RE: Renault 5 GT Turbo Raider | Spotted
RE: Renault 5 GT Turbo Raider | Spotted
Tuesday 19th January 2021

Renault 5 GT Turbo Raider | Spotted

EV reimagination of the 5 got you desperate for the real thing? Here's just the car



The Alpine supermini EV idea suggested in its new product plan is such a clever one that it's a surprise it's taken this long. Because not only is there the contemporary appeal of a small, stylish EV to consider - look at how well the Honda e has been received - there's also the nostalgia value of something which might look very much like the Renault 5. To the majority it will be nothing more than a stylish electric vehicle; to those in the know, however, it's a reimagination of one of the great French city cars. And that has to be a good thing. Combine that with Alpine's revitalised reputation and it's easy to see why anticipation is running high.

Whether a roadgoing Alpine supermini will have quite the impact of Renault's latest concept isn't clear just yet - it's not even confirmed that they are one and the same thing - but one thing isn't up for debate: using the 5 as inspiration was a brilliant idea. It's a car with a history like little else, production running for almost a quarter of a century and spawning everything from learner driver specials to mid-engined Group B rally cars. Even those not around for its heyday know what a significant little car the 5 was, which makes a comeback of any kind very exciting indeed.

Surely the best loved Renault 5 of them all in Britain was the GT Turbo. Perhaps not as pure as a 205 or as popular as a fast Ford, but to many the epitome of the 80s hot hatch: fast, light, a bit lairy and enormous fun. Turbocharged, too, meaning the excitement of both lag and some relatively easily won tuning gains.


Modifying is largely what did it for the GT Turbo; well, that and the propensity to rust. It was a circle of doom only likely to see numbers of 5s dwindle: a fast little car made even faster still, with badly fitted bodykits, lift off oversteer, bodged repairs and the all the other maladies that affect the Max Power generation. Plus the fact they went out of production 30 years ago. Considering all that it's a miracle any survived - leave alone a GT Turbo as good as this.

It's a Raider, the run-out limited edition nameplate also used many years later for the Renaultsport Clio. At the time of the 5 it meant dark blue paint with colour-coded wheels, though the same 122hp 1.4-litre as had always powered the GT Turbo. This one, on a 1990 'G' plate, is an early Raider - production ran into 1991 - yet must be one of the best now left. It's covered just 57,000 miles in the past three decades, and has apparently survived all that time with only slightly lower suspension and a rortier exhaust added. Given the 5's reputation as a magnet for spanners, that's probably the most notable achievement of all.

Once upon a time the 5 was once held up as the pinnacle of cheap, fast, French fun; therefore the £30k asking price of this one will cause some to baulk. Particularly given a nice, 1989 GT Turbo was £5k just a few years ago. Still, many more 5s will have disappeared since then, and the Raider really was the last of the line before the Clio. Opportunities to relive a misspent youth are dwindling seemingly by the month - a point both buyers and sellers will be all too aware of. In fact, if this is where 5 GT Turbos have ended up, it might be time to start stockpiling Renaultsport Clios...


SPECIFICATION | RENAULT 5 GT TURBO RAIDER

Engine: 1,397cc, inline-4 turbocharged
Transmission: 5-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 122@5,750rpm
Torque (lb ft): 122@3,750rpm
MPG: 30 or so
CO2: N/A
First registered: 1990
Recorded mileage: 57,000
Price new: £10,350 (standard GT Turbo)
Yours for: £29,750

See the original advert here







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GTEYE

Original Poster:

2,331 posts

230 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Wow! £30k.

It looks a decent example, but you’d really have to want one at that price. It’s just getting silly now.

200Plus Club

12,610 posts

298 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Asking £30k isn't the same as getting it! £10-15k would be more realistic shirley..

rodericb

8,360 posts

146 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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These things were never sold in Australia so I don't have any "baggage" about them. So these things look ace to me.

Turini

454 posts

186 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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They aren’t making any more of these so think how rare it is and if kept well how much rarer still it’ll be in another 10, 20 or 30 years time.

Don’t think you’d be loosing much on it as a keeper even with some fun driving in it each year

mike74

3,687 posts

152 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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I actually saw a standard R5gtt in red the other day for the first time in many years and I was distinctly underwhelmed by it's looks compared to my memory and all the pics you see on the interweb.

Didn't look chunky and low sitting, more quite tall and thin with ridiculously skinny tyres, looked like it could topple over if you took a corner a bit too enthusiastically.

heisthegaffer

3,996 posts

218 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Lovely steering wheel.

heisthegaffer

3,996 posts

218 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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And I never knew there was a RenaultSport Clio Raider.

