RE: Watch the Bugatti Chiron make history

RE: Watch the Bugatti Chiron make history

Monday 2nd September

Watch the Bugatti Chiron make history

One day a production car will go quicker than 304.77mph. But Bugatti will always have been first



What more can we say about Bugatti's waltz through the 300mph barrier? "At that kind of speed, normally aeroplanes are flying in the air," said Stefan Ellrott, head of development at Bugatti. That's it in a nutshell. And when you remember that the same Chiron could be given number plates and happily driven to the shops, you remember just how ticklishly difficult that nutshell is to crack.

Also worth noting - as a PHer did impressively early on - that 84 years ago tomorrow marks the day Sir Malcolm Campbell broke the 300mph barrier in the Campbell-Railton Blue Bird at Bonneville. That car, of course, was built solely for one purpose, and invested with a 36.7-litre 2,300hp Rolls-Royce R V12 engine to achieve it.

The Bugatti Chiron in question has 700hp less from its quad-turbo W16 - plus nice seats and wing mirrors and doors to put them on. Naturally it's a testament to Bugatti that it has achieved the feat with such limitations - whether it's an 'official' record or not. It has arguably gone about it the right way, too: the barrier is broken, whichever firm follows them must now accept second place in the history books.

Or, as Andy Wallace says: "Wow, guys, what a fantastic car. Thank you."


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GolfJay

Original Poster:

8 posts

102 months

Monday 2nd September
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Is this a "Production" car? The rear end looks completely different. Also, is this particular "Chiron" available for sale?

frayz

1,338 posts

105 months

Monday 2nd September
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I don't care if its a "production spec" or the whats, whys and wherefors, if it should be allowed and "whats the point" blah blah blah

This is fapping amazing and a stunning achievement too all involved. biggrin

kambites

57,428 posts

167 months

Monday 2nd September
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GolfJay said:
Is this a "Production" car? The rear end looks completely different. Also, is this particular "Chiron" available for sale?
It's not the current Chiron production car (slightly different aero, a taller top gear and some additional safety stuff) but they are apparently going to make a car in this spec (or very close) available for sale.

Edited by kambites on Monday 2nd September 17:54

Ph1listine

846 posts

46 months

Monday 2nd September
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Astonishing.

gizard

2,153 posts

229 months

Monday 2nd September
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Bonkers ….. biggrin

unsprung

3,563 posts

70 months

Monday 2nd September
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Ph1listine said:
Astonishing.
+1

One could probably fill an hour-long lecture on the physics of the tyres, alone.

cooling

aero friction

suspension dynamics

truly another world

coffee


g4ry13

7,978 posts

201 months

Monday 2nd September
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I wonder how long those tyres would last at that speed.

Jonny_

2,572 posts

153 months

Monday 2nd September
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frayz said:
I don't care if its a "production spec" or the whats, whys and wherefors, if it should be allowed and "whats the point" blah blah blah

This is fapping amazing and a stunning achievement too all involved. biggrin
This, times a million. Awesome feat of engineering and of driving skill.


Leggy

863 posts

168 months

Monday 2nd September
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Holy F*ck!

GroundEffect

11,501 posts

102 months

Monday 2nd September
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It's the Frankfurt IAA motorshow this week, this launches just before the start of it...what's the betting there'll be a special edition of 10-20 cars that match that spec?


velocgee

423 posts

92 months

Monday 2nd September
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Had to check the date wasn’t April 1st!

Plate spinner

13,458 posts

146 months

Monday 2nd September
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Serious question my son just asked - need a physics boffin...

If you were running at 300mph and stuck your arm straight out of the drivers widow, would it break off?!

Haha, no, I’ve no idea why this was his first thought either hehe

the_hood

428 posts

140 months

Monday 2nd September
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Words aren't really adequate to describe what an achievement this is.

WheelyTyred

28 posts

25 months

dibbers006

7,045 posts

164 months

Monday 2nd September
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Plate spinner said:
If you were running at 300mph and stuck your arm straight out of the drivers widow, would it break off?!
Okay, I have no idea what I'm doing but here goes... (happy to be corrected)

300MPH equates to approx. 135m/s acting on say 0.5m2 of arm.

Gives you over 10,000N/m2 of pressure.

Which could be stated as 1000+ kgf/m2. Making that over a tonne of force acting on the arm! yikes

Bones break at around 4,000N/m.

So, ya. He broked. Apparently it requires about 5,000N/m to tear a limb off scratchchin

Fun Fact, someone did the maths on Batman / Ironman / Superman stopping a freefalling human and the consequences on the body!


Sparkzz

371 posts

82 months

Monday 2nd September
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YESSSS.
cool

Zygersaf

11 posts

7 months

Monday 2nd September
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frayz said:
I don't care if its a "production spec" or the whats, whys and wherefors, if it should be allowed and "whats the point" blah blah blah

This is fapping amazing and a stunning achievement too all involved. biggrin
I think the reason it matters is that some aftermarket tuners achieved 300mph earlier this year during a standing 1 mile run with a tuned ford GT. So yeah cool this one is road legal, but if it is only "production spec" and isn't actually the one you can drive on the road then what doe sit matter? They were 6 months too late to get that record! Unless this is some "ultimate spec" car that you can actually buy the achievement is "meh" in my opinion. Like yeah, well done Bugatti and your infinite VAG R&D money you managed to reach 300mph with 6 months after some Americans that put a few hundred K into a 40 year old car!

DoubleD

9,222 posts

54 months

Monday 2nd September
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frayz said:
I don't care if its a "production spec" or the whats, whys and wherefors, if it should be allowed and "whats the point" blah blah blah

This is fapping amazing and a stunning achievement too all involved. biggrin
It is amazing and its good to have positive comments for once rather than the usual moaning.

Striple

93 posts

87 months

Monday 2nd September
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after having done 150mph on a motorbike and knowing how fast that feels, this must have been so exciting/scary for the driver!!

Arsecati

314 posts

63 months

Tuesday 3rd September
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Well they are not the first 'road legal' car to go over 300mph (that's IF this car is actually road legal with all the mods they've done), as a few Texan Tuners in the US have already taken a 13 year old Ford GT over the 300mph about 6 months ago. And it's also not the first 'production' car either, as you can't actually buy it. And before anyone slobbers on about the 'near identical cars' being made available for sale after they're unveiling in Frankfurt, just ask one simple question: 'will it go over 300mph, mister?' And the answer will be no. This will always be the one and only version of the car that will go over 300mph, so for those who DO go buy the 'Special Super Speed Edition' (or whatever they will call it), what actually are you buying? An homage? A tribute? A pastiche? Whatever it is, it WON'T be the fastest production car or road legal car you can buy: that honour will still be with Koenigsegg.......... for the moment anyway!