RE: Caterham Seven 1.4: Spotted

RE: Caterham Seven 1.4: Spotted

Thursday 14th March 2019

Caterham Seven 1.4: Spotted

Want a cheap, entry-level Caterham that isn't a 160? There is another way!



When the Caterham Seven 160 arrived - more than five years ago now, incredibly - it really was something new for the brand. An engine far smaller than ever before, turbocharged for the first time, and cheaper than any other Seven, too - the kit available from Β£15k.

It's proved popular, too, certainly if the sell-out limited edition Sprint and SuperSprint models are anything to go by. And in a cute, retro-type way, the three-cylinder cars are quite entertaining, parping away merrily while delivering a decent turn of speed.

Trouble is, there is something lost about the Caterham experience in the switch to turbocharging. Response has slackened, the willingness to rev is not quite there and inevitably its throttle adjustability is less precise. So while they're very good, the three-cylinder Caterhams, anyone with experience of the naturally-aspirated cars might find one or two crucial elements lacking.


So what about this one? It was made just three years ago, but using a 1.4-litre K Series engine. That's right - in 2016 it was still possible to buy a Caterham with a K Series. Who knew? The Seven was arguably the most successful installation of the K Series, creating models as memorable as the original R300 and R500.

Like the 160, this is a low-powered Seven (it makes 105hp, the turbo car 80), meaning it's ideal for those in the market for their first Seven; powerful enough to feel exciting without lacking the intimidation factor of the bigger-engined cars. But with this version the character and excitement of those models is retained by using a similar engine - sounds like a win-win.


It gets better, too, because this K Series car is as cheap as Sevens go - it's Β£14,995 with fewer than 6,000 miles on it. To get into a Seven 160 you'll need two grand more, this orange car also with another 20,000 miles. Indeed to get into a Sprint - admittedly a more expensive limited edition - requires more than twice the outlay.

Sure, something like an Elise might offer a similarly immersive experience, but that'll be a much older car. As an introduction to just what's so special about a Seven, this one looks bob on - and British summer time is a matter of weeks away, according to the calendar...




SPECIFICATION - CATERHAM SEVEN 1.4

Engine: 1,396cc, four-cyl
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 105@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 95@N/Arpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
First registered: 2016
Recorded mileage: 5,963
Price new: Β£18,689
Yours for: Β£14,995

See the original advert here.

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Nerdherder

Original Poster:

1,655 posts

47 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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If I could find a LHD version of the 1.4 with similar balance of state/mileage/price I'd snap it up in a second.

Edited by Nerdherder on Thursday 14th March 15:12

Luke.

8,145 posts

200 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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Sold.

SuperSonicSloth

33 posts

22 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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This is so very tempting, if only I had a garage. These are about the nicest looking sevens IMHO, the minilites set them off a treat. Love the idea of a little, revvy K unit. And British Racing Green too, oh my. I need to move house...

Lotobear

1,726 posts

78 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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I used to have a 1.4k Supersport (130bhp) with the 6 speed box.

Such a fun little car, the high revving low torque 1.4 K suited it so well.

I had it upgraded by DVA to a 1.8 Supersport - it came back with more power and grunt but was never as nice as the 1.4 with 130bhp - it was the real sweet spot.

I said I'd never have another after the subsequent owner had a horrendous accident in it (I posted the pics of the car crash thread) but I have a dry sumped Lotus TC sitting in my garage looking for a home (I've missed the Mk1 Escort boat) ....now if I could find a Caterham minus engine or better still a S2 Lotus Seven?!

carinaman

14,282 posts

122 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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Delightful.

mrbarnett

467 posts

43 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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I just got so excited about this that I dived onto their website to see the new 7's for under £20k. There are none; the base car is now the 270 at over £26k.


Inflation much?!

SuperSonicSloth

33 posts

22 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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Lotobear said:
I said I'd never have another after the subsequent owner had a horrendous accident in it (I posted the pics of the car crash thread)
I guess these will never be the safest things on the road. Overkill perhaps, but there's always the potential for getting one with a cage. Got to be a safer way of getting your motoring kicks than a 2-wheel alternative?

DoubleD

10,612 posts

58 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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It looks lovely in green

simonh9

176 posts

136 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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Lotobear said:
I used to have a 1.4k Supersport (130bhp) with the 6 speed box.

Such a fun little car, the high revving low torque 1.4 K suited it so well.

I had it upgraded by DVA to a 1.8 Supersport - it came back with more power and grunt but was never as nice as the 1.4 with 130bhp - it was the real sweet spot.
Snap! I started with 1.4 130bhp 6 speed. A really sweet engine that came alive from 4500rpm. I put verniers on, which undoubtedly made it quicker, but it lost that 'coming on cam' feeling. You had to thrape it but it always surprised people that it was only a 1.4. I then put a 1.8 in, which made it a fair chunk quicker, but relatively unsatisfying at the top end as the power tailed off after 7.

Fast forward many years and I've bought a 1.6 hoping to capture the essence of the 1.4 but with a little more grunt - my theory being that perhaps the 1.8 is too long stroke, so the 1.6 being a bored out 1.4 would be revvier. It is revvier than the 1.8 certainly, but still not quite as manic as the 1.4. I think a DVA throttle body kit should be the next port of call!

irish boy

2,527 posts

186 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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The 1.4 105 k series is a delightful little engine in the mgzr so can't see how it would disappoint in a Caterham.

Don Roque

16,877 posts

109 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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Sounds like a good bet. Even with it's low output, anything has to be better than turbocharging in a Caterham. I doubt the 160 triple is bad but I can image it rather lacks the finesse and control of this model.

M4CK 1

428 posts

77 months

Thursday 14th March 2019
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Did they do 1.6 version? I believe these were the sweetest of the K series.

PATTERNPART

667 posts

151 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Very nice and the K Series is a classic in its own right. Ideal for the car. And faithful in a way to Colin Chapman's A Series in much earlier cars.

ash73

17,073 posts

171 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Car looks mint, but 1.6 K with the 6 speed box was the real sweet spot, imo.

HustleRussell

17,345 posts

110 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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Have owned a later Ford 1.6 version and my Dad had an R300 with the Duratec, the Ford engines completely lack the character of the K-series.

SidewaysSi

6,486 posts

184 months

Friday 15th March 2019
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I have a 1.6K Superlight. It is bloody brilliant smile

The best of the Sevens according to EVO some years ago:

https://www.evo.co.uk/caterham/7/19534/from-lotus-...

CDP

5,800 posts

204 months

Saturday 16th March 2019
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irish boy said:
The 1.4 105 k series is a delightful little engine in the mgzr so can't see how it would disappoint in a Caterham.
Pity it didn't end up in the Mini too.

coppice

5,711 posts

94 months

Sunday 17th March 2019
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I had the 1.4K SS in the 90s - a brilliant engine , revved for ever , sounded fantastic but completely ruined by ratios in 5 speed box then fitted. 70 in second, 95 in 3rd and couldn't pull up a motorway hill in 5th . No power below 5k revs - which is why it was transformed by the 6 speed. But it was cheaper for me to get a bigger engine. What gearbox does it now have?