RE: Brabus E V12 | Spotted

RE: Brabus E V12 | Spotted

Thursday 1st August

Brabus E V12 | Spotted

Once upon a time this Brabus was £600k; now it looks a steal for the price of a Project 8...



All Brabus Mercedes are silly; there have been V8s in SLKs, tuned Smart cars, power kits for pickups and all manner of G Wagen witchcraft. Some, however, are even sillier than the rest. Which makes them borderline barmy - welcome, then, to the Brabus E V12.

Ten years old this year, the E V12 marked a new high point of hi jinks for Brabus. Taking the already punchy W212 E63 AMG as its base - the one using the old 6.2-litre warhorse of an engine - Brabus took a V8 out and put an even larger V12 in. An encouraging start; that 6.3-litre V12, itself a bored-out version of Merc's famed 6.0-litre, was then turbocharged. Twice. You can see where this is going...

The end result was 800hp, which doesn't seem all that exceptional nowadays, but a gargantuan 1,047lb ft of torque. That's more than twice the torque of an AMG C63; y'know, the twin-turbo, 4.0-litre V8 super-saloon. Madness. The torque was so prodigious, in fact, that it had to be limited to a mere 811lb ft - tsk, etc - to prevent the five-speed auto from exploding into a million pieces.


But more than that, Brabus set out to make the E V12 a record breaker, efforts at improving performance going beyond simply generating the most power all component parts could handle. Wider tracks gave it increased stability at speed, and an aero kit, including those incredible carbon rear wheel cowlings, helped it carve through the air. 124mph was reached in less than 10 seconds, and 186mph in 23.9; the top end was a claimed maximum of 230mph, improving on the Guinness-verified 227.2mph of the W211 version that made do with just 730hp. Braking was taken care of by enormous discs with six-piston calipers at the rear and 12-pot(!) items at the front.

Just 10 E V12s were made following a debut in September 2009, each costing €600,000 - more than half a million pounds back then. We'd assume that they were sold in Europe or further afield, given the left-hand drive and the E V12's suitability for going really very fast, but here we have one for sale in the UK. At Β£150,000 it's a lot less money than it would have cost the original owner 3,000 miles ago.


Sadly there's not much else in the advert about this car's history, it instead listing equipment like the 'Brabus high-performance limited-slip differential' - who'd have thought - the heated rear seats and the television tuner. That said, the E V12 is a car that speaks for itself quite a lot better than most. The vast majority won't get it, seeing an E-Class with some questionable carbon add-ons; the few in the know will see one of the most exciting (as well as rarest) cars ever to come from a company renowned for creating the maddest Mercedes around.

Alternatives? Precious few. Brabus has put the V12 in other saloons, though arguably without the mystique of this E V12. Or you could spend this sort of money on a G-Class. Amazingly it isn't the only Β£150k saloon with loads of power currently available, though, this Jaguar XE Project 8 surely making up for its 200hp power deficit with far greater dynamic finesse. But, again, they're probably not comparable.

In fact, as the advert states, this is probably one for the dedicated Mercedes collector, the E V12 there to sit alongside various Black Series cars, the AMG specials from before it was part of Mercedes and whatever SL derivatives that are also in the hanger. By being a bit ostentatious, grossly overpowered and relatively unknown, the E V12 arguably sits in the tightest cul-de-sac of niche appeal; for those who understand the charm - certainly not hard to see from here - it looks absolutely tremendous. See you on the Autobahn...


SPECIFICATION - BRABUS E V12
Engine:
6.3-litre, twin-turbo V12
Transmission: 5-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 800@5,500rpm
Torque (lb ft): 811@2,100rpm (limited)
0-62mph: 3.7 secs
Top speed: 217mph (limited, 230mph claimed)
MPG: 18
CO2: 372g/km
Price new: €600,000
Yours for: Β£149,500

See the original advert here.

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HumanSteamroller

Original Poster:

88 posts

21 months

Thursday 1st August
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An absolute eyesore thanks to those cowls, but undeniably a crazy piece of engineering. For the money I'd have something else, but you can't help admire the bonkers nature of it.

cerb4.5lee

12,174 posts

124 months

Thursday 1st August
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All that power/torque and the current Mercedes A45s is still only 2 tenths of a second behind it to 60. It just proves that weight can be the enemy when it comes to performance.

I more I think about it...the more I want an A45s! cool

gumsie

674 posts

153 months

Thursday 1st August
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Am I the only one thinking that with all that power and torque it should be quicker?
I know wheel spin will be a factor but still thought it might spend less time getting to the speed limiter.
My favourite brand but this one is not for me, even if it was cheaper. That rear cowling is soooooo ugly.

E65Ross

22,934 posts

156 months

Thursday 1st August
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cerb4.5lee said:
All that power/torque and the current Mercedes A45s is still only 2 tenths of a second behind it to 60. It just proves that weight can be the enemy when it comes to performance.

