Yamaha Mt-07 or XSR700... or similar
Discussion
I am trying to decide on my next bike having had my XT660x for a couple years now I am getting an itch for a replacement.
I liked the look of the MT-07 and recently seen the video on the XSR700 done by 44teeth and it seems pretty good so now been looking at these, I like the look of them and they are less common than the MT-07, but still undecided.
I can get an MT-07 cheaper used as there are more available, but they also do deals on the XSR700 new for about 7k (Euros) which is tempting...
Anyone have either of these and can comment on them? Any other suggestions of something similar/better?
I would quite like an off road type bike as I enjoyed riding on forest tracks etc in Scotland before, but living in Austria means you cant take a bike off road anywhere, even mountain bikes aren't allowed everywhere here!
I liked the look of the MT-07 and recently seen the video on the XSR700 done by 44teeth and it seems pretty good so now been looking at these, I like the look of them and they are less common than the MT-07, but still undecided.
I can get an MT-07 cheaper used as there are more available, but they also do deals on the XSR700 new for about 7k (Euros) which is tempting...
Anyone have either of these and can comment on them? Any other suggestions of something similar/better?
I would quite like an off road type bike as I enjoyed riding on forest tracks etc in Scotland before, but living in Austria means you cant take a bike off road anywhere, even mountain bikes aren't allowed everywhere here!
I do really like them too, but they are going for 10.5k here so bit out of budget for now, I also don't have anywhere near here I could take it off road either so would be a bit pointless.
Maybe when they come down in price a bit used I would consider one, but would need to check if I can take it off road in surrounding countries first (Hungary/Czech/Slovakia can all be driven to within an hour roughly to the borders so weekend trips would be possible).
Maybe when they come down in price a bit used I would consider one, but would need to check if I can take it off road in surrounding countries first (Hungary/Czech/Slovakia can all be driven to within an hour roughly to the borders so weekend trips would be possible).
Can't comment on the 700, but its 3 piston siblings are all highly regarded, as are the 700s. I can't imagine you would be disappointed with one, as long as you are aware it's not going to be the last word in performance or speed!
As you are in Austria, the KTM 690 and 790 range are worth a look for sure! The Duke 690 should be in budget and if you can find an R model has more premium brake and suspension parts than the Yamaha.
Perhaps a Ducati Scrambler is also worth a look?
As you are in Austria, the KTM 690 and 790 range are worth a look for sure! The Duke 690 should be in budget and if you can find an R model has more premium brake and suspension parts than the Yamaha.
Perhaps a Ducati Scrambler is also worth a look?
XSR 700, change the stock tyres they are crap when its cold/damp, same s
tty sock as the MT so you might want to upgrade that and also try to protect the two coolant pipes as the finish wipes off easily and either bike get a rad guard in the deal.
Otherwise they are a decent bike ,they handle reasonable well, there reasonable light, you will be stopping for fuel a lot as the tank is small and you get about 49mpg.Id upgrade to a gold chain as the standard one dont like getting wet and if your using it year round in a cold/damp climate you will need some ACF50 as they do get surface rust quickly if left unloved on the fasteners and inside the swing arm.
tty sock as the MT so you might want to upgrade that and also try to protect the two coolant pipes as the finish wipes off easily and either bike get a rad guard in the deal.Otherwise they are a decent bike ,they handle reasonable well, there reasonable light, you will be stopping for fuel a lot as the tank is small and you get about 49mpg.Id upgrade to a gold chain as the standard one dont like getting wet and if your using it year round in a cold/damp climate you will need some ACF50 as they do get surface rust quickly if left unloved on the fasteners and inside the swing arm.
Make sure you test ride both the MT07 and the XSR700 as the riding position is quite different and whilst the seat height is listed as only being 1cm taller, the flat wide seat of the XSR makes more of a difference than you might expect. I believe the newer XSR Tribute has a different seat which is even taller too.
DanGPR said:
Can't comment on the 700, but its 3 piston siblings are all highly regarded, as are the 700s. I can't imagine you would be disappointed with one, as long as you are aware it's not going to be the last word in performance or speed!
As you are in Austria, the KTM 690 and 790 range are worth a look for sure! The Duke 690 should be in budget and if you can find an R model has more premium brake and suspension parts than the Yamaha.
Perhaps a Ducati Scrambler is also worth a look?
I'm not so bothered about extreme performance or speed, I had a CBR600rr in Scotland which was way faster than i really needed, so have gotten that out of my system already, maybe will get something like that again in future but for now I want something different.As you are in Austria, the KTM 690 and 790 range are worth a look for sure! The Duke 690 should be in budget and if you can find an R model has more premium brake and suspension parts than the Yamaha.
Perhaps a Ducati Scrambler is also worth a look?
Coming from an XT660x it will be a decent enough step up in performance anyway.
I have looked at the KTMs also, I really like the 690 SMC but its pretty similar to what I have now (Although more powerful) and the Husky 701 looks nice too. The 790 KTMs are really nice too but again a bit more than I would like to spend at the moment.
I was never really a fan of the Dukes but maybe should go see one in person and test drive one to see if I like them, they do seem popular.
I like the Ducati Scrambler too but how are they reliability wise? I always think of Ducati being more unreliable but maybe that isn't so fair these days.
A500leroy said:
XSR 700, change the stock tyres they are crap when its cold/damp, same stty sock as the MT so you might want to upgrade that and also try to protect the two coolant pipes as the finish wipes off easily and either bike get a rad guard in the deal.
