RE: Audi A4 Avant (B6) | Shed of the Week
RE: Audi A4 Avant (B6) | Shed of the Week
Friday 22nd April 2022

Audi A4 Avant (B6) | Shed of the Week

Quattro, manual, petrol V6, wagon - what more could you possibly want?



Acid can be dodgy stuff. You really don't want to be drinking it unless it's acetic acid on your chips or citric acid in your G&T. In the days when Mrs Shed prepared jam sandwiches for Shed's lunch he regularly picked up a whiff of stronger, more industrial acids whenever he opened the Tupperware box. He's never been able to prove anything in a court of law but he knows for a fact that she once put neat bleach on the toilet seat just before his morning constitutional. This resulted in some unseemly foaming of the undercarriage and a fair amount of screaming.

Human skin is acidic, thankfully only very weakly so, but when you look at many German cars of a certain age you do wonder about its chemical interaction with the coating they used to put on switchgear and the like. Very much like Mrs Shed, that rubbery stuff seemed to react quite poorly to human touch.

Today's sub-£1,500 offering, an Audi A4 Avant, is a good example of this weird phenomenon. The coatings on pretty much all its touchy feely surfaces - switches, gearknob, steering wheel - have deteriorated badly. The rest of the proposition looks borderline exciting though. Why? Because this is no common or garden 1.8 petrol or 1.9 diesel A4. It's a 3.0-litre 30-valve V6 petrol, which puts it right behind the 4.2-litre V8 S4 in the gen-two A4 pecking order.


When new, you could pair that 3.0 engine up with a 5-speed manual gearbox or a flawed and troublesome Multitronic CVT auto, both of which would be front-wheel drivers. You could have it with quattro all-wheel drive and a Tiptronic auto. Or, if you were a powerfully-built PH director type clambering hard up the greasy pole of life, you could have it with the quattro and a six-speed manual box. Saints be praised, that's the one we've got here today.

You were doing well if you had any sort of B6 A4 Avant as your company motor back in 2003. Even a basic model was regarded as a cool and thoughtful choice. The 3.0 was the IDGAF choice. It poked out 217hp at a lofty 6,300rpm and 221lb ft at a more useful 3,200rpm. That was enough to push its nicely resolved 1,570kg shape along at 150mph, en route to which it would potentially have covered the 0-60mph dash in 7.1sec.

If the B6's famously hard seats could talk, they might now be saying 'told you we were right' because the best part of two decades after this car rolled off the line there's very little wear or bolster subsidence on show. They're not leather, which is a shame, but if they had been the asking price would most likely have been more than £1,490.


Assuming you can afford the running costs on a 3.0 six - the fuel will disappear at the rate of 25mpg if you're lucky, 20 or less if you're not, and the tax is £360 a year - what can you expect to go wrong? Well, if you hear a ticking from the top end it might be that the cam lobes are worn. That mainly affected 2002 cars but wasn't restricted to them. The timing belt, water pump and thermostat definitely needed to be changed every 75,000 miles, and that wasn't an easy or a cheap job. The PCV system could clog up and vacuum hoses rotted for fun. Diffs could leak, coolant temperature sensors and catalytic converters conked out, wheel bearings died and of course coils blew.

At higher 100k-plus mileages you needed to keep an eye on the fuel pump and dual mass flywheel. Generally speaking however the engine is a solid and steady unit that, interestingly, responds well to supercharging. Inside, B6 glove boxes are famous for breaking. Round the back, subframes and floors rust. So do the wheel arches. Handily there has been no mention of corrosion on any of the previous MOTs going back to 2007.

The current MOT on this car is good to the end of August and has just two minor advisories on it, one for a less than perfect steering rack gaiter and one for a non-excessive oil leak, which probably explains the presence of the oil bottle in the boot. That's unusual for one of these actually. The oil leak, not the bottle in the boot. Shed keeps a bottle in the front of everything he drives but in his case it usually contains supermarket-brand brown ale.


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Filibuster

Original Poster:

3,358 posts

235 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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I had a B6 Avant in S4 form and still miss it today. The wife claims to this date, that it has been her favourite car of all the ones we ever owned.

The size of these is just right! They look great, even today! The Quattro system really is superb! Of course, mine benefited from a glorious 4.2 V8, which was addictive. I’m sure the V6 is adequate tough.

The B6 was such a good car, that Seat kept on building it until 2014!

Stoned

113 posts

149 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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I still have a B6 saloon with the dependable 1.9pd and a light remap to 170bhp. Utterly dependable, parts are still plentiful and very little goes wrong. I must be lucky with mine, even the glovebox is in one piece! The soft touch plastics are crap, I changed my climate control unit for a less worn second hand unit from eBay for £15 because the original was so worn.

One of those cars that isn't exciting in any way, yet will always get you there and still hits 61mpg on a long run if you stick in in 6th and keep speed to 60mph.


Stoned

113 posts

149 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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As a sidenote I once spoke to an owner of one of these 3.0 v6 models and he claimed with cams and a remap it had made 272bhp on a dyno. No idea if that's true but he made it sound very tunable for a NA engine.

Turbobanana

7,645 posts

221 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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PH said:
Quattro, manual, petrol V6, wagon - what more could you possibly want?
Colour?
Any discernable sense of style?
Character?

This car is practically invisible.

I've never warmed to this shape, although I like the ones before and after. I know my view won't be popular but hey, that's what forums are for, right?

anonymous-user

74 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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I had the saloon version, albeit Sport spec and it remains one of my favourite cars. Sold due to lack of space in the back thanks to my wife buying some ludicrously massive car-seat for our infant daughter.