I more I think about it...the more I want an A45s! cool
I think that is more to do with 4WD traction and advances in tyre technology. Many heavier cars are very close to, say, the 0-60mph time of the McLaren F1.

MDL111

3,675 posts

121 months

Thursday 1st August
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24 sec to 300 kph seems quite fast to me, how does that compare to say an 812 or a 720S?

cerb4.5lee

12,174 posts

124 months

Thursday 1st August
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E65Ross said:
I think that is more to do with 4WD traction and advances in tyre technology.
Yes and I bet that at 60mph plus this will absolutely batter the A45.

Augustus Windsock

1,738 posts

99 months

Thursday 1st August
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Surely this was ‘designed’ / mutilated by Afzal Kahn and not Brabus....?

E65Ross

22,934 posts

156 months

Thursday 1st August
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MDL111 said:
24 sec to 300 kph seems quite fast to me, how does that compare to say an 812 or a 720S?
I think the 720S is around the 18 mark, but yes, 24 is still very fast!

cerb4.5lee said:
E65Ross said:
I think that is more to do with 4WD traction and advances in tyre technology.
Yes and I bet that at 60mph plus this will absolutely batter the A45.
Yep!

richboycoleman

5 posts

13 months

Thursday 1st August
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You wont be able to go faster in as much comfort. Imagine sitting in the back with the chairs reclined at 210mph+!!!

gigglebug

1,195 posts

66 months

Thursday 1st August
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It's a stonking car but I admit to never liking the look of the cowlings, maybe if they were body coloured it wouldn't look quite so bad. I think the most interesting thing for me, looking at the pictures in the advert, is realising how much the general architecture of the Mercedes interiors have improved since this model. Even a healthy dollop of Brabus loveliness on the inside can't quite lift this to the heights of what Mercedes now produce themselves. I'd still love to feel the shove in the back when you floor it whilst relaxing in that cabin though, I doubt that would ever get old!

MX6

4,086 posts

157 months

Thursday 1st August
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Interesting machine, it's cool that it exists and everything, but I'm not really sure what it's for?

I can get 800bhp supercars as at least you can take it on the track and stretch it's legs a bit. This isn't that sort of motor, but it doesn't seem especially practical either, not really something to pop to the shops in...

gigglebug

1,195 posts

66 months

Thursday 1st August
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MX6 said:
Interesting machine, it's cool that it exists and everything, but I'm not really sure what it's for?

I can get 800bhp supercars as at least you can take it on the track and stretch it's legs a bit. This isn't that sort of motor, but it doesn't seem especially practical either, not really something to pop to the shops in...
It is as practical as any other E class saloon from that era, what would prevent you going to the shops in it?

LukeyC

31 posts

97 months

Thursday 1st August
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Has there ever been a car that's depreciated more per mile?

I make that an epic £1,501 per mile!

hurstg01

2,643 posts

187 months

Thursday 1st August
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I love it - its so bonkers you have to love it for what it is smile

phast

103 posts

163 months

Thursday 1st August
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I'd be tempted to paint it yellow and sign up to Uber, might need to charge a wee bit more to cover the small increase in fuel costs over a E220d


Arsecati

265 posts

61 months

Thursday 1st August
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The rear cowlings are easily removed for every day use (as yes, they do look ridiculous). And as for comparisons on it's 0-60 time? Then get a £1000 Suzuki Gixxer and that will get you to 60 in under 3 seconds if that's your bag........... but I think Brabus had other priorities in mind when making this car (probably something to do with that 230mph claimed top speed!).

BIRMA

2,592 posts

138 months

Thursday 1st August
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There is no doubt Brabus engineering is of the very highest standard and this car is a shining example.
Having owned a V12 AMG I know the running costs with things like coil packs failing (a known weak spot) amongst other issues including proper servicing can make a grown man cry, but then if you can afford to pay this sort of money it probably won't trouble you too much.
I mentioned on another forum how hideous I thought the car looked and it was pointed out to me the rear wheel cover is all to do with high speed wind resistance. Still looks hideous though regardless.

Arsecati

265 posts

61 months

Thursday 1st August
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Though I'd prefer mine as an estate! winkhttps://youtu.be/Qr2DF-ty55w

MrGeoff

304 posts

116 months

Thursday 1st August
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LukeyC said:
Has there ever been a car that's depreciated more per mile?

I make that an epic £1,501 per mile!
It is strong in the depreciation department but not quite that strong, more £150 per mile, which is, let's be honest, pretty incredible!

Dynamic Space Wizard

618 posts

48 months

Thursday 1st August
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Arsecati said:
Though I'd prefer mine as an estate! winkhttps://youtu.be/Qr2DF-ty55w
That's not an estate, it's the same as this one yes