RE: BMW M4 GTS: Spotted

Saturday 23rd February

BMW M4 GTS: Spotted

An M car track special with fewer than 500 miles and £15k off the new price? Hmm...



Remember when BMW couldn't get rid of the M3 CSLs straightaway? How bizarre that seems just a decade and a half later. Back then it was a lot more money than a standard M3 and wasn't perceived as £20k better, even allowing for the weight loss and an induction sound from the Gods.

The prospect of that seems odd in 2019 because lightweight, track-focussed specials are the ones that seem to sell out almost the moment they're announced - or sometimes even before. They appeal to drivers thanks to their dynamic improvements, to collectors for their rarity and to brand enthusiasts for what they often represent in the marque's history.


Knowing all that, the BMW M4 GTS looks like a prime specimen of the breed. Like its GT3 nemesis from Porsche, the GTS was based on an icon of the fast car world - because an M4 is close enough to an M3 to say that - it added more power, subtracted some weight and vastly improved the base product in the process. It looked a bit silly, almost a test of how dedicated buyers might be to using it, just 700 were made and there was some history to it: the GTS badge was used on the E92, and the M3 special edition almost as old as the car itself.

The M4 GTS was also, and this is a crucial point, a great car. Opinion seems to be split somewhat among British media; PH drove BMW's grey GTS along with several other sites a few years back and loved it, while those who experienced the ostensibly identical white one were less keen. For us that grey GTS was good enough to feel like an M4 transformed, angry and fast like the standard car - really, really fast, in fact - but with the chassis now to finally harness the power, rather than merely keeping a handle on it. Precise, resilient, tough and rewarding, the GTS proved what could be achieved with the M4. That it could still be lairy when required, albeit now with the driver actually feeling in control, sealed the car's reputation - it was fantastic.


Not so long ago, a few cars could be found for sale at a decent chunk more than the £120k list price, but look at this one now: registered in 2016 but having only covered 339 miles since (perhaps a buyer was hoping to make some money), it's for sale at Rybrook BMW Worcester for £110k. Hardly a bargain M3 track project, granted, but also less than they've been advertised for recently - why could that be?

Making more examples of the M4 GTS than its M3 counterpart must have contributed, plus the fact that the previous generation had a more exciting engine. It feels as well that the market has softened to some extent recently, and perhaps the introduction of the M3 and M4 CS - with some bits of what made the GTS so good - has slightly taken the edge off the flagship's appeal.


Whatever, if it can be secured basically brand new for nearly £100,000, the GTS looks a canny buy. Yes, the fundamental architecture is shared with a car far cheaper, but the GTS experience - this car's tenaciousness, resolve, excitement and engagement - makes it feel worth that money. Really. Don't forget about that 7:28 Nurburgring lap, either...

Finally, though, in the interest of balance, we should discuss the alternatives. Because many manufacturers have identified that circuit racer specials are a good way to forge a reputation, and make some money; handily for this story there are lots at around £100,000, too. See, for example, this Nissan GT-R NISMO, a Track Pack C63 Black Series and this Evora GT430, intriguing choices all three. And that's before the 911 GT3 is mentioned - early PDK 991s are certainly within budget. Sometimes though following the predictable path doesn't appeal so for that reason, and for the GTS's huge improvements over the standard car, the M4 is seriously worthy of consideration. Just maybe change the wheels, ok?


SPECIFICATION - BMW M4 GTS

Engine: 2,979cc, twin-turbo straight-six
Transmission: 7-speed dual-clutch automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 500@6,250rpm
Torque (lb ft): 442@4,000-5,500rpm
MPG: 33
CO2: 199g/km
First registered: 2016
Recorded mileage: 339
Price new: £121,280
Yours for: £109,950

See the original advert here.

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saxy

Original Poster:

150 posts

63 months

Saturday 23rd February
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An unloved investment. Haha. A car not enjoyed and lost in value too, in addition to parking fees etc.

cerb4.5lee

10,893 posts

119 months

Saturday 23rd February
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Those wheels! vomit

It hasn't depreciated too badly considering its age though.

