RE: BMW M4 Competition manual (F82) | Spotted
RE: BMW M4 Competition manual (F82) | Spotted
Tuesday 19th April 2022

BMW M4 Competition manual (F82) | Spotted

There won't be any more M4 manuals - but there are a few old ones...



We all know why the manual gearbox was dropped for the BMW M3 and M4 - not enough people bought them. No car manufacturer is going to make what isn't going to sell, however much some people say they want it. Even for the smaller BMW M2, where the six-speed was generally accepted as a better fit for the car than the seven-speed auto, the DCT massively outsold the three-pedal version. And the new G8x era of BMW M3 and M4 are fantastic with an eight-speed torque converter. Obviously, a manual wasn't coming here for those cars - the demand just wasn't there.

But it is on offer in the US, and a few reviews we've seen have praised the appealing combination of six gears, three pedals, nearly 500hp and rear-wheel drive. And call it missing what you had when it's gone or whatever, but it helps to make those previous generation (and very rare) M4s with the DIY transmission look even more interesting just a few years later.

This one looks especially nice, and is probably one of the last manuals sold here, registered in 2018 and 22,000 miles old. It's a Competition car (meaning more power and tweaked suspension) yet goes without any badging, and comes with the wheels more commonly seen on the CS model. Maybe white won't be to all tastes, though neither will an M4 like this spark outrage quite like a new one. And that's before talking about the interior...



At just four years old, it's too early to talk about the future for a car like this one, but it's surely going to have enduring appeal to a committed few with the manual gearbox. More relevant for right now is the fact the M4 - especially in Competition format - came really good in the end, a match for all that Mercedes-AMG, Audi and Alfa Romeo could throw at it. This will remain a brilliant car to drive for a long while yet and - cliché alert - maybe all the M car you'd need. Because, great though it is, an £80k M4 can feel a bit much sometimes.

This manual is for sale at Sytner Coventry BMW for £40,000; perhaps it's an unreasonable comparison, but a new M135i currently retails at £38,440 - £40k doesn't seem an awful lot for an M car of this calibre. It has CarPlay, Harmon Kardon sound, electric seats and, really, every bit of equipment you're going to need. With a 450hp 3.0-litre straight-six, rear-wheel drive and a manual gearbox. They really don't make them like they used to (over here); often that's for the best, but we surely aren't alone in seeing the appeal of this old-schooler.


SPECIFICATION | BMW M4 COMPETITION (F82)

Engine: 2,979cc, twin-turbo straight six
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 450@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 406@1,850rpm
MPG: 34 (DCT, NEDC test)
CO2: 194g/km (DCT, NEDC test)
First registered: 2018
Recorded mileage: 22,000
Price new: £60,355 (M3, 2017)
Yours for: £40,000

See the original advert here




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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

77 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Great looking M4 manual for 40k? Anyone buying a new one needs their head examined!

V12GT

590 posts

113 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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£40k? That actually seems "reasonable"! Might be a classic in 10-20 years' time too...

whp1983

1,306 posts

162 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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I had a manual E92 M3, I like changing cogs myself, however, I will acknowledge it wasn’t the greatest gear change in the world….. did it improve with the M4? I feel the DCT suited it much better.

Compared to say the Honda S2000 I had (and civic type R) which was epic manual gearbox.

jackcactii

279 posts

61 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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whp1983 said:
I had a manual E92 M3, I like changing cogs myself, however, I will acknowledge it wasn’t the greatest gear change in the world….. did it improve with the M4? I feel the DCT suited it much better.

Compared to say the Honda S2000 I had (and civic type R) which was epic manual gearbox.
Yes, the manual box in the F8x M cars was much improved over the old E9x unit. Obviously not Honda/Porsche-level epic still.

6th gear a bit too short for morning motorway slog, but it is indeed a lot of fun on country roads and track. Very good throttle response to blip downshifts yourself in Sport+ as well.

Mysstree

547 posts

69 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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You can still get a horse and cart as well.

stuckmojo

3,913 posts

211 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Looks so clean and purposeful.

Makes me hate the new tapir one even more

Groaver

77 posts

56 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Mysstree said:
You can still get a horse and cart as well.
Yes and the electrics are far more reliable.
The emissions are nothing to write home about though

wpa1975

13,703 posts

137 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Looks so much better than the latest one and a manual, does not seem to badly priced in todays market as well.

Jon_S_Rally

4,312 posts

111 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Not a bad looking car by any means, though I always thought the M3 of this vintage looked better. These always look like they need lowering a bit to me.

