RE: Geneva 2019: Best of the rest

RE: Geneva 2019: Best of the rest

Thursday 7th March

Geneva 2019: Best of the rest

Away from the big debuts and bad modifying, Palexpo offers plenty of entertainment



While there have clearly been some significant debuts at the Geneva show this year, there are a few notable absences: no Ford, for example, no GM and no JLR. What that’s meant, however, is that some of the smaller players seem to have been given a bigger space in which to exhibit their wares. Makes Palexpo look fuller, doesn’t it?

While a small brand in terms of stature - on this side of Europe at least - there’s certainly nothing diminutive about the Aurus Senat. Not heard of it? The Senat is Vladimir Putin’s presidential car, confirmed last year for civilian production. The look is half Rolls Ghost and half Bentley Flying Spur, then made bigger, but the real interest is under the bonnet: the Senat is hybrid, a 4.4-litre turbocharged V8 combining with electric power for a 600hp total. It’s fit to burst with leather, wood, cushions, curtains, some more leather and then more wood, can be armoured if you wish and promises to be a “a benchmark of respectability and high technology.” Interesting. It’ll cost you 180,000 euros…


Back in the mainstream world, Audi’s stand is chock full of its latest electrified offerings (the R8 Decennium was kept seperate in a private enclosure). This has left the considerably less grand Abt stand, to, in car terms at least, appear far more interesting. Now, of course, nobody will have an RS4+ in Viper Green with bronze wheels, and it must surely ride appallingly being sat as low to the ground as the demonstrator. But it does look sensational under show lights. And it’s going to be so fast, isn’t it, what with the turbocharged V6 having been tickled to offer a C63-rivalling 510hp? Or, if you spec the Abt Power S boost, 530hp. For its ostentatiousness, then, we can forgive it.

Even Abt’s high-powered green estate is probably not as fast as the wagon painted in a similar shade on Vredestein’s stand, just a couple of rows along. The Niels van Roij Tesla Model S Shooting Brake is a car we’ve seen in pictures before, but to see it up close is really interesting. Not only is the design more cohesive and harmonious than you might expect, it’s really well constructed and, from here at least, a whole lot more interesting than the standard Model S. Is it a better fit and finish than the other UK-designed Model S Shooting Brake produced shortly before Vredestein’s offering by Qwest? Well, there’s no way of telling until we get a closer look inside. A battle to keep an eye on, certainly.


It says a lot of the calibre of launches at Geneva that Lexus and Toyota’s haven’t really garnered the attention they normally would. See, for example, this being the European debut of the Supra, but the crowds have so far remained pretty thin around the still very attractive two-door. (A quick sit confirms the BMW influence inside is huge, right down to the warning bongs; will customers care?). The GT4 version also on show is a concept, but it looks ready to race and would surely be a great contribution to any grid, so our fingers are crossed. Plus, with the GT4 category being so strictly controlled to prevent costs spiralling, you might imagine Toyota won’t have much work to do on the Supra to bring it to life. Plus, more racing cars is always a good thing, isn’t it?

Over at Lexus, the LC Convertible concept might be one of the best looking cars at the show. Honestly, it makes an S-Class look dreadfully old hat and the 911 Cabriolet a little dumpy by comparison. Plus, if the chief designer’s wink at the mention of a 5.0-litre V8 is anything to go by, it’ll be a whole lot more emotional, too. Lexus must make it immediately. Then there’s the Track Edition RC F, which can’t come soon enough as well. Sure, there are still concerns about the weight given that only 70-80kg has been pulled from the 1,765kg original, but the car looks fantastic, and the tweaks have all come in the right places. Lexus claims performance will be up without compromising comfort. Sounds very good to us.


Can you remember the last time a significant Subaru arrived at a motor show? Must have been the BRZ. But the Viziv Adrenaline looks like exactly what the brand needs. It’s a funky, stylish, interesting small crossover, one that can trade on the hardy and reliable off-road image that Subaru has retained so defiantly in all corners of the world – and which so many of its cars’ rivals conspicuously lack. In fact, the Adrenaline’s issue may be that it looks too ready for a showroom right now, lacking much in the way of real concept boldness. A set of thick wheel arches certainly give it presence, though. Let’s hope it makes it to showrooms while it still looks fresh – and then for an STI version to take on the Cupra Ateca.

