RE: Lamborghini teases 830hp V12 hypercar

RE: Lamborghini teases 830hp V12 hypercar

Tuesday 11th February

Lamborghini fires up 830hp V12 | Update

Circuit-only Aventador is apparently coming along nicely...



The idea of a track-only hypercar built on the bones of the Aventador had us intrigued when we learnt about it a few months ago. Now, with its debut in sight, Lamborghini Squadra Corse has treated us to a clip of its V12 firing up in the Sant'Agata Bolognese factory this week. Hearing the naturally-aspirated 6.5-litre, and knowing that it develops 830hp, has suddenly re-piqued our interest.

Sure, the new model won't be alone in the super-niche circuit-only niche - nor even the solo entry in the atmospheric V12 segment. But something tells us that Squadra Corse is cooking up something special for what might yet prove to be the engine's swansong. And that something is our ears and eyes.

Otherwise, Lamborghini still isn't giving a huge amount away: the car will feature an aluminium front frame and a carbon fibre monocoque, alongside a large rear wing, airscoop on the roof and a racing hood with dual air intakes, and it gets an 'innovative' self-locking diff for better drivability on track. We await a name and much else besides...


Lamborghini has taken advantage of the final round of its in-house racing series to (partially) show off two upcoming models. While the European, Asian and North American iterations of the marque's Super Trofeo championship came to a close on track, a racer of a different kind was debuted off it. The Urus ST-X, set to compete in the world's first 'Super SUV' series next year, uses the same twin-turbo V8 engine as the road car, yet is 25 per cent lighter thanks to a new structure. But we already knew about that.

The bigger news comes in the form of a shadowy silhouette, said by Lamborghini to show a new track-only hypercar set to arrive next year. Despite having been developed by the manufacturer's Squadra Corse department the car won't see competition, but will benefit from a host of tweaks designed to get the most out of that naturally-aspirated V12 - perhaps for the final time before it's replaced by a hybrid-assisted set-up.


Featuring an aluminium front frame joined to a carbon fibre monocoque, and housing a steel roll cage within, the design aims to "guarantee the highest standards of safety" while maximising "the torsional and bending stiffness characteristics." To that end the six-speed sequential transmission - to which the suspension arms are directly connected - takes on a structural load-bearing role, offering "optimal kinematics and a significant improvement in stiffness to weight ratio." A self-locking differential that can be dynamically adjusted by the driver, depending on the circuit and the conditions, also speaks to the car's all-out track focus.

Debuting next year in a limited-production run, the car's enormous rear wing, roof-mounted air scoop and huge front splitter all hint at the aero ability required to get the best out of the 830hp produced by that 6.5-litre naturally aspirated V12. If this is to be its final un-electrified bow, then what a way to go...


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redroadster

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1,056 posts

182 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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V12 sounds so awesome added to my lottery list .

Baldchap

2,218 posts

42 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Can't help but wonder how many cars like this are left before everything is downsized or hybrid/full electric.

cardigankid

7,815 posts

162 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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That looks to be well along the development route, with possibly the last and greatest of the naturally aspirated engines. That is one to have if you possibly can. The problem with all the electric rubbish is who are they going to sell electric hypercars to? Who is going to want them? Who here is itching to own a Porsche Taycan?

E65Ross

24,121 posts

162 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Baldchap said:
Can't help but wonder how many cars like this are left before everything is downsized or hybrid/full electric.
Not long, but it's been "is this the last hurrah?" for ages now. The original V12 Vantage was the last NA V12 apparently. Now Ferrari, and Lambo....still making them.

peteA

2,433 posts

184 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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awesome!

interesting as how long the V12 will last, especially given the recent Ferrari patents news.

If Lamborghini / Ferrari launched a super car / hyper car and there were two versions, electric and V12 with identical performance, which would sell the most? This being pH I suspect i know which most of us would prefer but what about the wider market?

Jim on the hill

4,018 posts

140 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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I was hoping to get I before all the "last of the V12" rubbish but I'm too late. We've only had this rubbish trotted out for the last 10 years. Here is to the next 10

matrignano

2,397 posts

160 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Bit late to the "track only" party there!

Ferrari FXX, McL P1GTR/Senna, Aston Vulcan etc..

E65Ross

24,121 posts

162 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Jim on the hill said:
I was hoping to get I before all the "last of the V12" rubbish but I'm too late. We've only had this rubbish trotted out for the last 10 years. Here is to the next 10
See my post above wink

AdamV12AMR

1,190 posts

106 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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E65Ross said:
The original V12 Vantage was the last NA V12 apparently.
I think the V12V's only claim to fame was being the last n/a V12 to be offered (in numbers) with a manual 'box.

