RE: Porsche 917-001 meets Concorde: Time For Tea

RE: Porsche 917-001 meets Concorde: Time For Tea

Thursday 11th April 2019

Porsche 917-001 meets Concorde: Time For Tea?

Two legends of automotive and aviation turn 50 this year- here driver and pilot discuss why they're so special



On April 9th 1969, a Concorde prototype set off on its first flight - from Filton Airfield in Bristol, no less. From then until October 2003, it broke records, captured imaginations and redefined 20th century air travel - before retiring with no direct replacement.

It was the same year, the same month in fact, that the first Porsche 917 began its development process ahead of the Le Mans 24 Hours. Like the plane, the 917 established a level of speed and performance previously unknown, and - like Concorde - continues to fascinate enthusiasts decades later.

What better opportunity, then, given those events were 50 years ago, to get Concorde and 917-001 together. This Porsche video has been published today, featuring 1970 Le Mans winner Richard Attwood talking Captain Tim Orchard - Concorde pilot, and joint record older for the shortest commercial flight between New York and London, at 2hr 52m - around the legendary racer. Naturally the favour is returned, the Concorde in this video the last one ever to be flown; 'Alpha-Foxtrot' completed 6,045 flights in total, and now lives at Aerospace Bristol, a fitting resting place given it's where the Concorde story began.

It'll come as little surprise to find that this is an immensely watchable video, two esteemed gents sharing stories and experiences of amazing machines. Combined with period footage of the plane from the glory days, it's difficult not come across a tad emotional at what an achievement Concorde really was. The only real shame is there's maybe not as much 917 in there - see here to address that issue...

 



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Swine Enthusiast

Original Poster:

312 posts

104 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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What a fantastic article! Great to see the 917's at the Goodwood MM last weekend, even better to hear them on the track!

Sixpackpert

4,559 posts

214 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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They have done a nice job at Filton to diplay their Concorde.

It's well worth a visit if you are passing. I'm going back soon when they have completed work on the nose hydraulics enabling it to droop once again.

morgs_

1,663 posts

187 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Two of my favourite things in once place and it's just down the bloody road! Lucky enough to have flown in one (this one in fact!) and see the other racing, can't imagine I'll ever get to drive a 917 but that's what dreams are for.

Sixpackpert said:
They have done a nice job at Filton to display their Concorde.

It's well worth a visit if you are passing. I'm going back soon when they have completed work on the nose hydraulics enabling it to droop once again.
Agreed, a good mate works for Rolls so was lucky enough to visit during one of the preview days. Still looks glorious, if a little sad with her paintwork a bit faded after being outside so long.

mrclav

1,295 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Great video. Two veterans being oh so modest when in fact they both were, as one of them said, stepping out into the unknown.

I was smiling watching it, it was a real pleasure.

Also, just how small is that Concorde cockpit!?

sisu

2,580 posts

173 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Tenious link between the 917 and Concorde?


The 917 was under development in '68 and they had built three cars later that year, the FiA at the time had said that cars in bits or 908's being sold to privateers didn't count. So they withdrew the homologation as they didn't think this was compliant, the number of homologation cars was reduced from 50 to 25. The car was launched for sale at the '69 Geneva motorshow in March and 3 cars were already testing that month at LeMans.

The picture of the 25 cars lined up in front of the factory was in April 1969. After the FiA was offered the infamous offer to drive any of them by Piech, all but 2 were disassembled that month.

This is Porsche GB getting Goodwood leftovers and making it look like they were the same because the longtail looks the same side on.

Concorde was doing a maiden flight in Britain in May '69 and little changed in the design until that one was parked up in 2003.



STiG911

1,210 posts

167 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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sisu said:
Tenious link between the 917 and Concorde?
Not many people know this, but it is possible to see something you don't like on the internet and simply move on with your life...

sisu

2,580 posts

173 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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STiG911 said:
sisu said:
Tenious link between the 917 and Concorde?
Not many people know this, but it is possible to see something you don't like on the internet and simply move on with your life...
Just calling it for what it is, the Pilot pointing out "its a car, its got 4 wheels..." even he was struggling to fluff this PR piece.
He did a maiden test flight of Concorde in '69 and it flew commercially in '76. Much like Vik Elford wasn't a test driver for the 917, he drove it in June of that year.
This is Porsche GB stating that the " 917-001 moved under its own power in April 1969" which is balls as they want to match something for a photo op.

Sandpit Steve

10,048 posts

74 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Great video, I think I could happily watch those two men talking for hours about their astonishing machines.

S1KRR

12,548 posts

212 months

Friday 12th April 2019
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Meh


Surely better to have a photo with Concorde and another world beating, British enginnered and built, utter LEGEND in its field