RE: Mercedes S-Class S600 L | Spotted

RE: Mercedes S-Class S600 L | Spotted

Wednesday 29th July 2020

Mercedes S-Class S600 L | Spotted

Want to own a 6.0-litre twin-turbocharged V12 before they become extinct? This one is £90k off...



The S-Class has long been an automotive pioneer in comfort and technology, and from what we've seen of the next-generation car, things are about to take a big leap forward in both respects. With cutting-edge augmented reality inside and an all-electrified powertrain line-up, it might just be the biggest forward stride yet taken in Mercedes's crowning model. Its arrival will probably date the outgoing S-Class like nineties sci-fi - an ignominious fate for car which everyone hailed as a technological marvel when it launched in 2014.

It was a comprehensive offering, too. The £62k 350 CDI SE Line set the agenda from the entry level, with its vast (for the day) digital screens surrounded by Merc's top-level leathers and metal trim. But higher-grade models really allowed the W222 platform to set a new bar for comfort, with Merc's Magic Body Control taking the 'waftmobile' reputation to new heights. Using stereo cameras to read the road ahead, the chassis could actively counter imperfections and furniture. Genius.


Also pioneering was the S-Class's ultra-advanced driver assist tech. A steer assist feature is becoming familiar across the board, but in 2014, the S-Class made it work brilliantly. As did the car's Traffic Jam Assist and emergency braking functions, which had plenty excited by the prospect of autonomous cars being just around the corner. They weren't, of course, but the S Class nudged the whole concept closer by a significant margin.

There were usable hybrids as well, but we saved our affection for AMG's characteristic madness - delivered as the 585hp S63 and 630hp S65, the latter affirming that there was still space for a more traditional, big block take on luxury motoring. This was particularly conspicuous in Merc's S600 L, a car (or limo, given its long-wheelbase) that deployed its twelve cylinders for effortless progress above all else. Although with 530hp and 612lb ft of torque, the latter being available from 1,900rpm, it also wasn't short of pace: 62mph came in under five seconds and the top speed had to be limited at 155mph.


But the focus was obviously elsewhere. Merc's thick insulation ensured that interior road noise was the lowest in class, and there were such reserves of performance that the S600 L has always been a car to use when the private jet was grounded. The S500 could get you from Munich to Berlin nailed at 155mph, too - but it didn't have as many cylinders, and when you've got the best of everything, why scrimp on the important stuff? The £145,970 starting price reflected that instinct.

That means today's Spotted, a four-year, 21,000-mile-old example is not far off a third of its original value, if you assume the buyer added a few options to pump that base price up a bit. That's a painful bout of depreciation for the original buyer, but a chance to bag a cut-price present-gen S-Class before the new one comes and makes it all feel a bit last decade. We'd recommend standing on the shoulder of a giant why you have the chance...


SPECIFICATION | MERCEDES-BENZ S -CLASS S600 L

Engine: 5,980cc, V12, twin-turbocharged
Transmission: 7-speed automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 530@4,900-5,300rpm
Torque (lb ft): 612@1,900-4,000rpm
MPG: 25
CO2: 259g/km
Recorded mileage: 21,000
First registered: 2016
Price new: £145,970
Yours for: £53,990

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Turini

Original Poster:

422 posts

168 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Until it goes wrong....

Our new GLS has so many faults and niggles that the dealership can’t replicate or isn’t able to diagnose it alarms me. Still this may have transitioned into specialist territory so it won’t cripple someone who’s brave enough to give it a go and enjoy that colossal power

Sandpit Steve

10,386 posts

76 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Would four years old be the sweet spot for these I wonder, with the monster depreciation in the past and the Brave Pill bills to come in the future?

drpep

1,760 posts

170 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Yeah you'd need a significant set of gonads to buy this out of warranty, given its ability to produce crippling bills.

It would be great if the systems degraded gracefully and in a manner which didn't cripple the car, but these cars seem to integrate everything so deeply that a failure is either catastrophic or significantly impairs multiple car systems.

I can think of many more satisfying ways to deploy £50k.

Equus

16,980 posts

103 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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I've owned 2 S-classes (even I was never quite brave/stupid enough to go for an S600).

They're lovely when they're working, but they're one of the least reliable, and certainly the least confidence-inspiring cars I've ever owned.

And that comes from a serial owner of classic Lotuses...

FA57REN

1,025 posts

57 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Completely tangential but the escalating use of the infinitive form of the verb 'assist' in place of the noun 'assistance' really irritates.

But yet Mercedes managed to go one step farther with 'Steer Assist'. In proper English we'd say Steering Assistance, my dears.

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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I've owned my W222 350d for 4.5 years, bought at 18 months old for around half price. It's by far the best engineered car I've ever owned; capable of 400+ miles in a day at high speed in absolute comfort.

It's averaged 44mpg over 55,000 miles and just needed servicing, tyres and brake pads. I did have one issue with a failed NOX sensor, just out of warranty, but Mercedes replaced it free-of-charge. No other issues and it still feels as taught as the day I bought it.

Depreciation is the biggest cost; mine is worth about £15k now, which just means I'll keep hold of it. I can't think of anything I'd rather own - except perhaps an S63 with the 4.0-litre V8.

Numeric

1,409 posts

153 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Many years ago at the launch of the first 7-series with I-drive I met the project leader of the I-drive programme - lovely fellow and gosh so intelligent, and he predicted that as cars barely rusted and engineering was really very solid (hmm maybe not as solid as he thought) it would be his area of the car - the electronic systems that would kill them, with huge bills required to repair.

