Can anyone explain the idea behind the new fuel regs
Discussion
The ethanol thing?
They're increasing the proportion of ethanol in petrol from 5% to 10% so each litre of fuel produces slightly less CO2 when burned and requires less crude oil, most cars from 2011 onwards should be fine with it, some older engines can't handle it.
I don't see it as a step to electrification, but it's an easy (and thus politically convenient/lazy) way to reduce CO2 emissions in the uk.
They're increasing the proportion of ethanol in petrol from 5% to 10% so each litre of fuel produces slightly less CO2 when burned and requires less crude oil, most cars from 2011 onwards should be fine with it, some older engines can't handle it.
I don't see it as a step to electrification, but it's an easy (and thus politically convenient/lazy) way to reduce CO2 emissions in the uk.
Boosted LS1 said:
Will suppliers still supply suitable fuel for older engines?
Yes the higher octane stuff is e5 (5%) apparently. I guess it will be scare mongering like unleaded fuel. Some companies will make magic potions for you to add to your fuel, some will even sell you magic pellets. But as with unleaded it will all be forgotten about in 5 or so years. Yes I know some still buy aditives for unleaded but they really don't need to.This was discussed a few months ago here.
Here is a link to check car’s suitability
https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-e10-petrol
Here is a link to check car’s suitability
https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-e10-petrol
Funkstar De Luxe said:
What a scam this is. Ethanol has less specific energy than petroleum. It means you’ll need to burn more to get the same distance.
Also, three of my cars are pre 2011. What the f
k can I do?!
Indeed, anyone who has “accidentally” filled up with e10 will substantiate your claim. I did this a few months ago. 200 less kms on a 100 litre tank of fuel and a check engine light. Also, three of my cars are pre 2011. What the f
k can I do?!
This has been discussed here https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=18...
Looking at the checker, the vast majority of cars bought in the last 20 years are fine, which means most cars on the road are fine. The exceptions are generally some of the early direct injection pioneers - anyone own up to running a Mitsubishi Carisma GDI ?
Normally when people keep a car over 20 years old it's because it's a high performance car, and they run it on Super, which isn't changing formulation - only the regular 95 RON unleaded is moving to E10.
So yeah, there are some older cars currently run on 95, which should probably switch to Super now.
It's not ideal, but it doesn't seem like a huge downside to me. I'd rather they reduce net CO2 emissions by 5% by doing this, than by say reducing motorway speed limits to 60 nationwide, or ramping up petrol taxes.
The thing I'd really like to understand: just where is that ethanol sourced from?
If it's US corn for example, then the whole thing is fkery in terms of climate 'benefit' - ethanol from US corn : making one gal requires over 2gallsof diesel in farm production - for example. Yep, the US Corn Lobby is that strong... (and such data is widely available online)
So - setting-aside concerns as to the end result - just where is the 10% sourced?
If it's US corn for example, then the whole thing is f
kery in terms of climate 'benefit' - ethanol from US corn : making one gal requires over 2gallsof diesel in farm production - for example. Yep, the US Corn Lobby is that strong... (and such data is widely available online)So - setting-aside concerns as to the end result - just where is the 10% sourced?
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