RE: 400hp BMW M140e hybrid due next year

RE: 400hp BMW M140e hybrid due next year

Friday 9th August 2019

400hp BMW M140e hybrid due next year

Rumours suggest that 1 Series will be given an electric boost in lieu of a proper M car



BMW is said to be planning a new take on its performanceΒ 1 Series variant next year, with a 400hp hybrid model waiting in the wings. The M140eΒ will offer the broadest mix of performance and efficiency in the 1 Series line-up by combining BMW’s M-fettled turbocharged 2.0-litre with a battery-fed electric motor, providingΒ 70 miles of zero-emission range – and arguablyΒ creatingΒ the first plug-inΒ hybrid of genuine hot hatchΒ calibre.

That’s according to a report byΒ Automobile Magazine, which said the four-cylinderΒ petrol – presumably the 2.0 from the upcoming M135i xDrive – will use water injection technology, withΒ the electric hardware contributing 80hp to its punch thanks to a 35kWh battery pack. Total output is pegged atΒ 400hp and 369lb ft of torque, which would make the five-door M140e about as potent as the Mercedes-AMG A45.


Like AMG, the M140e will use all-wheel drive, although it’s likely the electric motor will drive through the gearbox rather than provide direct twist to the back axle. There’s also a good chance that BMW will equip the model with something to rival the AMG’s drift mode and offer the flexibility (aka oversteer) delivered in the M5 and upcoming M3/M4. With the instantaneous torque provided by that electric motor, the prospect is certainly an exciting one.

Will that be enough to appease fans of the departed six-cylinder, rear-driven M140i? Probably not, because many of us loved that car (and could forgive its foibles) thanks to its comparably old school operation. But in a world where 0-62mph times and electric ranges are dominating new car specs sheets, an M140e would seem to fit the bill rather nicely. Anyway, for those who prefect things a little simpler, the 306hp pure petrol-powered M135i xDrive is not far from rivalling the AMG A35. Alternatively, Β£25k will get you a nearly new six-pot…


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BigChiefmuffinAgain

Original Poster:

328 posts

53 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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Nice idea but these cars never have that much boot space to start with.

Where are they going to put the batteries ? 70 mile range would, with current technology, require quite a lot ???

The Wookie

12,048 posts

183 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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Welcome to the 1800kg hot hatch

fernando the frog

298 posts

23 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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I know it's a cliche but if you removed the badges and stuck Merc ones on I wouldn't think anything of it

Greg the Fish

956 posts

21 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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Gosh that's ugly

modeller

369 posts

121 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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35kWh battery - I doubt it!

i3S has a 33kWh battery which is good for 110-150miles and weighs ~300kg

moldy

116 posts

60 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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mmm new A45s with aero pack in white not seen that colour before , oh hang on a minute , aplologies my mistake

Jon_S_Rally

825 posts

43 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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fernando the frog said:
I know it's a cliche but if you removed the badges and stuck Merc ones on I wouldn't think anything of it
Yes I found myself thinking that. It has more than a whiff of A45 about it!

Deep Thought

26,798 posts

152 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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Interesting take by BMW on the conundrum of needing a "M140" range topper....

British Beef

1,299 posts

120 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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Ugly, heavy, compromised practicality, and expensive..... but Im sure it will do 0-60 in under 4 sec so will likely sell!!

Regular BMWs are getting pretty unreliable these days, hate to think how reliable these will be out of warranty.

SOL111

627 posts

87 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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Forgive it's foibles?

Sorry but I couldn't. The B58 is a peach but the chassis not so much. So much promise but so little enjoyment.

If this delivers in the handling stakes then I could live with an alternate drive train.

aaron_2000

3,858 posts

38 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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It's impressive that they managed to make it so generic yet so ugly.

wab172uk

1,675 posts

182 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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You'd have to be a serious BMW fanboy to buy one of these, given the way it looks.

Leon R

680 posts

51 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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I always thought Audi would be the first to market with a hybrid hot hatch but it looks like BMW might beat them.

70 miles on battery power is good too.

kambites

59,163 posts

176 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
Nice idea but these cars never have that much boot space to start with.
The FAAR platform this is based on was designed explicitly to support electrification. I think it has space for under-floor batteries.

Chestrockwell

2,246 posts

112 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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I drove a friends mapped M140i last night and my god what a car, a sledge hammer, a hot rod hot hatch, It’s the last of its kind and I’ve been thinking about selling the Civic and buying one ever since I drove it.

This new one will be quicker, more economical etc but nowhere near as fun or brutal as this.


unsprung

4,596 posts

79 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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If it's true that the autonomous pods are coming for us, the capitulation, as it were, won't happen before we have some truly interesting and capable cars. Such is the sort of golden age that we're in, at the moment.

This particular BMW hatch / crossover may not be to everyone's taste, but nor should it be. From a product and available performance point of view, however, it's probably very good.

Horses for courses.


nickfrog

12,028 posts

172 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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wab172uk said:
You'd have to be a serious BMW fanboy to buy one of these, given the way it looks.
What if someone likes the way it looks, surely that's quite subjective. And what if they like the car and the looks are not that important to them?

nickfrog

12,028 posts

172 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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Chestrockwell said:
I drove a friends mapped M140i last night and my god what a car, a sledge hammer, a hot rod hot hatch, It’s the last of its kind and I’ve been thinking about selling the Civic and buying one ever since I drove it.

This new one will be quicker, more economical etc but nowhere near as fun or brutal as this.

The current car is good but not exactly the last word in fun or handling. I'd prefer a CTR for that.

Deep Thought

26,798 posts

152 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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nickfrog said:
The current car is good but not exactly the last word in fun or handling. I'd prefer a CTR for that.

As an owner - i'm fully inclined to agree.

Great straightline speed and lovely engine note, but not the worlds best handling thing.


evo2073

19 posts

94 months

Friday 9th August 2019
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Hybrids are pointless. The added power by the battery negating the extra weight.
I realise that the ICE is on its way out, ultimately, but these hybrid solutions are just bridging the gap while bringing no real world benefits.

And they are seriously trying to ape the A35 and A45 here. Let this die, please