It is so sad that he was absolutely correct in so many ways - of course things go wrong with the oily bits, but it is so often the electronics that scare us.

Makes me look back with great fondness at the era of the W126 and 140 cars that of course could cost money but were less likely in my mind (if not in reality) to eat themselves from the inside out.

as an aside I still think after a few revisions I-drive is now the best by a long way!

andy43

9,793 posts

256 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Article said:
Using stereo cameras to read the road ahead, the chassis could actively counter imperfections and furniture. Genius.
All that makes me think of is swerving around abandoned settees and tangled piles of standard lamps. Chuck out the chintz.
Not the sort of area the original S Class owners would be frequenting...

BIRMA

3,813 posts

196 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Fabulous waft-mobile with a surprising turn of speed. At least this is one of the later models which means the coil-packs (two of them) won't fail quite so quickly at about £1200 each. Be prepared for eye watering servicing costs every now and then when spark plugs need replacing, if I recall correctly near £3K is required if you have it serviced through a main dealer.
I had the CL65 and truly loved the V12 twin turbo engines relentless thrust once on the move, if anyone buys it I've got a nice set of Vossen wheels that fit nicely and transform the looks.
Shame about the output it should be around 620 BHP at least that is about what my CL 65 put out, it's been castrated in which case a quick re-map should get it where it should be.

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Helicopter123

8,831 posts

158 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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So, this or an base E400d (after discount £52k).

I know which one appeals more in the showroom, but I suspect I know which one will financially ruin me too...

TheOrangePeril

778 posts

182 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Sandpit Steve said:
Would four years old be the sweet spot for these I wonder, with the monster depreciation in the past and the Brave Pill bills to come in the future?
I'd say more like 10 years old. There's no way that the bills from age 4-10 will be more than the depreciation...

Penguinracer

1,593 posts

208 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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I currently have three V12 German cars on the fleet...1988, 1994 & 2007 - none of them have been a problem.

I run cars like you'd run an aircraft - stay on top everything, keep it garaged/hangared, ensure it all works and do preventative maintenance.

You can treat your car to protect your investment by maintaining it to factory specification in which case it should be reliable and perform as new (which TUV in Germany requires owners to do) or you can cheap-out and fool yourself with false economies by running it into the ground with the result that you'll accelerate depreciation and be driving an unreliable, under-performing banger.

Callum43

294 posts

54 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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I think this might be the sort of purchase you might consider if you’ve been given less than a year to live . The warranty will cover you until then and , come the funeral , you can save your nearest and dearest the cost of an additional car to follow the hearse . I used to chat to a bloke at the car wash who’d bought one in similar circumstances to this and the nervousness in his voice was tangible on the subject of running costs . I would suggest that in another 2/3 years this would be all but unsalable.
From the picture of the dealer it also seems a strange place to be selling something such as this from .

Equus

16,980 posts

103 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Penguinracer said:
I currently have three V12 German cars on the fleet...1988, 1994 & 2007 - none of them have been a problem.
All (with the exception of the 2007, perhaps) before the advent of the latest electronics/computer systems, I note?

The majority of the issues (which were, admittedly, minor and annoying rather than show-stoppers) that I suffered on my two S-classes were electronics related. Some, I got the distinct impression, were simply flaky software programming.. you got used to the Microsoft Windows expedient of 'switch it off, switch it on again'.

Not really acceptable on a £100K car, though.



anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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If you drive this anywhere near or around London people would automatically assume you're an Uber Lux driver. Just need bottles of water stuffed in the passenger door bins to complete the look smile

Hereward

4,217 posts

232 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Penguinracer said:
I currently have three V12 German cars on the fleet...1988, 1994 & 2007 - none of them have been a problem...
Any chance of some pics of the 1994 600 Coupe? I want one. Thanks.

BIRMA

3,813 posts

196 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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TheOrangePeril said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Would four years old be the sweet spot for these I wonder, with the monster depreciation in the past and the Brave Pill bills to come in the future?
I'd say more like 10 years old. There's no way that the bills from age 4-10 will be more than the depreciation...
I agree, at 10 years old it will be an awful lot cheaper and in relative terms an absolute bargain. Only problem would be if it wasn't looked after properly, even with 80-90K miles on it the engine is probably only just run in. Things like discs and pads can be expensive, but if you can find a good independent Mercedes garage to look after it for you you're going to have a nice bit of kit. The dashboard in these later cars is superb and along with the cooled massage seats this car would make a 400 mile round trip seem like a trip down to the local shops.

British Beef

2,251 posts

167 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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FA57REN said:
Completely tangential but the escalating use of the infinitive form of the verb 'assist' in place of the noun 'assistance' really irritates.

But yet Mercedes managed to go one step farther with 'Steer Assist'. In proper English we'd say Steering Assistance, my dears.
My understanding of the language is:

- One step "farther" is more accurate for a physical distance.

- One step further would be more accurate for a figurative distance, which is what I believe you are implicating, in proper English ;-)


British Beef

2,251 posts

167 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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British Beef said:
FA57REN said:
Completely tangential but the escalating use of the infinitive form of the verb 'assist' in place of the noun 'assistance' really irritates.

But yet Mercedes managed to go one step farther with 'Steer Assist'. In proper English we'd say Steering Assistance, my dears.
My understanding of the language is:

- One step "farther" is more accurate for a physical distance.

- One step further would be more accurate for a figurative distance, which is what I believe you are implicating, in proper English ;-)
On the subject of incorrect English, is starting a sentence with "But ... " not considered poor English?

cerb4.5lee

31,063 posts

182 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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If I had a lottery win then something like this would really appeal. There is just something I find really nice about the S-Class for sure.