RE: 2023 Mercedes-AMG C63 S E Performance | PH Video
RE: 2023 Mercedes-AMG C63 S E Performance | PH Video
Monday 24th October 2022

2023 Mercedes-AMG C63 S E Performance | PH Video

Electrifying the C63 is a tough ask, but Mercedes-AMG is convinced it's pulled it off. We take a deep dive into the result


The C63 name, perhaps even AMG itself, is synonymous with V8 power. It’s been the flagship engine of hot Cs for nearly two decades, kept alive by trick split turbochargers and modest downsizing. But, as you’re doubtless well aware, AMG has taken a hacksaw to the concept and reduced its cylinder count by half. To say some fans are unhappy would be an understatement.

So while the new model bears the C63 name - which hasn’t been an accurate reflection of its displacement since, well, ever - it’s now completely meaningless given it’s shrunk to 2.0 litres. In place of the missing cylinders is an electric motor and a battery pack which, when combined with the pistons up front, can produce up to 680hp. That’s a monumental figure, blowing even the old C63 S out of the water. Needless to say, it's very much intended as the hook that AMG needs to get people to look past the missing V8.

We’ve already run through all the important on-paper bits of the C63 S E Performance, but this was our first chance to get up close and personal with the actual car. And, to clear this up nice and early: no, that sadly didn’t include firing up the new powertrain. Apparently, the car we filmed had a pre-production exhaust that bore zero resemblance to the final product. Even when we needed to move the thing for a new shot, the car was powered up in electric mode so the only noise we could hear was the sound of screeching rubber on the painted studio floor.

Fortunately, there's plenty more to get excited about. The engine is a reworked version of the four-pot in the A45 S and C43, which has been rotated 90 degrees and now sits longitudinally (hence the M139L codename). It still uses forced induction, only with a new electronically assisted exhaust gas turbocharger that pre-spools the turbine to ensure you’re never without power. AMG says this uses technology developed by its F1 engine squad at Brixworth, proving that the 1.6-litre V6 hybrid units did carry some degree of road relevance after all. It means the combustion engine alone produces 476hp – around 70hp more than the C43.

Of course, there’s also a chuffing big electric motor at the rear producing 204 all by itself. Obviously, the headline output is a combined figure - but it's also temporary. It arrives when you floor the throttle in one of the performance modes, with a bit of F1-derived software that’ll open the taps for ten seconds. AMG hasn’t supplied an exact figure on what the normal output is outside of this boost mode, as it depends on various factors, but it’s in the region of 550hp to 600hp. Still bonkers, then.

This has been made possible by some very clever battery technology that (you guessed it) is credited to Brixworth. The C63 S uses a 6.1kWh pack with 560 cells, each individually cooled with 14 litres of coolant. The trick here is the battery can be rapidly discharged and recharged, with AMG claiming it has double the efficiency of a conventional EV battery. So it means if you’re on a track day and use the ten-second boost mode, you should be able to recover enough battery to activate it again after a few corners of hard braking. Although ultimately once the battery charge is gone, it’s gone. The only way you can power it up again is by either plugging it in or using the combustion engine while on the move, which is thirsty business.

That being said, you can reserve some battery power to use at your leisure through the Battery Hold driving mode. It’s one of eight different settings, with all the usual players such as Comfort and Sport+, along with a Track mode that’ll put everything into its raciest mode and unlock that special 680hp boost setting. Toggling between them can be done using a dial on the lower right-hand side of the wheel, which sits opposite a similar dial that gives you quick access to different settings. Our car was configured for the gearbox and exhaust note, but you could swap one of them out for the dampers if you prefer.

Naturally, you can spend hours configuring the car and digging through all the menus. Track Pace, a returning AMG feature, lets you view telemetry that you can show your friends on the gigantic central display. It’ll also record your lap using front and rear-facing cameras, along with telemetry, and automatically send it to your phone for you to plaster all over social media. The best bit, though, is the new head-up display, which will not only project your racing line ahead of you when on a track day, but it’ll also show your ghost car for you to chase down. Which is a Playstation generation dream come true.

A quick note on the practical stuff. This is an estate, after all, and will likely be used as a daily driver. The problem here is that the batteries are located at the back of the car, creating a sizeable step up in the boot floor. There’s still plenty of space in the back, regardless - just marginally less than you might have expected. Those batteries can be used to travel up to eight miles on electric power alone, and you can configure the car to start in EV mode if you’re lucky enough to have nice neighbours.

There’s a lot to sink your teeth into with the new C63. Despite halving the cylinder count, AMG is hoping to win you back with some impressive technology, from the F1-inspired batteries to the video game-style track features. However, there are still lots of unanswered questions: not least whether or not the novelty of all this cutting-edge kit will wear off in the way the rumble of a V8 never did. After all, sounds and sensations were crucial to the old car, and while straight-line speed certainly matters, its enhancement doesn't automatically make for a better AMG. For its maker, this new C63 S E Performance isn't just a step ahead of its predecessor – it’s a giant leap. Having now met it in the metal, we can't wait to find out if that's true. 