PeterGadsby

1,397 posts

183 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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One for my dream garage, I have lusted after them for ages, but 15K is too much IMHO and 30K is mental.

- Pete

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Bloody quick for what they were but they were a swine to set up back in the day, I can't imagine who you'd get to look after one these days.

Wasn't third gear made of chocolate too? I recall looking at a few in the mid 90s so they'd be about 6 years old then and the gearbox always balked in third.

The old Fords were understandably looked upon as much simpler things compared to these but parts were cheap and plentiful, servicing and repairs bodged by the local back street garages on a shoestring.

rossub

5,399 posts

210 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Weren’t they unreliable as hell when they were still in production?

Dread to think how much of a PITA it would be to keep one going now.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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rossub said:
Weren’t they unreliable as hell when they were still in production?

Dread to think how much of a PITA it would be to keep one going now.
That's what I was kind of meaning above, not sure if they were terribly unreliable or if the knowledge base just wasn't there to look after them once they moved out of the franchised dealer's hands. Complicated to set up and hard to get parts, no internet to find stuff out.

Same with lots of "exotic" stuff, Alfa 33s, Uno Turbos etc

s m

24,068 posts

223 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Bloody quick for what they were but they were a swine to set up back in the day, I can't imagine who you'd get to look after one these days.
I see a couple of normal 5GTTs used as summer dailies - one red, one black - but there is a local specialist ( CGB Motorsport ) that deals in them ( or used to at least before COVID )

Price doesn’t surprise me at all for a Raider in good nick ( although this one sold about 6 months ago for just under 20k )

Edited by s m on Tuesday 19th January 08:11

Global Nomad

93 posts

101 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Are we going to see a Gordini version too?

generationx

8,727 posts

125 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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These just look so right.

Maccmike8

1,473 posts

74 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Driving my mates 5 20years ago, 5 up trying to do 120 smile Oh and lift off oversteer galore. Fab little cars.

cerb4.5lee

40,239 posts

200 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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These were the business in my eyes back then. They seemed so fast too, plus being a turbo more performance was easily available if you wanted it.

Where I was from everyone seemed to enjoy the traffic light grand prix, and I remember keeping one of these fairly honest in my Xr4x4...but I also got absolutely blitzed by another one(that one was obviously played with). I always thought they were a really cool car, however I always got the impression that they would fall to bits really easy though. A really ugly engine bay too.

s m

24,068 posts

223 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Maccmike8 said:
Driving my mates 5 20years ago, 5 up trying to do 120 smile Oh and lift off oversteer galore. Fab little cars.
They were so quick and handled brilliantly I always thought - remember chasing my friend in his when I had my 309Gti

The Clio Williams he got afterwards always seemed a fair bit slower

I do remember he had the hot start problem ( cured by the dealer ) and replacing a fair few clutch cables till he wrapped the last one in Agriemach

The Raiders were called the ‘Alain Oreille’ edition over in France

Julian Thompson

2,638 posts

258 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Bloody quick for what they were but they were a swine to set up back in the day, I can't imagine who you'd get to look after one these days.

Wasn't third gear made of chocolate too? I recall looking at a few in the mid 90s so they'd be about 6 years old then and the gearbox always balked in third.

The old Fords were understandably looked upon as much simpler things compared to these but parts were cheap and plentiful, servicing and repairs bodged by the local back street garages on a shoestring.
Yes third gear was unreliable. My (heavily tuned!) one spat third out suddenly at 30psi of boost and the gearbox oil went all over the back tyres. I spent the next few seconds looking through the side window and was lucky to save it!

I also had a 16v clio which suffered the same problem with that gear. I think I had 2 gearboxes under warranty and one I changed myself on that one!

To be fair these are extremely simple cars so any decent mechanic would be all over them in terms of looking after them. Just silly things really like making sure the anti-perc fans are working and that all the crazy vacuum plumbing doesn’t leak. The rest of it is a pair of struts and a torsion beam so there isn’t much to worry about!

£30k? Well it sounds crazy but if a MK2 escort is worth £50k then why not?

PurpleTurtle

8,522 posts

164 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Always loved these, but £30k is strong money!

Augustus Windsock

3,693 posts

175 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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This car sold for £21,000 on 4th July 2020 via ‘Collecting Cars’.
Seems like it’s hardly or not been used as the mileage then was 57,167.
A £9k flip then... ? (Ok £8750 not including any fees involved)


Edited by Augustus Windsock on Tuesday 19th January 08:42