Ruddy rodents
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55palfers

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6,311 posts

190 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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Seems I have rodents in the outhouse, happily feasting on my wild-bird seed. Seed now in a bin.

Any suggestions as to the most deadly bait please. Little Nippers don't seem to be successful. They keep swiping the bait (Twix)

I've tried some stuff from B&Q, but 15 tablets later, they're still around


anonymous-user

80 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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They're grim, but I'd be getting some of the glue boards they use for Rats

My mate works for Rentokil and says they are the most effective, although sometimes they'll chew their own legs off to escape (I did say they were grim)

55palfers

Original Poster:

6,311 posts

190 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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Interesting - So that means you've got an angry rat stuck to a plank?

Then what?

Buy an airgun?

PositronicRay

28,797 posts

209 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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55palfers said:
Interesting - So that means you've got an angry rat stuck to a plank?

Then what?

Buy an airgun?
Eventually it dies, and starts starts to decompose. Best to throw the plank away, you won't manage to scrape it off.

anonymous-user

80 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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55palfers said:
Interesting - So that means you've got an angry rat stuck to a plank?

Then what?

Buy an airgun?
I hadn't actually considered that, he normally sets them up and goes back a week or so later so they're dead and yeah get disposed along with the boards

55palfers

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6,311 posts

190 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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Outhouse contains freezers, tumble-dryer and tinned goods so Mrs 55 will be in and out regularly.
Can't see a planked rat and her Ladyship really hitting it off somehow.

arguti

1,859 posts

212 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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This is the stuff we had to resort to but left dead rats under cars, workbenches, etc!

https://www.pest-expert.com/pest-expert-formula-b-...

Basically some grain soaked in rat poison and used alongside traps and glue pads as mentioned above - if using the glue pads, use a punch to make a hole in the corner and then thread a coat hanger through the hole to secure to workbench leg or similar, same with traps.

the advice online is so accurate but easily overlooked, you need to leave traps angled correctly along rat runs, not in middle of floor, all methods will have some success but rats are wary of new things, i left unsprung, unbaited traps for a few days, then introduced baited traps then set them a few days alter if that makes sense.

Buy a pack of nitrile gloves as well for handling poison, decomposing rats from traps you had forgot you had set!

A semi-feral cat has kind of moved in at the foot of our property (where we moved the chicken hutch) and an owl seems to have taken residence and and since then, not seen a rat in months!




Edited by arguti on Wednesday 9th October 16:27

acme

3,033 posts

224 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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My experience is that the stuff you and I as the public can get simply isn’t powerful enough. You need a ‘friend’ (farmer) with a licence to buy the powerful stuff. Over the past few years they’ve tightened up on what you can buy so it’s become weaker.

I use the local council guy, it’s cheap enough & he’s got the powerful stuff. Problem is if you live in the countryside it’s an occupational hazard in my opinion!

Only professionals can officially get sticky boards. They’re good but as said rodents will chew their own legs to escape. If they’re alive the board will fold, fold it & stamp on it to put it out if it’s misery.

Having caught seven mice in the past week in the garage I too would appreciate any suggestions. I’ll also be using ammonia as apparently it smells similar to cat urine so puts them off. We’ll see!


500swk

144 posts

89 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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barrel trap is what you want,had over 40 of them in it in the past 2 weeks

Cheib

25,242 posts

201 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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Don’t know if they are powerful enough for rats but we use electric traps for mice and they work really well....bit of Nutella in the tray and we catch them pretty regularly. Dead mouse is then thrown on the lawn and a Red Kite will normally have it within minutes.

numtumfutunch

5,146 posts

164 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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A cat?

Our gaff is rodent heaven with coal chutes, wiring conduits, air bricks, etc etc etc yet the only mice and rats we ever see are dead ones on the door step. And TBH not many of them.

Over the years our cats have varied from natural born killers to Bagpuss clones.

The vermin must be able to smell 'cat' and decide its a bad place to hang out. In fact the neighbours often describe the current psycho hunting rats from under their chicken coop.

Cheers

eldar

25,044 posts

222 months

Wednesday 9th October 2019
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numtumfutunch said:
A cat?

Our gaff is rodent heaven with coal chutes, wiring conduits, air bricks, etc etc etc yet the only mice and rats we ever see are dead ones on the door step. And TBH not many of them.

