RE: Mercedes-AMG E43 estate | Spotted
RE: Mercedes-AMG E43 estate | Spotted
Tuesday 27th April 2021

Mercedes-AMG E43 estate | Spotted

Remember the rare, 400hp AMG estate that isn't an E63? This one is £40k...



In the coming weeks, there will be plenty of the new Mercedes-AMG E63 S to get your teeth into on PH: saloon and wagon tested, written and video reviews, the whole shebang. Because there's a sneaking suspicion there won't be many more 600hp E-Classes to follow these ones - at least not with purely V8 power, that is. Plus, well, they were awesome before, and not much has changed for this update - so why wouldn't we test both?

However, the usual caveats will surely apply when testing a very new and very fast car. First is cost: the new E63 will surely be an epic supersaloon, but as a wagon it costs £101,495 before any options are added. A prodigious sum of money. The second concern is, bluntly, driving a 612hp car in the UK and not getting into some trouble. The E63 was simply that good before that it was easy to be travelling far faster than you expected to be. Or ought to have been. There are worse problems to have, sure, but it's a problem nonetheless. Surely the ideal, therefore, would be a car with some AMG influence but at a rather less prohibitive cost - and potentially with a bit less power, too.

That car looks something like the E43. It's a curious car, the '43, for having spent so little time on sale. It was announced in 2016, launched in 2017 and then replaced by the electrified '53 in 2018, meaning fewer than a thousand are believed to be in the UK. It's perhaps a sign for the rate of progress at AMG that a car as good as the E43 was on sale for such a short period of time.

It really was worthy of attention, the E43. Power from the biturbo 3.0-litre V6 was increased over the C43 to 401hp, which still only trails the current '53 by 34hp. There was an AMG-specific 31:69 split for the 4Matic all-wheel drive, plus bespoke bits like new steering knuckles, stiffer bushes and geo tweaks for increased negative camber at the front axle. The E43 wasn't the full AMG overhaul, of course, but it was more than just an E-Class with a bit more power.


As such, it made for a very desirable performance offering, fast in all conditions, two-thirds the price of an E63, with a more accommodating ride to boot. Not the most thrilling of AMGs, yes, but then that was never really the point. For those who didn't fancy the idea of getting the family into an SUV, it was a very attractive alternative.

Five years after its launch, you'll find quite a few E43s for sale, with a pretty even split between saloons and estates - it's seldom that a coupe comes up. The highest mileage cars have now dropped to £30k from a new price nearer twice that, but this particular '43 wagon appeals for the opposite reason, as it's covered just 6,000 miles in three years. For a car so explicitly designed to carry plenty of things to plenty of places with plenty of performance, it's notable that it's been so sparingly used. But that means it presents quite an opportunity to the next owner: as a Premium Plus this E43 will have been in excess of £60k new, yet now is for sale at two thirds of that: £40,990.

Though white will not be everyone's cup of tea for a big estate, that sort of saving makes the E43 pretty hard to ignore. There are others available, of course, some for less money with more miles, or a little over £40k for those being sold in the MB dealer network. For those willing to buy from an independent dealer, this particular wagon is an intriguing option. That is, assuming the appeal of a V8 Audi S6 could be ignored, perhaps even more subtle and packing additional power from its 4.0-litre engine. Good luck finding one of those with so few miles, though...


SPECIFICATION | MERCEDES-AMG E43 4MATIC ESTATE

Engine: 2,996cc, V6 turbocharged
Transmission: 9G-Tronic Plus, all-wheel drive
Power (hp): 401@6,100rpm
Torque (lb ft): 384@2,500-5,000rpm
0-62mph: 4.7sec
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
MPG: 33.6 (NEDC combined)
CO2: 197g/km
Year registered: 2018
Recorded mileage: 6,000
Price new: £58,290 (2017, before options, non-Premium Plus)
Yours for: £40,990

See the original advert here.




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sidesauce

Original Poster:

2,967 posts

240 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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If white isn't your colour, arguably one could have it wrapped? I know there are convincing, non-crazy options available...

Spiros115

401 posts

72 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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But you can also have an e63 of similar age (yes with more miles but still under 40k) for around £50k, I think that is probably the best value fast car going considering practicality and luxury and that is the one that would be on my drive!

wastedyouth86

850 posts

64 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Spiros115 said:
But you can also have an e63 of similar age (yes with more miles but still under 40k) for around £50k, I think that is probably the best value fast car going considering practicality and luxury and that is the one that would be on my drive!
Would agree apart from the crazy insurance prices, when i was looking at a 63s in e class estate form and glc form, the quotes where over £2500 a year, which for me was a big deciding factor. I would guess the 43 would be a lot more affordable over all.


Edited by wastedyouth86 on Tuesday 27th April 07:56

Harrypop

2,611 posts

144 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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PH writes an article, and goes to great length, to highlight why the chosen car in question could make the perfect alternative to an E63. The second comment on the article is "But you could buy an E63!" Brilliant.

cerb4.5lee

40,987 posts

202 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Funnily enough one of these pulled up alongside me at the lights yesterday when I was in my 370Z. I clocked the bi-turbo badge on the side and I decided not to take him on(I do usually enjoy a bit of the traffic light grand prix though)! My torque light NA engine wouldn't have been any match for that for sure.

The engine in these is an engine that I'd really like to experience for definite. driving

anonymous-user

76 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Harrypop said:
PH writes an article, and goes to great length, to highlight why the chosen car in question could make the perfect alternative to an E63. The second comment on the article is "But you could buy an E63!" Brilliant.
For 25% more money and more miles too. Great!

ducnick

2,116 posts

265 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Use the money saved by not buying the 63 to pay for the lap dancer in the passenger seat.

