Recommend me a drone

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Rider007

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213 posts

96 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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I'm wanting to get a drone for taking video / photo's of work sites, houses we work on and just having fun with. I'm keen on photography and mountain biking so like the idea of having the drone follow me along. Got a budget up to about £500 so not a toy type kids unit. I've had experience with RC helicopters / planes etc.

V10leptoquark

5,180 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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New Fimi X8 is a good effort in this price bracket.
Or 2nd hand Phantom 4.

Both have long range for the fun element and both have gimbles and GPS for stable HQ video.


Fimi X8 can only be bought from Hong Kong it would seem, the likes of GearBest and BangGood websites will sell them

2nd hand Phantom 4 can be bought from ebay in the UK.

(So may be bare that in mind given the current troubles in that part of the world).


JontyR

1,915 posts

169 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Rider007 said:
I'm wanting to get a drone for taking video / photo's of work sites, houses we work on and just having fun with. I'm keen on photography and mountain biking so like the idea of having the drone follow me along. Got a budget up to about £500 so not a toy type kids unit. I've had experience with RC helicopters / planes etc.
You need to go careful making comments like this as in theory you require a pfco for photography of work sites.

My suggestion would be a second hand unit and go for either a Mavic or a Phantom 4. The Mavic is more the sort that can track you on your bike and if you go with Mavic 2 you will be able to get better sensors so you dont crash the UAV whilst following.

gregs656

10,949 posts

183 months

Friday 23rd August 2019
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Is it actually worth owning a drone in Britain at the moment?

I have just picked up a Zerotech Dobby for GBP 60 - being light weight it means I don't need any kind of licence and can fly it sensibly where ever I like.

I believe DJI are coming out with a lighter Spark to meet the same criteria as 250g seems to be the common tipping point for needing a licence etc

Rider007

Original Poster:

213 posts

96 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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V10leptoquark said:
New Fimi X8 is a good effort in this price bracket.need to
Or 2nd hand Phantom 4.

Both have long range for the fun element and both have gimbles and GPS for stable HQ video.


Fimi X8 can only be bought from Hong Kong it would seem, the likes of GearBest and BangGood websites will sell them

2nd hand Phantom 4 can be bought from ebay in the UK.

(So may be bare that in mind given the current troubles in that part of the world).
Thanks , I'll look at those. One thing is puzzling me .Looking at dronesafe.uk it say's all drones over 250g from 30 Nov need to be registered and you need a licence, yet another website heliguy.com says if it's for hobby purposes you don't need a licence ?.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

101 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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Rider007 said:
V10leptoquark said:
New Fimi X8 is a good effort in this price bracket.need to
Or 2nd hand Phantom 4.

Both have long range for the fun element and both have gimbles and GPS for stable HQ video.


Fimi X8 can only be bought from Hong Kong it would seem, the likes of GearBest and BangGood websites will sell them

2nd hand Phantom 4 can be bought from ebay in the UK.

(So may be bare that in mind given the current troubles in that part of the world).
Thanks , I'll look at those. One thing is puzzling me .Looking at dronesafe.uk it say's all drones over 250g from 30 Nov need to be registered and you need a licence, yet another website heliguy.com says if it's for hobby purposes you don't need a licence ?.
No, but you should still obey the CAA rules on proximity, landowner permissions, control of area - thing is, unless you're on a farm and have full permissions, the chances are you're not legally allowed to fly due to one of the stipulations. Even places like open countryside, moors etc... are still owned by the National Trust, National Parks and they usually have a no-fly policy unless on specific business, fully licenced and insured.

Not saying you can't, just saying be careful.

eltawater

3,123 posts

181 months

Monday 26th August 2019
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A few things here:

1) if you own a drone weighing 250g or more, hobbyist or business, you will need to be registered with the CAA from November this year.

2) Seperately from above, if you wish to use one irrespective of weight for commercial purposes, you must have permission for commercial operations from the CAA. It's not a licence as such but a granting of permission.

3) regardless of those, you should try to adhere to the drone code and the rules about land permissions, crowds etc

Those are very loose interpretations of the rules from me as a novice and I'm sure the better educated will set me straight shortly.

As others have mentioned, permission to fly even as an amateur for leisure purposes in the UK is a bit of minefield as many areas are blanket restricted under model aircraft byelaws and there is no one true map for permissable areas. The drone assist app is ok but it misses national trust, forestry commission and country estates to name a few.

That's before you get into the issue of wind conditions being more unpredictable at differing altitudes which will have a detrimental effect on battery flying time and stability etc.

tight fart

2,942 posts

275 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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Any recommendations for a first drone, taking pictures for fun, sub £200?

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

83 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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Mavic Air 2 - About £750.00 over budget mind but it is brilliant.

blueg33

36,378 posts

226 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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Registration for an over 250g drone is easy.