It wouldn’t be a motor show without some hopeless fawning over the old cars on display. Alongside the Akula (which looks markedly better in real life, trust us), Ginetta’s stand features a G10, the ‘Cobra killer’ from the ‘60s that is so staggeringly rare. Dainty and pretty yet packing a small block V8, it looks a wonderful machine. Finally, if you are attending Geneva this year and reach saturation point with new cars, do make a beeline for the classic Abarth special exhibition. The name may have been tarnished a little in recent times with the incessant proliferation of 595 models, but to see such a gorgeous collection of 1000s, 2000s and 3000s from the marque’s glory days is a real privilege. And makes the 124 Rally road car look even more ordinary.





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Nerdherder

Original Poster:

511 posts

36 months

Thursday 7th March
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That Senat is crazy at 180k.

mrclav

748 posts

162 months

Thursday 7th March
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Nerdherder said:
That Senat is crazy at 180k.
I don't think it's quite that much in its base spec and even if it was, it represents great value for money when compared to the Phantom so I'd say it's crazy in a good way! Anyone calling this a 'poor mans Phantom' would be missing the point as not everyone has a badge snob mentality.

I know many on this forum will dismiss it as a rather inferior copycat with its Phantom-esque front and its Bently Flying Spur rear but I think there will be more clients wanting to buy this car than Senat can produce for; people would do well to remember that not everyone in the market for this type of car wants a Rolls-Royce, or indeed any car representing the (dying) West and whilst it's obviously a copycat, it will be extremely comfortable, quiet and opulent by any current measurable standard. I like the way they've done juuusssttt enough to avoid design copyright/trademark infringement lawsuits too laugh

Personally its overall look, particularly its side profile, isn't offensive to me; I'd love to experience being driven in one!

Some more pictures:-





Apparently, Putin's armoured, stretch limousine version tips the scales at 6.2 tonnes...

TWPC

596 posts

100 months

Thursday 7th March
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What is the old MGB with the big tyres? Looks like a rally special of some sort. Looks nice.

I'd love to see a group test between the Senat, Phantom and Mulsanne. Could a mag or website also get some super luxury representatives from Japan and China too? Maybe a Toyota Century and 'I don't know what' from China. That would be a great read: how funny if the Senat could put a cat among the pigeons.

Hugh Jarse

3,139 posts

144 months

Thursday 7th March
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mrclav said:
whilst it's obviously a copycat. I like the way they've done juuusssttt enough to avoid design copyright/trademark infringement lawsuits too laugh.
Seriously doubt that.
That wont be for sale in the EU or US or will face legal action.

Robert-nszl1

347 posts

27 months

Thursday 7th March
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We all know what happened when the Russians copied Concorde. I hope this Rolls Royski has better crash protection!
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Dale487

914 posts

62 months

Thursday 7th March
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Robert-nszl1 said:
We all know what happened when the Russians copied Concorde. I hope this Rolls Royski has better crash protection!
But the Tupolev TU144 was faster despite being cruder.

GingerPixel

70 posts

85 months

Thursday 7th March
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TWPC said:
What is the old MGB with the big tyres? Looks like a rally special of some sort. Looks nice.
It's a Ginetta G21 (I think?)

RB Will

5,523 posts

179 months

Thursday 7th March
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Would actually be really interested in a Tesla estate. 99% of the time I could do a weeks worth of driving on one charge but I need the big boot for doggo and kit. I'm surprised Tesla don't actually make one.

Ahonen

4,296 posts

218 months

Thursday 7th March
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mrclav said:
Anyone calling this a 'poor mans Phantom' would be missing the point as not everyone has a badge snob mentality.

I'd love to experience being driven in one!
Knock yourself out, Comrade.

Oh and it's not offensive to me because it's a 'poor man's Phantom', which is what you called it, but because it's a blatant rip off. I hope it is as successful as the Tu-144.

Macboy

395 posts

144 months

Thursday 7th March
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Dale487 said:
Robert-nszl1 said:
We all know what happened when the Russians copied Concorde. I hope this Rolls Royski has better crash protection!
But the Tupolev TU144 was faster despite being cruder.
But, let's be honest, it wasn't the faster that really mattered when cruder was the key element in its overall "success".

WCZ

6,284 posts

133 months

Thursday 7th March
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no mention of the valk working prototype?

fernando the frog

129 posts

7 months

Thursday 7th March
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that Tesla looks excellent

craig_m67

459 posts

127 months

Thursday 7th March
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Soooooo, is that it for the PistonHeads Geneva wrap-up?