It always seems amusing to me that the US is still getting manual versions of cars where we only get the DCT/auto. We always look at them as only wanting auto cars, and they probably look at us as wanting manual. Seems like the US is becoming one of the last bastions of fun/interesting cars while Europe falls over itself to go EV and autonomous.

cerb4.5lee

41,674 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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whp1983 said:
I had a manual E92 M3, I like changing cogs myself, however, I will acknowledge it wasn’t the greatest gear change in the world….. did it improve with the M4? I feel the DCT suited it much better.

Compared to say the Honda S2000 I had (and civic type R) which was epic manual gearbox.
I had a manual E92 M3 as well, and I would've preferred a manual rather than the DCT in my F82 M4(a 2018 model with 20k miles on it now), but the choice(colour/spec) just wasn't there when I was looking.

I can't believe that I'm actually saying this...but I do think that the DCT suits the F82 M4. However I'd love to try this manual version to compare though. This one has the full leather which is a nice option to have I reckon.

Shiv_P

3,008 posts

128 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Very similar money to an M2C manual, not a bad price TBH

mrclav

1,645 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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fblm said:
Great looking M4 manual for 40k? Anyone buying a new one needs their head examined!
Why exactly does anyone buying a new M4 instead of this secondhand car need their head examined?

The new car comfortably outperforms this one. I wouldn't ever drive a manual car again and clearly I'm not in the minority as the take-up of manual cars in this segment is very poor which is exactly why cars like this aren't sold with manual transmissions any more!

nickfrog

24,255 posts

240 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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fblm said:
Great looking M4 manual for 40k? Anyone buying a new one needs their head examined!
Strange post. What if they prefer a new one?

James Junior

856 posts

180 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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I had an M4 Competition for an extended test drive two years ago and it was awful to drive. Just couldn't get over how bad the ride was and struggled to put it's full power down even in the dry, tramlining all over the place. We couldn't wait to get it back to the dealership.

Ended up buying a Giulia QV which in my experience is a better car in every regard, albeit without a manual option in the UK.

cerb4.5lee

41,674 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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James Junior said:
I had an M4 Competition for an extended test drive two years ago and it was awful to drive. Just couldn't get over how bad the ride was and struggled to put it's full power down even in the dry, tramlining all over the place. We couldn't wait to get it back to the dealership.

Ended up buying a Giulia QV which in my experience is a better car in every regard, albeit without a manual option in the UK.
On a warm dry day, and when you have some temperature in the tyres, you can get all the power down pretty easily from my experience(you can still get the rears spinning if you floor it in 2nd even in the dry though). However if it is cold or wet...then you don't stand a chance!

The ride in my none CP with the 19" wheels is my biggest gripe with the car though.

cerb4.5lee

41,674 posts

203 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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nickfrog said:
fblm said:
Great looking M4 manual for 40k? Anyone buying a new one needs their head examined!
Strange post. What if they prefer a new one?
I'd absolutely love a G82 M4 xDrive one day for sure. I wouldn't have to be so gentle with the throttle over the winter like I've had to be in the F82 M4 in comparison either.

Augustus Windsock

3,713 posts

178 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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I’ve been looking at and admiring these in equal parts for a few months although my personal preference would be the 4 door with DCT gearbox, if only to make it easier to drive foe my wife (she struggled with a manual these days due to a medical condition)
The usual arguments apply to this, why buy new when you can buy this, why have a manual / DCT etc and I guess it comes down to personal preference, how much you have available to spend and what PCP deals are available.
If it were me I’d have this over a break version, but then I’d have 4 over 2 doors and DCT over manual…

Water Fairy

6,448 posts

178 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Looks great value to me but apologies I must be pedantic here and say that 444 bhp is not 'almost 500bhp......'

This shows how strong prices are for the M2C

However I prefer this one..............

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202202102...

Edited by Water Fairy on Tuesday 19th April 10:08

nickfrog

24,255 posts

240 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Water Fairy said:
Looks great value to me but apologies I must be pedantic here and say that 450 bhp is not 'almost 500bhp......'

This shows how strong prices are for the M2C
I think it refers to the manual/non Comp version of the current M3/M4 which are 480ps in the US or Germany. Still not quite 500 though.

Augustus Windsock

3,713 posts

178 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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nickfrog said:
Water Fairy said:
Looks great value to me but apologies I must be pedantic here and say that 450 bhp is not 'almost 500bhp......'

This shows how strong prices are for the M2C
I think it refers to the manual/non Comp version of the current M3/M4 which are 480ps in the US or Germany. Still not quite 500 though.
Or to be a pedantic pedant, isn’t it actually 450 PS, 444 BHP?