RE: Jaguar XE S: Spotted

RE: Jaguar XE S: Spotted

Tuesday 7th May

Jaguar XE S: Spotted

Sad about the V6 XE's demise? Here's one with 4,000 miles on it and £20k off...



While the new Jaguar XE has improved on the vehicle that preceded it across the board, there remains some sadness - certainly around here, at least - about the demise of the V6 car. Though the four-cylinder P300 replacement is fine, and feels the benefit of less weight over the nose, it's neither remarkable by four-cylinder standards nor as charismatic as the old engine. Oh sure, nobody bought the V6, and it was hardly in the first flushes of youth, but we would defy anyone to drive an XE with that motor in and not enjoy the experience immensely. It just worked; really, really nicely.

All that said, the downsizing move is more than understandable. Beyond the poor sales, the 3.0-litre supercharged engine wasn't all that efficient, both in isolation and against key rivals from Audi, BMW and Mercedes. When the same performance can be delivered while consuming less fuel and emitting less CO2, the decision is impossible to avoid. Trouble is that the joy derived from a car can't be quantified by a number, and that's where the old XE S excelled - it wasn't revolutionary or ground breaking in any way, but it was a damn nice car to drive, and the engine's contribution to that was considerable. When Autocar first compared an XE just like this one with a BMW 340i, the conclusion was emphatic: The Jaguar hasn't just shaded this test; as a driver's car, the XE S has put clear air between itself and a car that many - me included - imagined would present an insurmountable challenge." So there.


When new, however, the XE was £45,000 before a single option was added, fully £5,000 more than that 3 Series. Being a large-engined, series production Jaguar, it has of course depreciated, but the case of this particular Italian Racing Red car is remarkable: one of the earliest XEs made on a 15 plate, it has somehow covered just 4,000 miles in those four years. Furthermore, while its £26k asking price isn't the lowest out there - the highest-mileage cars are £20k, and later 380s are available privately for £25k - it does represent an enormous saving off that list price. For a car which, let's be honest here, has barely even left the forecourt in the grand scheme of things.

Why? The slightly odd slabs of dark blue leather inside could contribute. And it shouldn't be forgotten that the quite profligate, most expensive version in the XE range must be quite a tough sell to those not that invested. The more prosaic diesels and petrols will have broader appeal.


If you are invested, though, what an opportunity this is. While it's a V6 rather than a straight-six, as powered so many famous Jags, there's considerable nostalgic appeal in having half a dozen cylinders under the bonnet of a rear-drive Jaguar saloon - especially so now that it won't happen again. That the car was more than competitive in a contemporary context only increases the temptation further.

As for those rivals, the BMW 340i is considerably more common yet no cheaper (despite that lower asking price), this 2016 car with 8,000 miles is for sale at £26,880. As for the Audi S4, paying the same amount of money only gets you a saloon with more than 30,000 miles. And although a Mercedes C350e is available for less money, that's a four-cylinder hybrid powertrain, and so rather loses its validity in this 'six appeal' argument, nice car though it surely is.

The Jaguar XE S isn't the first car to be shown greater appreciation in light of its replacement, though there won't be that many more to follow suit, surely, with the downsizing revolution well underway. So while a large engine will be more difficult than ever to make an objective case for, the subjective appeal is probably greater than it's ever been - here's the ideal chance to experience it.




SPECIFICATION - JAGUAR XE S

Engine: 2,995cc, supercharged V6
Transmission: 8-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 340@6,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 332@4,500rpm
MPG: 34.9
CO2: 194g/km
First registered: 2015
Recorded mileage: 4,366
Price new: £44,865
Yours for: £26,577

See the original advert here.



 

 

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Bright Halo

Original Poster:

683 posts

176 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Really like these in 3.0 v6 form.
Considering one as our family car when up for change at the end of the year.

dunnoreally

282 posts

49 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Flippin' 'eck, that's around £375 a month just in depreciation!

But anyway, here's hoping that new I6 makes its way into the XE...

mrbarnett

337 posts

34 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Shhh - don't tell everyone! These are on my constant watchlist to track depreciation, in light of the posibility of needing more seats and doors in the future. My hope is that I can snap one up for somewhere in the region of £12-15k in a couple of years.

As for the car, for me, the dodgy trim choice seems to let quite a few down. That blue obviously doesn't go with the red exterior, but the red interior is also nasty. Black is a bit boring, and anything else is rare. Also those wheels are nasty, but common, options. The standard silver wheels are an inch smaller and a whole lot nicer.

So now it's a case of finding a rare car, in a pleasing hue, with a classy interior and standard wheels. I might well need a couple of years...

kambites

56,523 posts

162 months

Tuesday 7th May
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dunnoreally said:
Flippin' 'eck, that's around £375 a month just in depreciation!
It's a four year old car with a large(ish) petrol engine and is still, apparently, worth more than half its list price. That's really not bad, especially given that it's unlikely the original buyer paid the full list price for it.

dukebox9reg

1,256 posts

89 months

Tuesday 7th May
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One thing I love about these AJ126 engines is they can can sound fairly bonkers with an aftermarket active exhaust if the mood takes you.