CooperS

3,636 posts

158 months

Saturday 23rd February
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cerb4.5lee said:
Those wheels! vomit

It hasn't depreciated too badly considering its age though.
Agreed. How much would a regular depreciated if left in a garage.

I'd buy it (I think) if i had 100k swimming around in my pocket

GT4RS

1,477 posts

136 months

Saturday 23rd February
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Gt4 is a far better buy at 75k

Pooh

3,078 posts

192 months

Saturday 23rd February
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Looks terrible and an Alfa Giulietta QF would be a viable alternative for far less money.
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Jabba1977

4 posts

8 months

Saturday 23rd February
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https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/201803094405918

This is a better option - sub £80k for a car with genuine provenance (UK press car)

the_hood

391 posts

133 months

Saturday 23rd February
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White doesn't suit it. Looks great in black though.

SidewaysSi

5,156 posts

173 months

Saturday 23rd February
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Jabba1977 said:
https://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/vehicle/201803094405918

This is a better option - sub £80k for a car with genuine provenance (UK press car)
Provenance or thrashed to buggery?

ZX10R NIN

13,298 posts

64 months

Saturday 23rd February
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SidewaysSi said:
Provenance or thrashed to buggery?
If it was on the press fleet it will have been fettled to within an inch of it's life every time it came back, so for me that makes it a good buy, but saying that if I had 80k to spend on a track focused special I'd be buying the best example of a Mustang GT350R I could find.

Housey

2,009 posts

166 months

Saturday 23rd February
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No appeal to anyone outside a collector of M cars. Overpriced at the time coming into more sensible money perhaps.

HokumPokum

1,669 posts

144 months

Saturday 23rd February
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too many good things at 100k


gt3s come to mind. 997 to 991

more collectible than nismo

unlike the CSL which had a genuine big air box, different ecu and was 100kg lighter and the last GTS with its 4.4 L engine, this car has.....water injection and isn't significantly lighter.

but, even the CSL depreciated for the first 10 years. so who knows

S1KRR

9,896 posts

151 months

Saturday 23rd February
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Don't get a GTS

Get a CS



or



Depending on how many doors you want smile

MikeGoodwin

1,413 posts

56 months

Saturday 23rd February
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I hope nobody ever looks back at the f82 as a classic.

Atleast the e92 has that v8 although a heavy kerb weight for it to haul round.

Not once have I ever looked at the current gen 3 or 4 series and thought that's a good looking car.

steveb8189

201 posts

130 months

Saturday 23rd February
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saxy said:
An unloved investment. Haha. A car not enjoyed and lost in value too, in addition to parking fees etc.
Seems a pretty good investment to me. Cost the owner only £12k over 3 years and he could well have done over 400 laps of Brands Hatch in it smile Cheaper than one of those track experience days!

av185

7,717 posts

66 months

Saturday 23rd February
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Waay overpriced new.

And waay overpriced now used.

Anyone paying £100k plus for one of these is a fkwit.

Those wheels are horrific and that stupid spoiler is hilarious.

It's a no.

Joke car joke price.


mersontheperson

122 posts

104 months

Sunday 24th February
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I must be the only person who quite likes those wheels

PGNSagaris

2,021 posts

105 months

Sunday 24th February
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Me too. Love the way the car looks. The stance, the wing...excellent.

lord trumpton

5,090 posts

65 months

Sunday 24th February
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mersontheperson said:
I must be the only person who quite likes those wheels
Yeah they'd look great on something like a Seat or Citroen cactus or whatever...smile

mersontheperson

122 posts

104 months

Sunday 24th February
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lord trumpton said:
Yeah they'd look great on something like a Seat or Citroen cactus or whatever...smile
bowtie meow!!

Edited by mersontheperson on Sunday 24th February 12:20

Julian Thompson

724 posts

177 months

Sunday 24th February
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Interesting how they have the performance version on 19 inch wheels and the comp pack cars on 20’s