Guy who ran the indie garage that serviced it bought it, used it sparingly, then he sold it to my brother who still has it and swears by it.

He now wants a Discovery so he can move more family & friends around and I’ve said I’d buy the Audi from him when the time comes. It’s still as tight as a drum and sails through the MOTs. It felt so right - just enough of everything (apart from rear leg-room).

Great shed.

Stoned

113 posts

149 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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Yeah rear leg room.is shocking for the size of the car, my old mk1 Focus had more. Also if you buy one make sure the rear seats fold down! Ludicrously this was an option that not all (including mine) have and it's such a pain!

Court_S

14,475 posts

197 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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Personally, I always quite liked the B6. It’s quite bland but smart and inoffensive.

They’re not particularly big cars but I’d consider it for that sort of cash, plus it’s not a four pot.

mersontheperson

730 posts

185 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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Always makes me chuckle when the journos turn their noses up at Japanese cars of the same period, complaining that the plastics switches around the driver are ‘hard touch’
As compared to supposedly superior European ‘soft touch’ materials.

There is a difference between cheap brittle plastics and high quality durable plastic, how soft it is to touch seems pointless to me. But I am weird, I like stainless steel cutlery


Edited by mersontheperson on Friday 22 April 07:50

Filibuster

Original Poster:

3,358 posts

235 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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Just had a look at my old S4. It's incredible how the interior changes when you have those lovely nappa-leather Recaro seats, oem radio, buttons that are not worn and most importantly, an all black ceiling!

cerb4.5lee

40,204 posts

200 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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A V6 NA engine mated to a manual gearbox was always my favourite combination with cars years ago(I've had 2 V6 XR4x4s and 2 V6 Mondeos all with a manual gearbox in the past). So this is definitely ticking the shed boxes for me.

I'd prefer a leather interior and a different exterior colour...but beggars can't be choosers though at this price. Count me in.


TerryFarquit

106 posts

147 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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The S4 was epic ( Clarkson and May reviewing it head to head with the E46 M3) :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xYqCVgVdq3I
and still miss mine.

This seems slightly anaemic by comparison, but still top shedding.

aestivator

257 posts

50 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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Turbobanana said:
Colour?
Any discernable sense of style?
Character?

This car is practically invisible.

I've never warmed to this shape, although I like the ones before and after. I know my view won't be popular but hey, that's what forums are for, right?
Likewise, it's far too blobby, and the rear lights look like something from an old Austin Rover.

apm142001

287 posts

109 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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aestivator said:
Turbobanana said:
Colour?
Any discernable sense of style?
Character?

This car is practically invisible.

I've never warmed to this shape, although I like the ones before and after. I know my view won't be popular but hey, that's what forums are for, right?
Likewise, it's far too blobby, and the rear lights look like something from an old Austin Rover.
Never been much of an Audi fan but to me this era of them now looks quite cleanly-styled compared with the overdesigned newer stuff around. Also, as Lee says, I feel like you can’t be too fussy at this price point - IF it’s a minor/fixable oil leak and its not doing a full Torrey Canyon impersonation this doesn’t look like a bad buy.

Filibuster

Original Poster:

3,358 posts

235 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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TerryFarquit said:
The S4 was epic ( Clarkson and May reviewing it head to head with the E46 M3) :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xYqCVgVdq3I
and still miss mine.

This seems slightly anaemic by comparison, but still top shedding.
Ah yes, because of that clip, Sade's Smooth Operator is known as "Audi Sound" between me and the oh biggrin

Maybe you are right, I'm projecting my memories of the S4 onto this car, but back in those days, an S4 was much more than just an other trim level, a different chip and a farty exhaust....

carinaman

23,969 posts

192 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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I am not sure it should have badge under the Quattro badge on the tailgate and shouldn't the lower mouldings on both bumpers be dark grey/black, not body coloured?

I doubt these can make 272bhp from a remap alone.

The B6 A4 estate is a nice shape, I often mistake them for C5 A6 estates, one of my favourite Audi designs.

Andy JB

1,320 posts

239 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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Strange I had both B5 and B7 variants and a C6 of same vintage, I dont recall interior plastics declining at all or even that it was a thing in period. The earlier B5 being 18 years old when it was sold, all well built with nice plastic quality i recall.

I imagine the 3.0 being a nice engine and the sweet spot. I had a 2.4 V6 and while not a hellraiser was incredibly smooth and creamy and more frugal than 3.0.

757

4,070 posts

131 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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Bland, boring looks, forgettable.

Must only be me, who strives to have a car (especially a daily car) that has these merits, anonymity to me is a good thing these days, why would people want to be noticed all the time.

Always liked these A4's, shame they are getting abit long in thr tooth now, they do seem very small by today's standards also, though they were quite small when they were new I seem to remember, but has to be the 1.9 lump unfortunately, wouldn't want to entertain anything else.

Still a smart, non fussy, non aggressive looking car, the way things use to be.

wpa1975

13,064 posts

134 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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Very bland and not the most sensible purchase with running costs etc.

BFleming

3,867 posts

163 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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carinaman said:
I am not sure it should have badge under the Quattro badge on the tailgate...
You mean the V6 badge that has been taken from something else, snapped in 2, and glued on to the Audi? No, I don't think it belongs either biggrin

aestivator

257 posts

50 months

Friday 22nd April 2022
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Looks like the SDV6 badge off a Range Rover