Just wait until the drive by clip.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Nb7MGJOzc
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Johnnytheboy

17,766 posts

127 months

Tuesday 7th May
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My old man's on his second of these and I can confirm that they are fantastic.

Real 'Jekyll and Hyde' character. Quiet and serene around town; when your foot down it sounds like there is someone in the boot shouting to be let out.


B17NNS

18,244 posts

188 months

Tuesday 7th May
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dukebox9reg said:
Just wait until the drive by clip.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Nb7MGJOzc
I imagine that would get very annoying very quickly.

There was one in blue parked outside my gaff over the weekend, handsome thing.

QuattroPotty

1 posts

5 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Johnnytheboy said:
My old man's on his second of these and I can confirm that they are fantastic.

Real 'Jekyll and Hyde' character. Quiet and serene around town; when your foot down it sounds like there is someone in the boot shouting to be let out.
Couldn’t agree more. Had one over a Golf R because of exactly that. Does have to go back to Jag quite often though...under warranty for the moment whistle

nuttywobbler

59 posts

3 months

Tuesday 7th May
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Like a 3 Series or C Class, just worse in every way.

These looked old before they were even released.

Pass!

DP33

141 posts

67 months

Tuesday 7th May
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I really like these and having now been deprived of my straight six for a month (thanks to the BMW EGR recall) to be left with a 4 cylinder 630i, I now fully realise that you really can't put a price on the character that a multi-cylinder engine brings to the party.

But seriously blue with a red exterior - surely has to be a miss-build?

covmutley

1,722 posts

131 months

Tuesday 7th May
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I picked this one up a couple of weeks ago to replace my BMW i3.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

It was £600 less than the link. They had created a new ad at a lower price but only deleted the lower price one. The wheels look better in real life.

It's like 2 cars in 1, luxurious and smooth on 1 side, but manic in dynamic mode.

Noise of the v6 burble and supercharger whine from up front is just great!

It's also well specced as standard compared to ze germans.i have electric seats, self parking (not used yet!), rear camera, adaptive suspension, meridian stereo, blind spot monitoring, self dipping full beam, folding mirrors, etc etc

I'm not sure how poster above can say it's worse than c class and 3 series in every way. Almost all the reviews I watched said it's better handling than both. I haven't driven the 340i but have driven the 330e (and m135i) and the xe is better than 3 series in my opinion.

I am a BMW fan, but the interior of the xe feels more special than the fairly bland 3 series, even if some of the materials lower down in the cabin are worse.



Edited by covmutley on Tuesday 7th May 22:31


Edited by covmutley on Tuesday 7th May 22:33

monzaxjr

125 posts

87 months

Tuesday 7th May
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dukebox9reg said:
One thing I love about these AJ126 engines is they can can sound fairly bonkers with an aftermarket active exhaust if the mood takes you.

Just wait until the drive by clip.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0Nb7MGJOzc
Sounds horrible. Just noise.

B17NNS

18,244 posts

188 months

Wednesday 8th May
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DP33 said:
to be left with a 4 cylinder 630i
Wait. What? There’s a 4 cylinder 6 series now? That’s sacrilege.

DrSteveBrule

1,730 posts

72 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Great looking cars, I'd have one of these in a few years when they're a little more affordable. Not in this colour or with this interior though.

The picture taken of the boot with the seats folded down; has some trim fallen off? I can't believe they left the factory with that amount of metal bracing and wiring on show.

1Rb

216 posts

96 months

Wednesday 8th May
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mrbarnett said:
Shhh - don't tell everyone! These are on my constant watchlist to track depreciation, in light of the posibility of needing more seats and doors in the future. My hope is that I can snap one up for somewhere in the region of £12-15k in a couple of years.
+1

M Powered

348 posts

150 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Slightly odd Blue and Red combo on that car, but it does have some rare XE S options like Head Up Display and Adaptive Cruise.

Totally agree with the review though, I love mine for it's duality of character. Whilst it will do single figure MPG's if exploited for that glorious (stock!) exhaust note , my long term average in general use is 27/28, so good enough in my mind.






DP33

141 posts

67 months

Wednesday 8th May
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B17NNS said:
DP33 said:
to be left with a 4 cylinder 630i
Wait. What? There’s a 4 cylinder 6 series now? That’s sacrilege.
Not a real 6er - it's a visually challenged 5er that does about 25 mpg - hence its loan car status - one to avoid

Nickp82

1,727 posts

34 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Had a drive of one of these a few weeks ago and loved it, for me it is one of those cars I can clearly remember the feeling of driving enthusiastically. As others have said, once they depreciate that bit more to the sub-£15k mark it will make really quite a compelling proposition.

pSyCoSiS

2,443 posts

146 months

Wednesday 8th May
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Such a shame and sad days indeed that the 6 cylinder engines are being removed from car ranges.

Totally agree, even if the 4 pots give more power and sound ok, there is something alluring about a 6 pot's character.

CABC

2,497 posts

42 months

Wednesday 8th May
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pSyCoSiS said:
Such a shame and sad days indeed that the 6 cylinder engines are being removed from car ranges.

Totally agree, even if the 4 pots give more power and sound ok, there is something alluring about a 6 pot's character.
this is already a green engine: 8 pot with 6 pistons!