd February
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Has some Lamborghini esque styling cues at the back but otherwise nothing special to look at.

I see Cupra are persisting with the boring, drab Seat approach to interiors (other than the seats, which look ok).

Harry_523

86 posts

38 months

Friday 22nd February
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Johnnytheboy said:
900T-R said:
It's the first bespoke offering, but they already have the Cupra Ateca - which begs the question what the h*ll they are aiming at with the Cupra brand.
People that want their crossovers "sportier".
so more like a "car" then:

https://sniffpetrol.com/2014/05/20/nissan-announce...

SpeckledJim

17,740 posts

192 months

Friday 22nd February
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Do VW Group think they would sell fewer cars overall if they just switched Seat (and Cupra) off?

What are they for, which isn't already covered in the group?

Who says "I don't want any of the MQB products, not a single one, so I'm going to buy a Ford or a Peugeot...oh, hang on, what's that amazing Seat over there...?"


dazwalsh

4,196 posts

80 months

Friday 22nd February
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It dors have more than a passing resemblance to a cx5 at the front and a kia sportage at the rear however i quite like it.

Catatafish

916 posts

84 months

Friday 22nd February
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Turbobanana said:
Fornicator.

Fermenter.
+1 VAG group names sink to even lower levels of turd

Melchett1905

438 posts

3 months

Friday 22nd February
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Looks like a Sportage from the back. Not that it's a bad thing.

fernando the frog

124 posts

7 months

Friday 22nd February
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looks alright, i hate the badge design they chose though, looks like those lame transformer badges people stick on their cars

The Crack Fox

13,298 posts

131 months

Friday 22nd February
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fking hell.

I think there are already 29 new cars based on VW's MQB platform. I'm struggling to see the point in SEAT already, let alone the laughable "stand alone brand" bks that is Cupra. What's the real difference between this and it's VW, Skoda and Audi siblings, "bespoke styling" twaddle aside? Actually, don't tell me, I don't care.

If we ignore this, will it go away, and then we can have some interesting new cars instead?