RE: 60-mile Ultraviolet 911 GT3 RS for sale
RE: 60-mile Ultraviolet 911 GT3 RS for sale
Friday 20th November 2020

60-mile Ultraviolet 911 GT3 RS for sale

The new 992 GT3 RS is still some way off - so what about a good-as-new version of the old one?



Venturing into the discussion of used Porsche values - specifically the GT models - is always done with some trepidation. Because according to some, you'll only get on the list for a new one after buying nine Macans and sending the dealer fresh flowers every week; or you'll be faced with paying way over the odds for a flipped example suspiciously close to the launch. That residual values are so fiercely strong only compounds the problem. Those who didn't make it onto that original list are forced to pay over RRP for years after. Which would be quite annoying.

There's another problem, too, as the GT cars at list price aren't all that expensive. As an experience, the original Cayman GT4 was worth way more than the £65k asked, in a similar way that 991 GT3s were significantly more exciting than everything else around £100,000. All that meant, however, is that secondhand prices were hoiked up further, sellers apparently pricing recent GT cars as the second coming of the automobile rather than reflecting their true status as merely great value sports cars.

Sadly, this particular GT3 RS isn't suddenly the return of the bargain basement track Porsche - it's £165k. But if we accept that the original £131,296 asking price perhaps sold the RS's abilities short, and that a car like this would have been nearer £140k with options, the premium appears begrudgingly acceptable rather than overtly antagonising.

Especially so given the spec. This GT3 RS has just 59 miles on it, which was presumably just the drive to wherever it has been stored. There it has sat for five years, serviced twice since new and with another one to happen at the point of sale. It's painted that incredible Ultraviolet purple colour, and is about as hardcore a 991 as you'll find: Clubsport with half cage and harnesses, PCM delete, lightweight lithium battery, ceramic brakes, carbon buckets, fire extinguisher and so on. Its complete lack use is at odds with a list of options that screams track car; perhaps it was configured as the ultimate expression of the GT3 RS philosophy, but only to exhibit. Like a stuffed grizzly.

Whatever the case, it's now for sale, and looking just as sublime as you'd hope. Which presents something of a quandary, because the best GT3 specification for a collector is surely the same as for a buyer keen to drive it: they both want the lightest, purest, most focused derivative out there. Whichever kind of RS fan ends up with this one, they're in for an absolute treat.





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wab172uk

Original Poster:

2,005 posts

250 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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This is what I hate.

No doubt this guy got it brand new? Somehow got one instead of someone who'd have bought it to drive it. Let's it sit around, then tries selling it for a handsome profit.

No doubt he'll somehow get the new GT3 instead of a genuine customer too.

MarkM3Evoplus

861 posts

223 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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In my favourite colour too, so a new house and keep my nuts or this and the wife gives me the snip...hmmm, tricky one

ChrisCh86

1,089 posts

67 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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Porsche GT cars are the best and worst.

The best because they are truly special. The worst because mere mortals can't buy one new, or for anything like the RRP.

So - show Porsche what you think of them and take your money elsewhere - buy a Lotus. idea

Leftfootwonder

1,662 posts

81 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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I'll probably get flamed for this but £165k - even if that's what the market says its worth - is too much for this. I'd get a similar aged McLaren 570S and trouser about £70k and actually drive it (before all the reliability jokes come out, Porsche aren't exactly immune to reliability issues).

Griffgrog

737 posts

269 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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PCM Delete, so no infotainment, satnav, radio etc. That's a killer.

CS Garth

2,873 posts

128 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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Griffgrog said:
PCM Delete, so no infotainment, satnav, radio etc. That's a killer.
There’s the irony - everyone wants buckets but also pcm.

CallThatMusic

2,867 posts

111 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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Horribly overpriced.

Don1

16,473 posts

231 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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When I'm ruler of the world, people who buy such things to flip and make money (not driving them), will be punished. Quite harshly.

av185

20,464 posts

150 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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Doubtful whether the engine has ever got up to full operating temperature.

If you are buying an RS for the collection/to use a first run pre gpf 991.2 GT3 RS is the one to have.

Or a 991.2 GT3 manual.

HardtopManual

2,836 posts

189 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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Bit odd, this. £25k profit on £140k over 5 years. That's not even 3% per year.

Would have made the same profit sticking your GBP into a USD bank account at what was 1.50 back then.

A good lesson to anyone thinking of doing the same thing.

oedipus

446 posts

89 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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HardtopManual said:
Bit odd, this. £25k profit on £140k over 5 years. That's not even 3% per year.

Would have made the same profit sticking your GBP into a USD bank account at what was 1.50 back then.

A good lesson to anyone thinking of doing the same thing.
Even less when storage and servicing are factored in.

leef44

5,152 posts

176 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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I'm sorry, as much as this is a rip off, if I had the money, I would have to have one and I would bend over backwards and pay up for this one.

cloud9

TCX

1,976 posts

78 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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Potential unused....may as well not exist

sidesauce

2,967 posts

241 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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HardtopManual said:
Bit odd, this. £25k profit on £140k over 5 years. That's not even 3% per year.

Would have made the same profit sticking your GBP into a USD bank account at what was 1.50 back then.

A good lesson to anyone thinking of doing the same thing.
I like how it's assumed it was bought for profit only. Obviously that must be the case with any car that's bought new and left unused for years, right? Speculating on what happened in someone's life makes that person no better in my mind.

HardtopManual

2,836 posts

189 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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sidesauce said:
I like how it's assumed it was bought for profit only. Obviously that must be the case with any car that's bought new and left unused for years, right?
I would have thought for the vast majority of them, yes. Why else?

Olivergt

2,168 posts

104 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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Isn't this another one of those cars that only has the value because of the very low mileage?

This really means that you can't buy it to use it, because as soon as you use it, it loses all it's value. So it will only be bought to go into another collection.

What does a five year old ones of these cost with say 20-25k miles on it?

av185

20,464 posts

150 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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Just over list ££ if the right spec.

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

180 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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sidesauce said:
HardtopManual said:
Bit odd, this. £25k profit on £140k over 5 years. That's not even 3% per year.

Would have made the same profit sticking your GBP into a USD bank account at what was 1.50 back then.

A good lesson to anyone thinking of doing the same thing.
I like how it's assumed it was bought for profit only. Obviously that must be the case with any car that's bought new and left unused for years, right? Speculating on what happened in someone's life makes that person no better in my mind.
While its possible they bought a brand new track day Porsche and then loss the use of their legs the next day so never drovie it but kept it for 3 years....its a lot more likely they held onto it to make a profit. An unused track day car is a bit pointless they might as well sell you a GT3RS-Superlight which has no engine or interior just a shell if you just want to look at it.

But you poays your money so do what you want

blade7

11,311 posts

239 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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If I win the Euromillions tonight I will have it for a track slag.

Frimley111R

18,410 posts

257 months

Friday 20th November 2020
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wab172uk said:
This is what I hate.

No doubt this guy got it brand new? Somehow got one instead of someone who'd have bought it to drive it. Let's it sit around, then tries selling it for a handsome profit.

No doubt he'll somehow get the new GT3 instead of a genuine customer too.
He's far from the only one. if you have the right contacts you can queue jump or get in when an order is cancelled.

If you aren't a petrolhead these are just great ways to make a lot of money from your existing resources. What else gives you this return? I know of a Lambo that's been sold 3 times and never left the showroom! It's like works of art and probably lots of similar things. Bad for us petrolheads but even at list prices this car is beyond 99% of us.