I am registered

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

267 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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MAVIC MINI

then no hassle from any one due to being 249g

Brother D

3,763 posts

178 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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eltawater said:
A few things here:

1) if you own a drone weighing 250g or more, hobbyist or business, you will need to be registered with the CAA from November this year.

2) Seperately from above, if you wish to use one irrespective of weight for commercial purposes, you must have permission for commercial operations from the CAA. It's not a licence as such but a granting of permission.

3) regardless of those, you should try to adhere to the drone code and the rules about land permissions, crowds etc

Those are very loose interpretations of the rules from me as a novice and I'm sure the better educated will set me straight shortly.

As others have mentioned, permission to fly even as an amateur for leisure purposes in the UK is a bit of minefield as many areas are blanket restricted under model aircraft byelaws and there is no one true map for permissable areas. The drone assist app is ok but it misses national trust, forestry commission and country estates to name a few.

That's before you get into the issue of wind conditions being more unpredictable at differing altitudes which will have a detrimental effect on battery flying time and stability etc.
Are they including model aircraft/helicopters/gliders under this as well? They are trying something similar over here, but there's been some pushback by model aircraft clubs

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

199 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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Brother D said:
Are they including model aircraft/helicopters/gliders under this as well? They are trying something similar over here, but there's been some pushback by model aircraft clubs
Probably not, because an RC plane wasnt shown on the news shutting down an airport, and terrorists dont use gliders. /sarcasmoff

In reality you could load a much more dangerous payload onto a plane and fly further for longer. But when has common sense been part of the government.

blueg33

36,378 posts

226 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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The_Jackal said:
Brother D said:
Are they including model aircraft/helicopters/gliders under this as well? They are trying something similar over here, but there's been some pushback by model aircraft clubs
Probably not, because an RC plane wasnt shown on the news shutting down an airport, and terrorists dont use gliders. /sarcasmoff

In reality you could load a much more dangerous payload onto a plane and fly further for longer. But when has common sense been part of the government.
Its all a bit stupid - if you plan to use a drone for criminal intent, you are hardly going to register yourself as the pilot and mark the drone with your registration details! Registration simply would not stop any criminal intent, its just a sop to pretend something has been done.

Smollet

10,746 posts

192 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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Porsche911R said:
MAVIC MINI

then no hassle from any one due to being 249g
Yup.

eltawater

3,123 posts

181 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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blueg33 said:
The_Jackal said:
Brother D said:
Are they including model aircraft/helicopters/gliders under this as well? They are trying something similar over here, but there's been some pushback by model aircraft clubs
Probably not, because an RC plane wasnt shown on the news shutting down an airport, and terrorists dont use gliders. /sarcasmoff

In reality you could load a much more dangerous payload onto a plane and fly further for longer. But when has common sense been part of the government.
Its all a bit stupid - if you plan to use a drone for criminal intent, you are hardly going to register yourself as the pilot and mark the drone with your registration details! Registration simply would not stop any criminal intent, its just a sop to pretend something has been done.
Yes, model aircraft are included if over the weight limit:

https://www.caa.co.uk/Consumers/Unmanned-aircraft/...

tight fart

2,942 posts

275 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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Nothing under £200 then?

_Hoppers

1,247 posts

67 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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Smollet said:
Porsche911R said:
MAVIC MINI

then no hassle from any one due to being 249g
Yup.
The sub 250g mass only means you don't have to register. You still cannot fly within a congested area, over 400ft etc

CubanPete

3,630 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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blueg33 said:
The_Jackal said:
Brother D said:
Are they including model aircraft/helicopters/gliders under this as well? They are trying something similar over here, but there's been some pushback by model aircraft clubs
Probably not, because an RC plane wasnt shown on the news shutting down an airport, and terrorists dont use gliders. /sarcasmoff

In reality you could load a much more dangerous payload onto a plane and fly further for longer. But when has common sense been part of the government.
Its all a bit stupid - if you plan to use a drone for criminal intent, you are hardly going to register yourself as the pilot and mark the drone with your registration details! Registration simply would not stop any criminal intent, its just a sop to pretend something has been done.
There are two arguments though.

The first one is history, RC planes, helicopters and gliders have been around for a long time.

The second is skill level. RC planes, helicopters and gliders take a long time to learn to fly, and can't easily be done in a casual or crowded environment. A drone can be buzzing around an airport or stadium or someone's bedroom window on its first battery charge.

eltawater

3,123 posts

181 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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CubanPete said:
RC planes, helicopters and gliders take a long time to learn to fly, and can't easily be done in a casual or crowded environment. A drone can be buzzing around an airport or stadium or someone's bedroom window on its first battery charge.
Not strictly true on the helicopters, there's an argument brewing on one of the local facebook groups as someone's kid has crashed theirs into a neighbour's garden .....