Otherwise they are a decent bike ,they handle reasonable well, there reasonable light, you will be stopping for fuel a lot as the tank is small and you get about 49mpg.Id upgrade to a gold chain as the standard one dont like getting wet and if your using it year round in a cold/damp climate you will need some ACF50 as they do get surface rust quickly if left unloved on the fasteners and inside the swing arm.
Thanks for the tips, appreciated! Will take note if I go for one.tty sock as the MT so you might want to upgrade that and also try to protect the two coolant pipes as the finish wipes off easily and either bike get a rad guard in the deal.Otherwise they are a decent bike ,they handle reasonable well, there reasonable light, you will be stopping for fuel a lot as the tank is small and you get about 49mpg.Id upgrade to a gold chain as the standard one dont like getting wet and if your using it year round in a cold/damp climate you will need some ACF50 as they do get surface rust quickly if left unloved on the fasteners and inside the swing arm.
wilbo83 said:
Make sure you test ride both the MT07 and the XSR700 as the riding position is quite different and whilst the seat height is listed as only being 1cm taller, the flat wide seat of the XSR makes more of a difference than you might expect. I believe the newer XSR Tribute has a different seat which is even taller too.
Yeah for sure I will be testing them both first and maybe a few others before deciding, just narrowing down the options at the moment and open to other ideas too which I may not have considered.I actually checked a Yamaha dealers website near me on Monday and just missed out on their two open days where you can test all the new models and get good deals etc on the Friday/Saturday last week... typical!
My other half has a MT-07 motocage with the garish hand guards removed and a yoshimura exhaust fitted. Everytime I ride it I come back with a beaming smile. It sounds fantastic, has enough power to be quick (low kerb weight) and feel quicker, but not too much so as to catch you out. It sounds fantastic (did i say that already?), hugely comfortable (I'm 6'2 and whilst I look big on it, it feels great) and on Devon roads really does shift and soak up all the poor road surfaces. Reviews mention the rear end on them could do with sorting out as they supposedly bob a bit, have only really noticed this when riding at Warp factor 6 along a heavily undulating road and I'm pretty heavy. The bike has given the Mrs a lot more confidence in picking up the pace.
Con's are that body work quality is pretty poor and threads for bolts securing seat are made of cheese.
Pains me to say it but I might enjoy it more than my 990 Superduke.
Con's are that body work quality is pretty poor and threads for bolts securing seat are made of cheese.
Pains me to say it but I might enjoy it more than my 990 Superduke.
I've had an XSR700. I'd get the MT-07 over it...
It was funky. Sounded good with a Leo Vince exhaust on it. But the seat isn't very comfortable. It does get a bit wayward if you like to corner quickly. However, I'm knocking 100Kg.
Probably boils down to which you prefer the look of. I do like the look of the tribute model!
It was funky. Sounded good with a Leo Vince exhaust on it. But the seat isn't very comfortable. It does get a bit wayward if you like to corner quickly. However, I'm knocking 100Kg.
Probably boils down to which you prefer the look of. I do like the look of the tribute model!
I have a Ducati scrambler in the UK but I hired a XSR 700 in the canaries for a couple of days as I wanted something fun and agile like the Scrambler. I was very impressed with the XSR although it was not quite as accomplished as the Scrambler it was still an excellent package and thoroughly enjoyable and fun on the roads out there. Some onboard
https://youtu.be/veH8aBt4Xxc
https://youtu.be/veH8aBt4Xxc
Thanks again for all your thoughts on them.
Last Friday I test drove both back to back, first I took out the XSR as I think i prefer the styling of this one slightly, while it was a nice bike to ride it didn't feel so good at higher speeds and handling, the power didn't seem as good as I expected either.
I then took out their MT-07 and it was a much nicer bike to ride imo, comfier and felt much quicker and better handling.
Both had Akra pipes on so perhaps the XSR needed tuned? Not sure but it definitely didn't feel as nice as the MT, the XSR was newer with about 2k KM and MT about 10k km so perhaps this was another reason with the MT being broken in properly?
Out of the two after the test drive it was no question the MT-07 for me, will try a few other bikes first to compare but I really liked it.
My bike is up for sale now so will see if I get any takers in the next weeks while I try some others, I have a day off tomorrow so might visit a Honda/Kawasaki dealer and see what they have to try, quite like the look of the CB650r or Z750.
Last Friday I test drove both back to back, first I took out the XSR as I think i prefer the styling of this one slightly, while it was a nice bike to ride it didn't feel so good at higher speeds and handling, the power didn't seem as good as I expected either.
I then took out their MT-07 and it was a much nicer bike to ride imo, comfier and felt much quicker and better handling.
Both had Akra pipes on so perhaps the XSR needed tuned? Not sure but it definitely didn't feel as nice as the MT, the XSR was newer with about 2k KM and MT about 10k km so perhaps this was another reason with the MT being broken in properly?
Out of the two after the test drive it was no question the MT-07 for me, will try a few other bikes first to compare but I really liked it.
My bike is up for sale now so will see if I get any takers in the next weeks while I try some others, I have a day off tomorrow so might visit a Honda/Kawasaki dealer and see what they have to try, quite like the look of the CB650r or Z750.
Mortgage_tom said:
CB650r looks like a nice bike. Good price to.
They do look nice but over here I can get a new MT-07 for roughly 7100 euro and the CB650r is 8500 euros so quite a bit more, it would need to be a lot better to justify the difference at the moment as I really liked the MT-07.There is also much more MT-07 used bikes about so could get one cheaper if needed. Cars and bikes are generally much more expensive here compared to the UK
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