RE: 'Collector condition' Ford Fiesta ST150 | Spotted
RE: 'Collector condition' Ford Fiesta ST150 | Spotted
Monday 22nd March 2021

'Collector condition' Ford Fiesta ST150 | Spotted

Is the fifth-gen ST finally worth its asking price?



The Ford Fiesta ST certainly had its work cut out when it arrived in 2005. Renault had already launched the Clio 182 Trophy as a celebratory hot hatch model, and Fernando Alonso was on course to break an era of Schumacher dominance in F1 with the blue and yellow R25. Had Ford revealed a performance supermini at any other time, it would have likely received higher initial appraise. But in the face of Renault’s successes, it seemed a little subpar. 

The ST 150’s case was not helped by the fact that its 2.0-litre engine had 150hp and the car weighed 1,137kg. It was both less powerful and heavier than the 182, and while it was lighter than the EP3 Civic Type R, Honda's 8,250rpm K20A motor delivered the kind of USP that Ford couldn't (or wouldn't) compete with. Then there was the Mini Cooper S, which also had more power and a funky interior to boot. It was not a segment to enter lightly. 

There was clearly much potential, though, not least because the spiritual successor to the Ford Fiesta XR2 appeared not long after Ford had reminded everyone just what it was capable of with the Mk1 Focus RS. The manufacturer claimed a “Focus ST170-matching lap time” around its Lommel test track for the hot Fiesta (not exactly a spine-tingling fact) but with 17-inch alloys (an inch bigger than the Clio got) plus 205-width Pirelli P Zeros and lowered suspension, it certainly looked the part. 


It also benefitted from a £13,595 list price, which undercut pretty much all of the car’s rivals, including the 182, even in its cheaper 'Cup' guise. That was a big win for the Fiesta, given it included part-leather seats, a decent CD stereo and several styling flourishes. Moreover, the Duratec's revvy character felt appropriately performance-oriented, while the five-speed gearbox’s ratios were tightly stacked and the flywheel was lightened, ensuring buzzy on-road performance. In isolation, the ST seemed likeable and on brand. 

Of course, when measured against its direct rivals it was found wanting - but that didn't stop it being a sales success. Fast Fords don't need much help leaving the showroom, and even the model's shortcomings were addressed in the long-term - the manufacturer hitting its successor so far from the park that the competition have rarely been worthy of eating its dust. It makes looking back at the ST150 with favour that bit easier; the Fiesta's lineage and its place in the hot hatch hall of fame now beyond all reasonable question. 

Factor into that the growing sentimentality for all things naturally aspirated and early noughties, and your glasses don't need rose-coloured lenses to see the appeal of today's spotted. The ST in question has covered just 9,000 miles in its 14 years of existence, something that’s evident in the condition of its exterior and interior, and underside, judging by the pictures. The seller describes the car as “collector condition” and it’s hard to argue with that; although at six quid short of £13k, this is also easily the most expensive ST150 on sale. You can still pick up ropey examples for under a grand, after all. But for the increasing number of buyers seeking the best-kept examples of cars from two decades ago, this is likely as good as the old Fiesta ST gets.


SPECIFICATION | FORD FIESTA ST150

Engine: 1,999cc, inline four
Transmission: 5-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 150@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 140@4,500rpm
MPG: 38
CO2: 179g/km
First registered: 2007
Recorded mileage: 9,000
Price new: £13,595
Price now: £12,994

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TREMAiNE

Original Poster:

4,120 posts

170 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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I never personally understood why anyone would buy one of these over pretty much any of the rivals.
It's slow, fairly boring to look at and just doesn't seem special to me.

I suppose Fast Fords have a big following and it was fairly cheap.
Remove those elements and it wouldn't have sold anywhere near as well.

Krikkit

27,735 posts

202 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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TREMAiNE said:
I never personally understood why anyone would buy one of these over pretty much any of the rivals.
It's slow, fairly boring to look at and just doesn't seem special to me.

I suppose Fast Fords have a big following and it was fairly cheap.
Remove those elements and it wouldn't have sold anywhere near as well.
They handle really well, look pretty good (as all the hot hatches of this era do imho) and with minimal changes (exhaust, induction kit and remap) can be tweaked to 180hp.


culpz

4,962 posts

133 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Wouldn't the "collector edition" of one of these be a low-miles ST500?

sjabrown

2,051 posts

181 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Does seem very strong money, especially as 9000 miles on the clock is unlikely to be the lowest mileage one out there.