I only ask as AlfaRomeo had a concept car on display and I’ve not seen a mention anywhere let alone a picture, copy of the press release, snarky comment, etc.. Admittedly, I’m a fanboi... but come on, they’re such a polarising manufacturer that a photo and click bait headline would Shirley have been advertising hit gold!?

i’m probably wrong and there’s a discussion thread tucked away somewhere


Edited by craig_m67 on Thursday 7th March 12:48

Dale487

914 posts

62 months

Thursday 7th March
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Macboy said:
Dale487 said:
Robert-nszl1 said:
We all know what happened when the Russians copied Concorde. I hope this Rolls Royski has better crash protection!
But the Tupolev TU144 was faster despite being cruder.
But, let's be honest, it wasn't the faster that really mattered when cruder was the key element in its overall "success".
The TU144 was never meant to be commercially viable like Concorde, it was a prestige project for the Soviet Union and was about being first.


threespires

3,121 posts

150 months

Thursday 7th March
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GingerPixel said:
TWPC said:
What is the old MGB with the big tyres? Looks like a rally special of some sort. Looks nice.
It's a Ginetta G21 (I think?)
Ginetta G10 I think.

https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/5296/Ginetta-G...

mrclav

748 posts

162 months

Thursday 7th March
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Ahonen said:
Knock yourself out, Comrade.

Oh and it's not offensive to me because it's a 'poor man's Phantom', which is what you called it, but because it's a blatant rip off. I hope it is as successful as the Tu-144.
It will be somewhat more successful than the TU-144 - they've already sold out their allocation for 2019.

Cold

6,339 posts

29 months

Thursday 7th March
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craig_m67 said:
Soooooo, is that it for the PistonHeads Geneva wrap-up?

I only ask as AlfaRomeo had a concept car on display and I’ve not seen a mention anywhere let alone a picture, copy of the press release, snarky comment, etc.. Admittedly, I’m a fanboi... but come on, they’re such a polarising manufacturer that a photo and click bait headline would Shirley have been advertising hit gold!?

i’m probably wrong and there’s a discussion thread tucked away somewhere
What Alfa concept do you mean? I'm resting my feet but can see the Alfa stand from here. There's the F1 inspired sticker cars or the Tonale small SUV - which I think is electric?

craig_m67

459 posts

127 months

Thursday 7th March
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Cold said:
craig_m67 said:
Soooooo, is that it for the PistonHeads Geneva wrap-up?

I only ask as AlfaRomeo had a concept car on display and I’ve not seen a mention anywhere let alone a picture, copy of the press release, snarky comment, etc.. Admittedly, I’m a fanboi... but come on, they’re such a polarising manufacturer that a photo and click bait headline would Shirley have been advertising hit gold!?

i’m probably wrong and there’s a discussion thread tucked away somewhere
What Alfa concept do you mean? I'm resting my feet but can see the Alfa stand from here. There's the F1 inspired sticker cars or the Tonale small SUV - which I think is electric?
Cheers, yes the small Tonale SUV hybrid thing.
It’s be nice to know what they’re suggesting will power it
(Has to be a dev/pre-prod concept with those mirrors and interior)

CrippsCorner

1,807 posts

120 months

Thursday 7th March
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That is the best looking thing with a Tesla badge on it (until the new Roadster comes out) so it does surprise me they don't make one themselves... then again, you scroll down and find the Audi and that destroys it - Quality thing!

Robert-nszl1

347 posts

27 months

Thursday 7th March
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Dale487 said:
Macboy said:
Dale487 said:
Robert-nszl1 said:
We all know what happened when the Russians copied Concorde. I hope this Rolls Royski has better crash protection!
But the Tupolev TU144 was faster despite being cruder.
But, let's be honest, it wasn't the faster that really mattered when cruder was the key element in its overall "success".
The TU144 was never meant to be commercially viable like Concorde, it was a prestige project for the Soviet Union and was about being first.
Yes, because of course people build commercial airliners not to be commercially viable...! Concord wasn't putting a man on the moon, it was viewed as the future of commercial flying. Having watched the (repeat I think) TV show the other night, the Russian effort did even have a few 'commercial' flights before it was canned. Not suggesting Concord was a huge commercial success at all, but that was its intention. It certainly flew, and it still should be seen as a source of huge Franco/ British pride,and subsequent shame that we couldn't make it work. We are now still blessed with sub sonic travel after all.

This car is the new Putin era Soviet system personified. It isn't a cheap Roller or Bentley, it's a rip off. It is a command economy spinning the world a line. Good luck with your £180k Lada