RE: Jaguar XJS | Spotted
RE: Jaguar XJS | Spotted
Thursday 28th May 2020

Jaguar XJS | Spotted

We all know the XJS's problems, but desirability is creeping up by the year - especially at £7,495



There's a rule of thumb for Jaguar sports cars, one that stretches back more than half a century. Put simply, it's that the original is, styling-wise at least, by far the most appealing. Over the extensive production runs of everything - E-Type, XJS, XK, even F-Type - Jaguar has seen fit to meddle and modify where it really isn't needed.

Spoilers, skirts, scoops and spats are added, spoiling the purity of what were originally very nice designs. Naturally there is a desire to keep up with trends, especially when one model must be made to last so long - though it often seems that that Jaguar way of doing it is clumsier than others. Look at Series 3 E-Types, the XJSs of the 1990s, the XKs before its 2014 demise; they've all just been made fussier, without necessarily being better. Fortunately it seems that the message has gotten through - because the latest F-Type's facelift is a very successful one - but even that didn't escape scot free, with one or two dubious bodykits before then. And the new one's rear diffuser...


Anyway, point is that it's earlier the better for any of the Jag sports cars, at least from a design point of view. Nowhere is that better evidenced than with this XJS, a survivor from the third year of production (meaning it's more than 40 years old) and looking better than it ever has in red over cream.

Now, because the early versions of all these Jaguars tend to be the more desirable, they're also often the more expensive - E-Types being the perfect example. However, that isn't so with this XJS, as it's for sale at just £7,495.

Which, even allowing for the car's pitfalls - all of which are extremely well documented by now - looks like an alluringly cheap way into classic (and stylish) Jaguar ownership. It's a V12 automatic, which the majority of XJSs are, but as one of the early cars it goes without the High Efficiency tweaks that came later; or, as the advert puts it, "unhindered by the fuel saving restrictions" of HE versions. Still the issues around timing chains and an auxiliary air valve, raised in a recent Brave Pill, apply, as well as other XJS maladies (anyone ignorantly going into cheap XJS ownership now really only has themselves to blame).


The seller here freely admits a less than perfect exterior, suggesting the XJS "represents an ideal basis to improve upon or enjoy as is." There's appeal and merit in both choices; with money invested this could be one of the nicest (as well as oldest) XJSs around, while diving around in its current state means the next owner wouldn't have to be too precious - and can just get on with enjoying it.

Projects of any kind take a fair amount of commitment, leave alone those involving classic British sports cars and a V12 engine. Certainly, an XJS that's this affordable warrants closer inspection, and some considerable courage even with an all clear. But look at what stands to be gained: one of the best looking XJSs seen over its 21-year production run, a V12 engine and a price thousands less than anything comparable from the era. Risk and reward have seldom been so finely balanced - who dares take the plunge?


SPECIFICATION - JAGUAR XJS V12
Engine:
5,345cc V12
Transmission: 3-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 290@N/A rpm
Torque (lb ft): 294@N/A rpm
MPG: let's hope for double figures
First registered: 1977
Recorded mileage: 52,000
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £7,495

See the original advert here


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Original Poster:

1,499 posts

172 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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I'm afraid for me the later facelift cars just looked so much more 'right'

As a petrol headed kid growing up in the late 70's I remember the first XJS I saw - it was in the yellow - and to me it looked a complete mess, especially when compared with my grandmother's series 2 I guess Daimler.

Only with the facelift did so many of the heavy handed styling features get sorted and finally the bumper design didn't look Volv'esque to my eyes.

Billy_Whizzzz

2,469 posts

164 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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Too British Leyland, too Brexity, generally too rubbish. And that interior is a thing of badly built late ‘70s horror.

A1VDY

3,575 posts

148 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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Billy_Whizzzz said:
Too British Leyland, too Brexity, generally too rubbish. And that interior is a thing of badly built late ‘70s horror.
This x100
Very badly built BL money pit of a car. The build quality of these is on a par with an Allegro or Maxi. Pretty horrible to drive as well.
About as appealing as an arrow through the neck only to then find a gas bill attached..




simonrockman

7,058 posts

276 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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The bargain boat has sailed on these, they were below £1,000.

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

231 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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I worked on several early XJS when they fell out of the main dealer network in the early '80s.

I'd rather stick my cock into a sack of angry puff adders than go anywhere near another one. smile

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

114 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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It's a good start hehe

I think that they look great TBH, I wouldn't dare by one though!

HarryD

92 posts

139 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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I think you’d have a better time spending (probably less) on an ‘06 reg XK. Equally as Jaguary one could argue.

Robotron-2084

480 posts

70 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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I’m 49, as a kid I remember seeing these things rotting by the side of the road, piled up in scrap yards and raced around banger tracks.

I can’t imagine time has been very kind to them at all, they were really very unloved from what I can remember?

Is there such a thing as good one left anywhere?

