RE: Last-ever Ford RS200 | Spotted
RE: Last-ever Ford RS200 | Spotted
Monday 13th July 2020

Last-ever Ford RS200 | Spotted

There are homologation specials and then there are homologation specials - anyone have a spare £150k?



It’s a funny one, really. Because while we all know the storied history of Mk1 and Mk2 Escorts in rallying, Ford went for a very long time after those cars without much stage success. The Escort Cosworths were adored by many during the 1990s, but beaten by the Evos and Impreza of this world; the Focus never took a championship either, surpassed by everything in its competitive years from a Peugeot 206 to a Citroen C4. It wasn’t until 2017, 36 years after Ari Vatanen’s triumph in an RS1800, that a Ford won the World Rally Championship - Sebastien Ogier earning the honours in an M-Sport Fiesta. And then did it again in 2018, because he’s Sebastien Ogier. And that was his sixth WRC drivers title in a row.

The Group B era was fairly torrid for Ford as well, but it sure as hell did produce some cool homologation cars. Initially the plan was to campaign the RS1700T, a steroidal Escort that promised much given the success of what preceded it. The 1700T was again going to be a scorchingly fast, tremendously exciting rear-drive rally car… but the world had moved on. Or rather, the Audi Quattro had moved the world on. Ford needed a 4WD rally car to compete.


The RS200, as you’ll probably know, was the result, a bespoke mid-engined rally car designed to take on the very best that Group B could offer from Audi, Peugeot and Lancia. But even with 450hp it wasn’t quite fast enough, and turbo lag made the ‘200 tricky to drive; it achieved its best result of third at Rally Sweden in 1986, but with Group B then outlawed the RS200 was motorsport project of unfulfilled potential.

Still, this isn’t an RS200 history lesson, even if it’s impossible to discuss the car without its back story. This is about the opportunity to buy one of the 200 roadgoing examples made for homologation - the last one believed to be built, no less, and not registered until 1993.


As Ford intended for all the 200 to eventually be competition cars (despite their road legality), it was stuck when Group B was cancelled. C61 SAO is one of very few dedicated road cars, as many RS200s were converted to be rallycross competitors or stripped for spares support.

Moreover, it’s a standard RS200 road car, which must make it even rarer. The paintwork has never been restored, the three-mode 4WD selector is present and correct next to the gearlever and the BDT is still running factory-spec ancillaries. The only modification is the fitment of a steel flywheel A ring and a clutch slave cylinder modification, said to make the drive “somewhat less highly strung”. Presumably this is still not the easiest fast Ford in the world to drive…


Having covered just 5,000 miles in more than a quarter of a century, and with a clearly doting current owner, the RS200 is immaculate. Naturally, the history file is extensive, including letters from Mike Little Preparations (builders of the car, and who campaigned RS200s in the British Rally Championship) as well as Ford to verify the build date. Oh yes, and there are no advisories on the MOT, which runs until December. Imagine taking this to the local test centre!

To be honest, this is barely scratching the surface of this RS200’s story; we’ve been in touch with the seller and there are reams and reams of stuff that will come with it, plus the sort of detail and passion you only get from the most committed of enthusiasts. After all, this is not the fast Ford most lusted after as younger petrolheads.


This was shortly before Sierra Cosworth time, don’t forget, a car made in much greater numbers and more relatable to your dad’s 1.8 GL. It’s interesting, though; the very best Sierra RS500 will still cost £90k. This RS200, a bespoke Group B rally project of which the surviving numbers must be miniscule, is for sale at £150,000. A lotto win for most of us, of course, though perhaps not where the current fast Ford madness would have you value it. And good luck finding a sport Quattro, 205 T16 or Delta S4 homologation car for that money…

We’re mildly infatuated with the little Ford, basically, given its provenance, the history and the way it still looks in Diamond White (with the optional red seats) after all these years. The RS200 competition story may not have been an entirely happy one, but you wouldn't care a jot behind the wheel of the road car, would you? If the next owner is another PHer, please do let us know!


SPECIFICATION | FORD RS200
Engine:
1,803cc, four-cyl turbo
Transmission: 5-speed manual, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 240@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 207@4,500rpm
MPG: N/A
CO2: N/A
Year registered: 1993
Recorded mileage: 4,958
Price new: quite a lot
Yours for: £149,995

See the original advert here.



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Dombilano

Original Poster:

1,319 posts

74 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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I had a hotwheels version as a kid, so this is just perfect, I'd daily drive it if the Euromillions comes up

StuntmanMike

11,899 posts

170 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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I always rennet one of these being owned by a local garage owner.

He used to race Cosworths (three door ) and had one of these on the road.

I don’t know what happened to him but his garage is now a cafe.