Alex_225

7,319 posts

223 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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As a car in it's own right, I can imagine this would make a fantastic daily car. I mean, no it's not full bore AMG and if I owned one perhaps I'd de-badge it for that reason but a family car that hits 60 in under 5 seconds is pretty good going.

It's biggest issue is the E63 being so close in price. Once these hit rock bottom prices and these come in notably lower than the E63 it would make more sense in my eyes.

Arsecati

2,722 posts

139 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Could we please stop calling it a 'Wagon', this isn't 'Murica. It's an 'Estate': thank you.

jason61c

5,978 posts

196 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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I test drove one of these and an e400d estate.

I got the e400d, its quicker in the real world as its got the same torque as an e63 but from 1200rpm, its 340bhp, does 40mpg and even revs well.

Just lacking a little of the noise.

cerb4.5lee

40,987 posts

202 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Alex_225 said:
As a car in it's own right, I can imagine this would make a fantastic daily car. I mean, no it's not full bore AMG and if I owned one perhaps I'd de-badge it for that reason but a family car that hits 60 in under 5 seconds is pretty good going.

It's biggest issue is the E63 being so close in price. Once these hit rock bottom prices and these come in notably lower than the E63 it would make more sense in my eyes.
It does have a decent turn of pace for the weight I reckon. Obviously the goto one is the E63, but I like how these might be a touch easier on the pocket to run. I've considered the SLC43 with the same engine a few times in the past too.

I was behind a C43 Convertible once and that made a really nice noise I thought.

cerb4.5lee

40,987 posts

202 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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jason61c said:
I test drove one of these and an e400d estate.

I got the e400d, its quicker in the real world as its got the same torque as an e63 but from 1200rpm, its 340bhp, does 40mpg and even revs well.

Just lacking a little of the noise.
I was really hoping that Mercedes were going to put that engine into the GLC to be fair. They didn't sadly...so it means now that I will hang onto the GLC350d(V6 3.0) instead(I don't fancy another 4 cylinder diesel engine in a car that heavy and I tried that once in a 520d Touring).

I've read so many great things about the new straight 6 diesel 400d engine. thumbup

SweptVolume

1,160 posts

115 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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ducnick said:
Use the money saved by not buying the 63 to pay for the lap dancer in the passenger seat.
Pleased somebody else has noticed what a Las Vegas vomiting mess that interior is.

SM1

68 posts

188 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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The E43 / E53 and 400d estates are on my test drive short list for a replacement for my current car. The 400d appeals the most on paper as it's a fair bit cheaper to buy second hand and as so many of my miles are on motorways and dual carriageways I don't think I'd benefit from the AMG related changes to the suspension etc.

However, living just inside the North Circular in London, and with the likely expansion of the ULEZ and the inevitable tightening rules in years to come, I'm a bit unsure about how long I could run the 400d for.

Anyway, I'll book in my test drives and go from there but I suspect a 400d estate will be a v good choice


TonyG2003

258 posts

114 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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I’ve got a E43 estate and I got it for a couple of reasons but one of the main reasons why I got it over a E63 was sadly I’d heard of too many people being burgled - sometimes with violence - for their E63. Just don’t want that hassle and a de-badged E43 is pretty under the radar. Also the E43 was the only other non-E63 petrol available for sale at the time. I didn’t want a diesel.

It’s a pretty good car. 30mpg, fast enough, big old bus. It handles well enough but I have track based cars for comparisons

anonymous-user

76 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Alex_225 said:
As a car in it's own right, I can imagine this would make a fantastic daily car. I mean, no it's not full bore AMG and if I owned one perhaps I'd de-badge it for that reason but a family car that hits 60 in under 5 seconds is pretty good going.

It's biggest issue is the E63 being so close in price. Once these hit rock bottom prices and these come in notably lower than the E63 it would make more sense in my eyes.
I'd debadge any real AMG car too, that badge has become as embarrasing as "Kappa" now it's plastered on every boat anchor cast alloy 20" option wheel and renault engined diesel hatchback.

Tim bo

1,956 posts

162 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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SweptVolume said:
ducnick said:
Use the money saved by not buying the 63 to pay for the lap dancer in the passenger seat.
Pleased somebody else has noticed what a Las Vegas vomiting mess that interior is.
The interior is generally ok.

It is only when the configurable interior lights are set to red or purple or similar garishness that it takes on the appearance of a Turkish brothel.


Court_S

14,530 posts

199 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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SweptVolume said:
ducnick said:
Use the money saved by not buying the 63 to pay for the lap dancer in the passenger seat.
Pleased somebody else has noticed what a Las Vegas vomiting mess that interior is.
I noticed as well. Not my cup of tea at all, but I appreciate that I’m in the minority not liking modern Mercedes interiors.

The Vambo

7,306 posts

163 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Arsecati said:
Could we please stop calling it a 'Wagon', this isn't 'Murica. It's an 'Estate': thank you.
Avant, Wagon and Touring are in common use, try not to be a pompous tit. Thank you.

jason61c

5,978 posts

196 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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SM1 said:
The E43 / E53 and 400d estates are on my test drive short list for a replacement for my current car. The 400d appeals the most on paper as it's a fair bit cheaper to buy second hand and as so many of my miles are on motorways and dual carriageways I don't think I'd benefit from the AMG related changes to the suspension etc.

However, living just inside the North Circular in London, and with the likely expansion of the ULEZ and the inevitable tightening rules in years to come, I'm a bit unsure about how long I could run the 400d for.

Anyway, I'll book in my test drives and go from there but I suspect a 400d estate will be a v good choice
it passes future emissions, so you should be safe for 10 years?

The 400d just makes a lot more torque than the e43/53 and not much less power. given what a great unit the engine is, you wont feel let down.