This is PH, so I'm sure somebody will come along and prove me wrong.

E65Ross

24,121 posts

162 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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AdamV12AMR said:
E65Ross said:
The original V12 Vantage was the last NA V12 apparently.
I think the V12V's only claim to fame was being the last n/a V12 to be offered (in numbers) with a manual 'box.

This is PH, so I'm sure somebody will come along and prove me wrong.
We'll see whether the Gordon Murray T50 comes to fruition wink

cardigankid

7,815 posts

162 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

Luxury, Sports, Super and Hyper cars have never been so good, so well built, performed so well and handled so well as they do today. Look at this, look at the W12 Flying Spur, look at the F488, already down the Turbo route, sadly, but still brilliant. On the other hand they are trying to kill off ICE engines and replace them with electric bubble cars. In my view we need as many of these things as we can lay our hands on before it becomes illegal to build them. Then the 'Classic' market will be the only show in town. OK, that was the spiel when the V12 Vantage came out, but Clarkson was both right and prophetic.

Many heroes within the industry are still pushing for the production of serious ICE cars. Andreas Preuninger of Porsche GT, Tobias Moers of AMG, among others. Long may it continue, but it must be getting harder and harder. Already the NA engines are very thin on the ground. The NA Astons are a thing of the past. Perhaps the big engines will go on for another 10 years, maybe for 20 years, but under the current political regimes in the EU and UK, it will stop. Before then, lads, whenever it does happen, you had best have bought every car you want because there ain't going to be any more.

Apparently AMG recently announced to their board that future cars will be 4 cylinder max with turbo and electric assistance. Moers got up and left the room. Who will buy a 2 litre 4 cylinder AMG GTR or Aston Martin DB11 for example. What would be the point?

Edited by cardigankid on Monday 28th October 16:24

Jim on the hill

4,018 posts

140 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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E65Ross said:
Jim on the hill said:
I was hoping to get I before all the "last of the V12" rubbish but I'm too late. We've only had this rubbish trotted out for the last 10 years. Here is to the next 10
See my post above wink
wink

lotuslover69

165 posts

93 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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With cars running with over 1000bhp is 800bhp enough for a hypercar?

Max_Torque

14,533 posts

167 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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Anyone else trying and failing to give a cr*p about yet another telephone numbers super-hyper-car? I mean, the only difference between this and any other v12 supercar is the name, to all effective porpoises we have, imo, now reached the apex of the supercar evolution triangle, and just churning another one out every 3 months is not actually anything new? Sure, it might have a handful more power than the last one, but the last one was already too fast to use, and it might corner 0.01g harder, and lap 0.001 second quicker, but so what?

Perhaps i'm getting old, but supercars are dull (not helped by the fact that a lot of them seem to be owned by people who couldn't drive a greasy stick up a pigs ar*s but spend endless you-tube videos showing off with them....)

/rant


RemyMartin81D

5,388 posts

155 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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I give a crap about a naturally aspirated V12, so long as I have a hole in my arse, I will.

swisstoni

8,547 posts

229 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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A hole in your arse is pretty much essential if you are going to give a crap.

ZX10R NIN

16,530 posts

75 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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It'll be interesting to see this in the flesh.

E65Ross

24,121 posts

162 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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swisstoni said:
A hole in your arse is pretty much essential if you are going to give a crap.
hehe

Big Robbo

318 posts

96 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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Does it matter that a new "superhyperevomax" car gets launched every time they change their socks??
Most of these people who can afford to buy them are usually people you wouldn't want to know, who will go on trackdays to show off their new toy and chat with other knobheads who are the same as them.
Most PH members will appreciate the cars for what they are,as cars, not an indication of how big a knobhead you are

E65Ross

24,121 posts

162 months

Tuesday 29th October 2019
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Big Robbo said:
Does it matter that a new "superhyperevomax" car gets launched every time they change their socks??
Most of these people who can afford to buy them are usually people you wouldn't want to know, who will go on trackdays to show off their new toy and chat with other knobheads who are the same as them.
Most PH members will appreciate the cars for what they are,as cars, not an indication of how big a knobhead you are
If that's how you judge people then one might assume you to be a knobhead. So it's totally inconceivable that those spending huge amounts of money on a car isn't going to appreciate them for what they are?