Bigwod

308 posts

72 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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A car built from parts stripped down from other Rs 200 cars, hence 150k if it was proper then well over 200k

Bigwod

308 posts

72 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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StuntmanMike said:
I always rennet one of these being owned by a local garage owner.

He used to race Cosworths (three door ) and had one of these on the road.

I don’t know what happened to him but his garage is now a cafe.
You’re talking about Nigel kemp , Ironbridge garage , i also would see the Rs 200 been driven about
Not sure what happened to it

The spinner of plates

18,080 posts

219 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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£150k... whilst I understand it's potential significance to someone, I'll cheerfully file the RS200 under "expensive cars that do nothing for me" and jog on.

mrpenks

385 posts

174 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Ah. This is my ultimate dream car.
How Ford Europe went from this to the mess they have today is beyond words...

s m

24,041 posts

222 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Bigwod said:
You’re talking about Nigel kemp , Ironbridge garage , i also would see the Rs 200 been driven about
Not sure what happened to it
Nigel?
Or Kevan Kemp?

Julian Thompson

2,637 posts

257 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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I drove one of these once. Very strange thing on the road. That gearstick feels in totally the wrong place and the whole thing feels dead at road speed on tarmac - heavy as hell. Truly one to be used as intended or just collected I think.

anonymous-user

73 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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A thousand times yes. I'm no Ford fan but I've always loved these.

It would be parked next to the Jensen Interceptor and Alfa Romeo SZ in my lottery-numbers garage.

tobinen

10,080 posts

164 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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It seems a cheap entry into group B ownership to me.

Dapster

8,465 posts

199 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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"And good luck finding a sport Quattro, 205 T16 or Delta S4 homologation car for that money…"

It surprised me that the 205 is quite a but cheaper than the others here.

This sold for £120k



https://bid.goodingco.com/lots/view/1-23GIX2


Whereas the Quattro and S4 are on another level


€500,000

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...




€1m

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/es19/essen/lots...


cerb4.5lee

39,542 posts

199 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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I've always really enjoyed looking around these at Ford shows over the years. It has a strong desirability about it if you are into Fords for sure.

For some strange reason I've always thought that it will be better to look at...than it will be to drive though.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

244 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Bigwod said:
A car built from parts stripped down from other Rs 200 cars, hence 150k if it was proper then well over 200k
Huh? You saying it's not a proper RS200? confused

benzinbob

750 posts

75 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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I’d save my 150k and spend it on a mk1 focus rs, mk2 focus rs, Sierra cossie sapphire, mk1 Mexico, xr2i plus whatever else I could afford..probably a garage to fit all the bds in, get some underfloor heating, little gym in the corner..

Driver101

14,451 posts

140 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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If it wasn't registered until 1993 and made up of parts of other RS200s how is it on a C plate?

Steve loves Esprit

90 posts

66 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Red seats are optional? Guess you could have bought them without seats….

Kidding, red seats are in all street RS200.

To the specialist, who could help me with my ignorance:
As I remember, 200 RS200 were built by Ford in 1986 for homologation. They had to be presented to FIA and that’s it.

Afterwards, many RS200 incl. streetcars were brought back to a company JFK Engineering (Mr JQ Fischer). Because of poor production quality in 1986, actually Ford let the job done by RELIANT, JFK did a nut and bolt job later.

Anyway, Ford stopped its commitment. Instead of breaking the remaining unsold cars, 46 RS200 were stripped for parts supply and the very final 28 cars (LHD only) were sold

Robert Howe took care of them at that time.

Cheers
(and I would like to have one too!!!)

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

205 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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"The only modification is the fitment of a steel flywheel A ring and a clutch slave cylinder modification, said to make the drive “somewhat less highly strung”. Presumably this is still not the easiest fast Ford in the world to drive…"

The standard clutch - to someone that had just passed his test - was fking horrible. hehe

thegreenhell

20,703 posts

238 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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PhantomPH said:
Bigwod said:
A car built from parts stripped down from other Rs 200 cars, hence 150k if it was proper then well over 200k
Huh? You saying it's not a proper RS200? confused
I'm sure that Graham Robson will be along shortly to correct me, but of the 200 originally built for homologation, probably 20 or so were sent straight to the competition department for conversion to rally cars, and probably another 30-40 were immediately stripped back to component parts to be used for spares as soon as the man from the FIA had ticked the 200 box on the homologation form. I would assume from what's being said that this one was built back up into a whole car from that pile of unused spare parts.

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

205 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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thegreenhell said:
I'm sure that Graham Robson will be along shortly to correct me....
He'll probably contradict the guy who trots out the old thing about them being "built by Reliant" too.

Promsuit1

32 posts

122 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Bigwod said:
A car built from parts stripped down from other Rs 200 cars, hence 150k if it was proper then well over 200k
you have a lot of fast fords, and a GT allocation (if I recall correctly?). Ever thought about owning one?

my old man had a crashed car briefly many years ago