RE: Ferrari Daytona | Showpiece of the Week

RE: Ferrari Daytona | Showpiece of the Week

Monday 2nd September 2019

Ferrari Daytona | Showpiece of the Week

The early 1970s are not known as a highpoint of style; the Daytona is the exception



It's hard to imagine nowadays, with Ferrari Daytonas like this one for sale at half a million pounds, but once upon a time the 365 GTB/4 was seen as a bit old-hat, and not all that desirable. Most will probably be aware that the Lamborghini Miura was the Daytona's downfall, offering a mid-engined V12 layout for a supercar that made the Ferrari's front mounted engine look terribly passé. Formula 1 cars had made the switch by the time both arrived in late 1960s, and now road cars were doing the same - the Daytona hadn't.

Ferrari then spent the following decades putting 12 cylinders behind the driver, various BBs, Testarossas and 512s adopting a layout that came to define the modern supercar. V12s in the front became the preserve of the GT cruisers - 400s, 412s, 456s - and it looked like the more aggressive Ferrari with the engine ahead of the driver was done. But then the 550 Maranello turned up in the mid-1990s, turned expectations of front-engined Ferraris on their head, and the Daytona was of interest again. The legacy was further embellished by the staggering cars that have followed the 550: 599, f12, 812 Superfast. We can probably all agree that V12, front-engined Ferraris are now among the best cars in the world.


That said, much more has helped the Daytona's cause in recent history than just Ferrari making vaguely similar cars again. Its spectacular design for one thing; easily among the best exponents of the front-engined, rear-drive template, and unarguably one of the most stylish classic Ferraris. The motorsport element contributed, too, with privately entered Competiziones taking class wins at Le Mans during the 70s and thrilling spectators ever since in historic events. Oh yes, and don't forget about the Cannonball victory in 1971, as good an advert as you'll ever find for GT credentials - Brock Yates and Dan Gurney averaged 80mph across 2,876 miles.

All of which means the Daytona is now remembered more fondly as an iconic Ferrari V12, rather than the slightly outdated supercar it may have once seemed. And it has aged fantastically. Oh sure, everyone says it can be a bit of a pig to drive at low speed, but since when did cool care about practicality?


This Daytona looks a gem. A lot of GTB/4s seen are, predictably enough, Rosso Corsa, with a few dark blues and blacks as well. Silver has to be rarer, yet just as well suited to the aesthetic. Sold new in 1972 by Maranello Concessionaires, it's spent most of its life in Singapore; restored at the beginning of this decade and having covered just 18,000 miles in 47 years; surely as good an example as is going to be found.

What more do you need to know? As time passes - the Daytona itself already 50 years old, don't forget - and front-engined Ferraris continue to evolve, so the mystique around this car will grow. While it will never have the cachet of the earlier 250s and 275s, this final evolution of the 365 absolutely deserves its recognition and respect. In fact, a former Daytona-owning PHer probably puts it best: "Make no mistake, there are fantastic cars (F355, 550), but few truly great cars. This is one of the greats."


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mnx42

Original Poster:

215 posts

163 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Simply gorgeous !

Turbobanana

6,269 posts

201 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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I think these look better in the flesh than in pictures: not sure why, but however skilled the snapper is, they never seem to leap off the page. See one in real life though, and they're just gorgeous.

I'll have mine in Blu Chiaro please with tan interior, and with the alloys rather than wires.

Dinoboy

2,499 posts

217 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Always loved them and as previously said they just look so classy in the flesh.

emperorburger

1,484 posts

66 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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"The early 1970s are not known as a highpoint of style"

Cobblers

Turbobanana

6,269 posts

201 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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emperorburger said:
"The early 1970s are not known as a highpoint of style"

Cobblers
Absolutely. The following were all rubbish:

- De Tomaso Pantera
- Lamborghini Uracco
- Alfa Romeo Montreal
- Range Rover
- Alfasud
- Mercedes R107
- BMW 5 Series
- Lancia Stratos
- Maserati Khamsin

OK, some / most were designed in the 1960s I guess.