Leins

10,086 posts

169 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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Better looking than an E-Type to my eyes, it carries its proportions more successfully. Yes it’s probably as dated and badly produced as The Saint’s return, but I’d still like an early one in white

J4CKO

45,386 posts

221 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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Robotron-2084 said:
I’m 49, as a kid I remember seeing these things rotting by the side of the road, piled up in scrap yards and raced around banger tracks.

I can’t imagine time has been very kind to them at all, they were really very unloved from what I can remember?

Is there such a thing as good one left anywhere?
I am also 49, so we were both around when they first came out in 1975, they werent always tragic old woofers, I remember having a metallic red toy one



I remember them being awfully posh, along with Stags they were up there as cars for the wealthy, sure there was other stuff but it was no way as prevalent as it is today. I rmeember my next door neighbour getting one and going for a spin, was a fairly new one, about an 86, it felt other worldly at the time.

But, they did get manky with age and they were a product of the BL machine and rotted for fun, interiors went mouldy and fell apart and all that stuff on top of the V12 gently cooked, went brittle and fell apart over time.

I saw one the other day, was a facelift and those always to me seemed to still look fairly modern but it lumbered past, the suspension was creaking a bit and it was emitting a haze of smoke from the exhausts, to be fair it may have just been started but it just seemed old.

The original ones now look best, still got a fondness for them, but own one, not really but a well kept later convertible could be a nice thing if you have a garage and some patience.

DaveCWK

2,261 posts

195 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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Aside from 'purity' I'm not sure why the values for early ones are higher - they were right rotboxes.
There is a big difference between the early & late ones; remember they were produced for 20 years.

Mine is a 1989 so just prior to the Ford takeover where all the engine gaskets etc were revised, but it still has some good simple improvements like all the relays being Bosch, not random *BL sourced for cheapest* stuff that craps out after 5 years & a bit of moisture.

cerb4.5lee

40,316 posts

201 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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This is a car that I loved as a child, I loved the way it looked(still do) and I obviously fell for the 5.3 litre V12! cloud9

They do seem to be much more trouble than they are worth though from what I read.

tobinen

10,156 posts

166 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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Lovely car. If it's rot-free then that seems rather under-priced to me.

apm142001

287 posts

110 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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I’ve browsed adverts for these quite a lot (torn between apparent affordability and that lovely design vs the likelihood of rust disintegration leaving me with at most a roof, 4 tyres, and perhaps a seat if I’m lucky). So far rationality has won.

From what I’ve seen, the pre-HE models do actually go for more money usually, so this is especially cheap (and therefore dubious).

Also, pretty much every one I’ve looked at that has a number plate showing has the aforementioned structural rust in the MOT history, as does the X100 XK (shared floor pan I think?) Real shame because to me the designs of both have aged very well indeed.

TheOctaneAddict

1,082 posts

68 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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I bloody love an XJS. I'd love to do a pro touring build with one and cram the JLR 5.0 in there cloud9

StuntmanMike

12,694 posts

172 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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Another fan here.

For me it’s the best looking car Jaguar has ever made.
It’s also the only Jaguar I desire.
Wouldn’t buy one though, I think it is a beautiful piece of st.

The Hypno-Toad

13,040 posts

226 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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My XJS memories.

I remember helping my mate run his Elise way back in the early 2000s and at one race meeting at Snetterton, there was a Jaguar racing series & we got chatting to some guys about their XJS. After their race the engine was totally lunched and spurting various fluids all over the pit lane. I asked if that was going to be a big job to repair and they just laughed. They weren’t going to repair it, they just going to pop down the scrapyard and pop another one in.

I also took a dark blue/cream full convertible XJS in as a part exchange once. It had only 44000 miles and it was immaculate. As the handover was on a sunny day my trip to the compound took a little longer than normal as with the roof off, the smile on my face was broad. It was only when I got back to the showroom that I realised I had started talking like Terry Thomas. That car really was “ding dong!”

Sebastian Tombs

2,137 posts

213 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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I have adored these for decades, but for me the 1981 'HE' facelift with the slimmer bumpers was a vast improvement on the original, and the 1987 model year with the cross-spoke alloys, the new seats, steering wheel and the wooden ski slope was the zenith of XJ-S production.

FPC

90 posts

72 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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I just don't get the hatred for this. To me it's a fascinating piece of period exotica for peanuts.

I'm old enough to remember these new and they certainly had wow factor back then. I think the styling now is great, just unique.

I'm sure it's a bh to work on and will have woeful build quality bit so will almost any relic from this long ago. Just imagine a 70s Maserati equivalent or whatever.

And as for it being "brexity" as someone above stated, nah they all drive German blandness round my way. Won't even touch JLR stuff.

MikeyC

836 posts

248 months

Thursday 28th May 2020
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Loved it when it 1st came out, but now my interest has waned, prefer the XK8s.
They look quite big cars but, comparing to more modern cars is actually not

£7.5K is a good price for this, a similar car (Year/Colour/mileage ! ??) sold at auction last year for ~11K