As a road car it's not a Clio 172/182 however it does have significant motorsport pedigree with the group N (N3) rally cars.

ae2006

189 posts

118 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Had one in blue for three years, looked really nice and was 100% reliable but i didn't fell in love with it, the car always felt that it could have been a lot more and better. Some points i remember are:

- Nice interior and seats (for a small 'cheap' car), but you feel like you sit on the car rather than in it (seats mounted to high)
- Fast (enough) but the engine just makes 'a noise', it just sounded 'meh' and didn't like to rev that much (in stock form)
- It really REALLY needs a 6th gear for everyday life. You can get to motorway speeds without any problem, it has more than enough power, but then you sit there doing 80mph at 3800rpm. Combined with the absolutely uninspiring noise it makes that was just annoying
- The suspension is great and a lot of fun

All in all it was let down by a lot of small things. Really not a bad car but not a great one either and not for this much money.

Edit: And for a bit of context, i bought it because it was quite alone in its segment and price at the time here in germany. I don't know if they even sold the Clios here but on the used market they are just non existent, as is the EP3 Civic Type R.

Edited by ae2006 on Monday 22 March 13:55

EK9_CTR

675 posts

155 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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EP3 Civic Type R was miles better IMO.

DanielSan

19,711 posts

188 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Makes more sense to buy a fairly tidy one with more miles for 3-4k to be honest.

VladD

8,134 posts

286 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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I like that shape of Fiesta, but that's four times what I'd want to pay for one that age.

David87

6,933 posts

233 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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My least favourite shape of Fiesta. Not nice.

Wheel_Turned_Out

1,893 posts

59 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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I like those Fiestas a lot, and I'm sure it's a fun little car. But...the best part of £13k? No thanks.

Deadlysub

581 posts

179 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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EK9_CTR said:
EP3 Civic Type R was miles better IMO.
Different price point though. The ST was cheap, I paid £11k for mine new in 2005 when they were first launched.

I replaced the ST with a Type R though!

Water Fairy

6,349 posts

176 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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The underside of this looks rough for only 9k miles. 13k buys something better and more useable.

Rubins4

784 posts

146 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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ae2006 said:
- Nice interior and seats (for a small 'cheap' car), but you feel like you sit on the car rather than in it (seats mounted to high)
- Fast (enough) but the engine just makes 'a noise', it just sounded 'meh' and didn't like to rev that much (in stock form)
- It really REALLY needs a 6th gear for everyday life. You can get to motorway speeds without any problem, it has more than enough power, but then you sit there doing 80mph at 3800rpm. Combined with the absolutely uninspiring noise it makes that was just annoying
- The suspension is great and a lot of fun
This is a pretty good analysis. I had a silver one for a year or two. From factory they have a restrictive downpipe from manifold to exhaust system that when replaced with a freer flowing aftermarket job made the engine breathe better.

However, the best bit about it was they why it egged you one to thrash it everywhere. After borrowing for the day even the wife said she was driving like a hooligan.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

246 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Do people really collect these things??

Aside from anything, that price bugs me in a strange way. Why the '£xx,994'??? I've made my peace with people putting '£xx,995' or '£xx,999', but 4??? yikes

nunpuncher

3,615 posts

146 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Some things are best left forgotten.

Gorbva-chav

21 posts

64 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Struggle to see the appeal in a leggy one at 2k - surely buy an ST200 for the money, or a racing puma if you can...

Gecko1978

12,285 posts

178 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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I was doing the usual surf the classifieds for cool left fiekd stuff you would buy if the numbers came up because sometimes you don't want a super car to go to Tesco etc. Anyway there was an old primeria that caught my eye and the seller had loads of stuff that looked like modern classic cool but none were this expensive. To my mind its nice if you want one but only at half the price as it was not an era defining var unlike say the clio or the type r

mooseracer

2,542 posts

191 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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EK9_CTR said:
EP3 Civic Type R was miles better IMO.
and was also a Focus rival, not a Fiesta

mintmansam

475 posts

62 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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How strange, just gave mine a good clean last weekend. Exactly same spec but mines been driven the right amount 96,000 owned it for 9 years. I love the hydraulic rack and the NA Engine. 6th gear is all I wanted from it but now I’m over it, 5 close gear ratios is good for fun. A Mk7 ST Left whilst this stayed. Torque wise it’s the same as most 2.0s of the era it just dips a little above 6,000rpm. No TC or SM just ABS it’s a great car, the Mk7 is quicker and sharper and more efficient, but it terms feel the Mk6 still has it. Personally I think it’s a fantastic looking car, no strange angles that make it look odd (mk7 side I’m loooking at you)

My dad has driven it a few times, been caught speeding, it does goad you on.

Only modification is the Zetec S wheels to take the edge of the ride (for daily duties)

At least now it has a lovely stable mate





Edited by mintmansam on Monday 22 March 16:43


Edited by mintmansam on Monday 22 March 16:51

WCZ

11,243 posts

215 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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I quite liked the handling of mine, the mk7st has to be one of the biggest upgrades i've ever seen on a car though - it's just so much better in every way