Leins

9,468 posts

148 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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I prefer the looks of a Testarossa boxedin
Probably as a result of watching too many of the later series of Miami Vice as a kid


4rephill

5,040 posts

178 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Errr.....The Ferrari 365 GTB/4 "Daytona" was first produced in 1968, so it is therefore a 1960's design - Not a 1970's design!

dinkel

26,945 posts

258 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Miura and Daytona side to side:
https://vimeo.com/355579326

Dave Hedgehog

14,555 posts

204 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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4rephill said:
Errr.....The Ferrari 365 GTB/4 "Daytona" was first produced in 1968, so it is therefore a 1960's design - Not a 1970's design!
and there's loads of fantastic looking cars from the 70s


CharlieAlphaMike

1,137 posts

105 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Turbobanana said:
emperorburger said:
"The early 1970s are not known as a highpoint of style"

Cobblers
Absolutely. The following were all rubbish:

- De Tomaso Pantera
- Lamborghini Uracco
- Alfa Romeo Montreal
- Range Rover
- Alfasud
- Mercedes R107
- BMW 5 Series
- Lancia Stratos
- Maserati Khamsin

OK, some / most were designed in the 1960s I guess.
- Flares
- Platform Shoes
- Bay City Rollers
- Tank Tops
- Gary Glitter nono

rofl

s m

23,225 posts

203 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Love the SD1 coupé

RDMcG

19,142 posts

207 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Beautiful car. Like many older cars they are so much smaller in reality but the proportions are so good that it does not show up in pics.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,062 posts

98 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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True they do look a lot smaller in reality then one would normally expect.

And at low speeds, they were, as mentioned, "a pig to drive" - very heavy steering.

I guess that though cars were smaller back then, men were stronger.....

Turbobanana

6,269 posts

201 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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CharlieAlphaMike said:
Turbobanana said:
emperorburger said:
"The early 1970s are not known as a highpoint of style"

Cobblers
Absolutely. The following were all rubbish:

- De Tomaso Pantera
- Lamborghini Uracco
- Alfa Romeo Montreal
- Range Rover
- Alfasud
- Mercedes R107
- BMW 5 Series
- Lancia Stratos
- Maserati Khamsin

OK, some / most were designed in the 1960s I guess.
- Flares
- Platform Shoes
- Bay City Rollers
- Tank Tops
- Gary Glitter nono

rofl
Yeah, fair enough. I guess the point was that PH journos consistently seem to come across as too young / narrow-minded to appreciate anything designed before the advent of the Playstation.

Groovy; peace out, man. Etc smile

chelme

1,353 posts

170 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Lovely looking cars. Shame they have reputation for driving like a tank...heavy and cumbersome.

sideways man

1,316 posts

137 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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My dream car, when I was a teenager. Probably helped by autocar doing 174 mph in one, an incredible speed back then. It was the fastest road car for a very long time.
It also had a starring role in The Gumball Rally film along with an AC Cobra, a must see film for any car lover!

Edited by sideways man on Monday 2nd September 17:42

Augustus Windsock

3,369 posts

155 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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£550k?
Dear God.
I remember seeing a blue one at Sytner Nottingham in the early 80’s for less than £30k
I can’t rememebr the exact figure as I’d gone with my dad to look at an Alpina but I do remember that those little external door catches were causing stress cracks in the door skin and the quality of the bright work around the screens and doors was appealing.
I absolutely adore these but have never been fortunate enough to have a ride in one. As such I’d rather buy a 550 Maranello, use and enjoy it lightly, and hopefully still have an appreciating asset...

Julian Thompson

2,543 posts

238 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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The question I would like to ask of the non multi millionaires is - would you sell your whole car collection to own just this?

Say you had 5-10 cars approaching £4/500k in value that covered every automotive base are there any of you that would bin them all off just to have one of these behind the roller shutter?

LotusOmega375D

7,625 posts

153 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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I’ve only been driven in one Daytona. This one with 450bhp...

https://talacrest.com/Ferrari-Sales/Ferrari-365-GT...

JD2329

480 posts

168 months

Monday 2nd September 2019
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Looks lovely in silver although I prefer Cromadora wheels on these.