Over the years our cats have varied from natural born killers to Bagpuss clones.

The vermin must be able to smell 'cat' and decide its a bad place to hang out. In fact the neighbours often describe the current psycho hunting rats from under their chicken coop.

Cheers
If you don't like cats, a Jack Russel Terrier is a rat eliminator first class.

mikeveal

5,069 posts

276 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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I used poison from https://www.pest-expert.com/, it worked fine, it was definitely stronger than shop bought poison. They claim a single dose is fatal to a rat.

However, the rats I had were not in the house, just the garden.The poison works by making the rats bleed internally, an anticoagulant. The rat will either be driven to water by thirst, or will return to the nest to die. Should the nest be somewhere beneath your floorboards or in your cavities, this is the last thing you want. Sure you'll remove the rodent problem, but the stench of the decomposing carcass won't be fun.


Glue boards are a last resort as they are very cruel. To use them effectively you need to identify the access and egress points to your house and place them there. That way no more rats enter and you eliminate those inside. Once they're gone, block the holes and use poison. Glue boards need checking every few hours really.

Traps can also be very effective and are a lot less cruel than the glue board.

sospan

2,755 posts

248 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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A company I worked for had a pest control employee. I was our factory’s local link to him. Tobacco based so our needs were high, similar to food but with the added problem of Tobacco Beetle as they ate tobacco...expensive!
We had Rentokill on contract and he left notes in the humane traps they set as a means of ensuring they complied with checks. Poison means the rats died eventually but what happens to the bodies? Where? Decomposition, smell, mess. Carrion eaters get poisoned.
He inspected factories for access of rats/mice/ birds/bugs in general and holes sealed as much as possible.
His tips......
Use humane traps. Use chocolate(Nutella) as bait. Positioning was crucial. Rats don’t like open spaces but use peripheries at walls, cupboards etc. so don’t put traps in open spaces but against the edge.If they encounter a new obstruction they are wary so they avoid them for a while so traps become more effective after they pass rat scrutiny.
Do a check of your house for gaps, holes, openings. Fill them up with appropriate materials. It is surprising how small a hole they can get through! Built in vents need to be rodent proof.

milu

2,506 posts

292 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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I’ve been dealing this week with mice in a car.
Not sure if I bought it with them present or if they came over the last weekend when I first saw evidence.
The car had been in a barn for 2 weeks before I took it on
Anyway I’ve used glue boards which I appreciate is cruel but I’ve got to get em.
6 so far!
I’m no expert but they look adult to me so would this be likely that several adults move into one car?
Of course I’m also wondering if babies have arrived before the adults died.
It’s a right pain

ziggy328

1,369 posts

240 months

Thursday 10th October 2019
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55palfers said:
Interesting - So that means you've got an angry rat stuck to a plank?

Then what?

Buy an airgun?
Lol what an image :big laugh:

Dog Star

17,439 posts

194 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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How the hell is that allowed to be sold?! That's absolutely inhumane on every level. Awful.

We had an issue with a rat family arriving when Mrs DS started waaaay overfilling the bird feeders. Stopped filling bird feeders. rats moved away.

Only subsequent rat experience was having a live one dropped on my face at 3am by my beloved cat. No, I didn't kill it. I let it go in the garden to go back to whereever it came from.

dingg

4,516 posts

245 months

Friday 11th October 2019
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Inhumane maybe, but they are vermin and I for one are not too bothered which way they end up being despatched.

55palfers

Original Poster:

6,311 posts

190 months

Saturday 12th October 2019
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DEF-CON 4

Deployed.


crowfield

461 posts

184 months

Saturday 12th October 2019
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Def con 4 didnt work for me. Used to see 2 rats almost every day running along the rear boundary, and tried standard traps, electronic traps, cheap poison from the garden centres. I ended up buying Pest Expert poison from Amazon which worked well. The rats get very thirsty and stop to drink from my pond where my other purchase ( .22 air rifle ) finished them off with a shot to the head. Haven't seen any signs of a rat in the garden for nearly a year now.

Prior to this, I was buying packet after packet of "Big Cheese" blocks which they just ran off with ( I reckon they were using them as giant Lego bricks to build a new home with ) as they didn't seem to poison them at all.