Anyone any good at vintage Citizen watches?
Anyone any good at vintage Citizen watches?
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DailyHack

Original Poster:

3,956 posts

129 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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Any idea on what model this is? Always liked it, I picked it up a while ago for less that £15 - seemed to me to be worth more than that...



Mogsmex

520 posts

253 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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no idea, but that's a lovely looking watch smile great buy

mikeveal

4,923 posts

268 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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Did you get it from ebay? From a seller in India? Mumbai by any chance?

In my opinion it's been redialled, it's not the worst I've seen, but it is a quite crude.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but assuming I right, I'm afraid it won't have looked anything like that when it left the factory. So the chances of identifying it are slim to nothing.

DailyHack

Original Poster:

3,956 posts

129 months

Tuesday 8th October 2019
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Nah not from India or eBay, it was in a shop, caught my attention - came without strap

Wouldn't buy anything from India anyway on eBay

mikeveal

4,923 posts

268 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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I wonder where the dealer got it from wink.

You like it, so that's all that counts. Enjoy it.

seefarr

1,679 posts

204 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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It's a pretty cool looking Citizen Eagle 7. This website seems to suggest that there is a huge variety in designs:

https://iknowwatches.com/citizen-eagle-7-review/

Another one the same as your for sale in Sweden for not many Kr:

https://www.tradera.com/item/190202/368401677/vint...

mikeveal said:
In my opinion it's been redialled, it's not the worst I've seen, but it is a quite crude.
Would you mind sharing what the obvious giveaways are that it's been re-dialed? I'm not sure someone would spend time and money on a watch, ship it around the world, sell it for the massive total of £15 and show any sort of profit!

mikeveal

4,923 posts

268 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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seefarr said:
mikeveal said:
In my opinion it's been redialled, it's not the worst I've seen, but it is a quite crude.
Would you mind sharing what the obvious giveaways are that it's been re-dialed? I'm not sure someone would spend time and money on a watch, ship it around the world, sell it for the massive total of £15 and show any sort of profit!
Purely and simply the quality. Click the original image to open in thumbsnap, then click again for the full resolution version. The OP's picture is very good.
Take a look at the quality of the white printing. The word CITIZEN, the white band around the date window, the chapter ring, the eagle logo...
The whole thing is way below the quality you'd expect from a watch factory and about on par with the Mumbai frankenwatch creators.

Citizen aren't highly regarded now, yet they have in the past produced some really very good pieces. About the period this watch was (first) made they were making some very nice stuff. Way above the quality seen here.

I agree, there's no profit in this for the seller. Maybe he just decided to sell it on, maybe he got a lower price for a job lot. The delivered from India price would have been roughly what the OP paid and is roughly what the watch is worth. If the OP's happy with it, everyone's a winner.

SergeyKlim

1 posts

69 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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If still relevant - judging by the information from http://watchmakernotes.com/, this is Citizen Eagle 7. They write that a different design and the construction of one model are possible.

r159

2,427 posts

92 months

Friday 17th January 2020
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It’s the still respected citizen answer to the Seiko 5, but 2 better.

eccles

14,066 posts

240 months

Saturday 18th January 2020
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I'd have thought one of the biggest giveaways would be the Seiko hands fitted to a Citizen watch!

RiggaTheMighty

145 posts

92 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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Technically, it is a fake watch. Or referred to as a Frankenstein.
The case is a case by citizen.
The movement will be a citizen calibre.
The hands will be citizen hands.

But none of them are supposed to be together in that combination.
As already suggested, the dial is not genuine, isn’t even necessarily a citizen dial.

It is 100% an Indian amalgamated concoction.
On average, I pay £3/4 each for them, with free postage from India.
I buy them sometimes for movement parts, to repair customers watches as it’s cheaper than purchasing the required parts from citizen.

What matters is that you like it.
That’s all that ever matters really.

eccles

14,066 posts

240 months

Monday 20th January 2020
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RiggaTheMighty said:
Technically, it is a fake watch. Or referred to as a Frankenstein.
The case is a case by citizen.
The movement will be a citizen calibre.
The hands will be citizen hands.

But none of them are supposed to be together in that combination.
As already suggested, the dial is not genuine, isn’t even necessarily a citizen dial.

It is 100% an Indian amalgamated concoction.
On average, I pay £3/4 each for them, with free postage from India.
I buy them sometimes for movement parts, to repair customers watches as it’s cheaper than purchasing the required parts from citizen.

What matters is that you like it.
That’s all that ever matters really.
The hands are Seiko, not Citizen.