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Silvanus

Original Poster:

6,904 posts

44 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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I'm a huge fan of big fast estate cars and this one sounds like its a technically excellent car. However, without the big V8 or even a even a V6 I don't see the point personally. I'd rather just get something totally different and would probably go full EV if I had that budget and wanted big and fast. I guess there will still be plenty of buyers that aren't bothered whats under the bonnet of their Merc AMG.

Evil.soup

4,047 posts

226 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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This one has me really torn, I do really really like it as I am a big estate fan, big power and very sleek styling. However, the C63 was always defined by the noise and I can't see the 2ltr engine will have anywhere near the same presence or character.

I have no doubt it will be an accomplished beast, just maybe not as interesting as it once was...shame...

Four Litre

2,174 posts

213 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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I just don't see the point of AMG any more if they are losing the V8's. I've had two (C55 and C63 PPP Coupe) and one things for sure, they categorically aren't about handling! They are straight line hooligan cars and without the sound and feel of the V8, what's left?

Sad times. Maybe younger drivers who haven't experienced an AMG V8 are going to be their target market from now on.

Me, I'm just glad I got to experience it when I could. Like the other poster said, you may as well go full EV and avoid the 4 pot.

big_rob_sydney

3,671 posts

215 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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So, really, it's 476 bhp plus an amount that you may, or may not get, for up to 10 seconds at a time at best?? WTAF...

ChrisCh86

1,077 posts

65 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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This car is incredibly complex. I'm sure it'll be reliable for those within warranty - but beyond it is surely going to be a nightmare to maintain.

Personally, I'd rather buy an older V8 Mercedes and a separate full EV - but I suppose this is for a (rich) customer who doesn't want the complexity of having more than 1 car if this can do it all.

I wonder what the BIK rates are for these for company car drivers? (or for the self-employed)

Julian Scott

4,308 posts

45 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Four Litre said:
Sad times. Maybe younger drivers who haven't experienced an AMG V8 are going to be their target market from now on.

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This could actually be the route to its success. A common route to an M3/C63/etc is increasingly an uber-hot hatch, almost all of which are 4-pots.

shugt

10 posts

39 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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previous V8 models values are going to firm up are they not??

Vee12V

1,402 posts

181 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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I find it hard to see the point in all this complexity. Like someone else said, I'd rather have an EV and a proper V8 AMG next to it.

DMC2

1,983 posts

232 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Without an engine with character why would you not just buy full electric?

Fetchez la vache

5,858 posts

235 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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The fact that you weren't allowed to hear it firing up probably tells you all you need to know...

emix

156 posts

138 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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I'm not paying what they're asking for a four pot. Earlier on another YT channel there was an interview with one of the engineers that worked on this car, he said there was no issue with using the V8 in it, they chose not to. I'm afraid this car will be to MB what the 4 pot 718 was to Porsche.

D4rez

1,668 posts

77 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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They should’ve gone full EV with this, sure right now you can get rivals with engines but the next 3 series is all electric and the RS4 is in runout with an all electric replacement

pb8g09

2,951 posts

90 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Be a brave pill once it’s out of warranty with all that technology. Should have skipped a step and gone full EV on it, but without it looking like Kirby’s fat bloated siblings like the rest of their EV range.

yme402

590 posts

123 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Marketing over substance which pretty much sums up Mercedes-Benz these days sadly.
No thanks.

The spinner of plates

18,080 posts

221 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Saw a YT vid of this new C63 on track.

Merc engineer was driving that Mat Watson chap - didn't really watch fully as I find his presenting style really hard work.

But it seems to be quite fast as expected!

Look forward to Henry C / Harry H / Matt Farah / Chris Harris getting their hands on it to see what they think.

SuperNiceBig

644 posts

254 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Fetchez la vache said:
The fact that you weren't allowed to hear it firing up probably tells you all you need to know...
Mercedes fine tuning a digital V8 exhaust sound track as we speak.

It is a technically amazing car I'm sure. Out of my price bracket, will stick with my V8 W205.

Edited by SuperNiceBig on Monday 24th October 15:39

147lusso

187 posts

163 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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This reads very much like a sponsored post..

nismo48

6,051 posts

228 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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A real technical tour de force..and will probably sell well..
AMG like a few specialist tuning companies have to adapt to the ever changing environment their in..
Good luck to them.. thumbup

JD

3,079 posts

249 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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Article said:
Apparently, the car we filmed had a pre-production exhaust that bore zero resemblance to the final product
spin

Julian Scott

4,308 posts

45 months

Monday 24th October 2022
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pb8g09 said:
Be a brave pill once it’s out of warranty with all that technology.
But that line has been trotted out perpetually since the early 1990s.