RE: Lotus Eletre R gets 905hp, £120k price tag
RE: Lotus Eletre R gets 905hp, £120k price tag
Tuesday 25th October 2022

Lotus Eletre R gets 905hp, £120k price tag

Lotus gunning for Aston Martin, Bentley and even BMW with confirmation of new electric SUV lineup


It would be fair to say that everybody has an opinion on the Lotus Eletre. Bringing together something as divisive as an electric SUV with a badge as storied as Lotus’s was always going to create some discussion - as more than 500 comments on the reveal story can attest. Now there’s some more information on exactly what those customers who’ve placed a deposit for an Eletre will get, with a three-model lineup and associated prices announced.  

There will be an Eletre, Eletre S and Eletre R offered, rekindling the good old days of Elises. Both standard and S have 603hp and 524lb ft, which Lotus says will be enough for a 4.5-second sprint to 62mph and 373 miles of range. Both will also be capable of 160mph. Earlier in the year, Lotus said the Eletre would support 350kW rapid charging, and suggested all models can be charged from 10-80 per cent (or 37 miles to 296 in the case of these models) in 20 minutes.  

The Eletre R sounds, quite frankly, a bit bonkers, and all the more interesting for it. It’s rated at 905hp and 726lb ft, sufficient to reach 62mph in just under three seconds and 165mph. Which will be quite the experience in something 5.1 metres long and 2.2m wide. Lotus’s stated aim of a 2,000kg kerbweight hasn’t yet been verified one way or the other. The range-topper also gets its own exclusive Track Mode, which apparently incorporates learnings from Nordschleife testing; a lower ride height and more focused settings for both dampers and anti-roll control promise ‘a higher level of dynamic performance at longitudinal and lateral limits for the most ambitious drivers.’ Stickier tyres as well as a Dynamic Handling Pack are standard for the R, though there isn’t any more detail than that for the moment.  

Buyers after the ultimate Eletre will be asked to part with £120,000 for an R, which actually compares quite favourably with cars like the 620hp, £117k BMW iX M60. The range starts at £89,500, with 22-inch wheels, active air suspension, torque vectoring and matrix LED lights among the standard kit. The £104,500 Eletre S adds to that a 2,160-watt, 23-speaker KEF Reference Audio sound system (in place of a 1,380-watt, 15-speaker one), an active rear spoiler and configurable ambient lighting, among other things.  

With pricing has come more information about the Eletre’s digital cabin, including Lotus Hyper OS. The operating system uses gaming industry tech, including two Qualcomm 8155 System-On-Chips, to offer a ‘seamless interactive experience that offers best-in-class performance in terms of visual effects and interactive feedback, putting the user - driver or passenger - in complete control’. Which sounds nice.

Additionally, the car will come with EV-specific navigation assistance thanks to HERE Technologies, plus something called a Digital Head Unit; once upon a time that would have been a single-DIN with an aux input, and now is fully customisable, ultra-slim screen with a one-billion-colour OLED display. The use of an ECARX dual-chip means it’ll stay up to date for the life of the car with over-the-air updates.

Oh yes, and every Eletre will be compatible with Dolby Atmos, promising audio that ‘takes listening to new heights through unparalleled depth, precision and clarity.’ However the Eletre turns out to drive, it should be a very special car to travel in. Somewhat against Lotus tradition, sure, but absolutely aligned with the preoccupations of the Chinese market. And fitting, really, for a luxury SUV with a six-figure price tag. 

Matt Windle said: “The launch of the Eletre is the natural next step for Lotus. Two-seater sports cars are not for everyone, and we want to offer a Lotus for every stage of your life. The Eletre is the start of that.” With thousands of deposit holders out there already, don’t be surprised if that number grows with this latest update. And prepare yourself for a very peculiar Lotus vs. BMW M vs. Mercedes-AMG SUV triple test when Eletre deliveries begin in the first half of 2023.  


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greggy50

Original Poster:

6,280 posts

221 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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I will be amazed if this is sub 2000kg, I just don't see how that is possible.

A Tesla Model Y is 1995kg and that is a smaller car and as basic as you can get really with a part ali construction.

A BMW IX is 2,450kg.

kbee540

218 posts

238 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Chapman, grave, spinning.....

rare6499

857 posts

169 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Another day, another electric SUV. Difficult to get remotely excited. Especially as I believe this is made in China? So long as it bolsters the finances of the company to keep its UK manufacturing and future sports cars. Otherwise, meh.

TGCOTF-dewey

7,883 posts

85 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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WTF can't I just have a round steering wheel anymore?

... the thing that really benefits from being round becuase you need rotate it?

Mr E

23,066 posts

289 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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It’s important to know about the screen and the hi-fi. I presume the press release was a little light on how it actually drives.

When is the first limited edition announced?

Miserablegit

4,442 posts

139 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Not sure “lighweight” is ever a selling point for these things.
I’ve got a family 4x4 and take comfort that it weighs as much as a house and should do far better in a RTA than a lightweight. I didn’t buy it for driver involvement.

OTOH my two-seater is a lightweight and that’s precisely why I bought it.

Miserablegit

4,442 posts

139 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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“ The use of an ECARX dual-chip means it’ll stay up to date for the life of the car with over-the-air updates.”

Hmm…we all know how a manufacturer’s view of “life of the car” differs to an owner’s view…I want more than the 3 year pcp life manufacturers aim at.

justa1972

342 posts

167 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Thought it was one of those horrible Lamborghini things…

Wab1974uk

1,397 posts

57 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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I'm sorry but 905 BHP is just stupid.

I wish Lotus all the success after years of struggling. However the one car that has relit their fire and consumer desirability, is the Emira. Not a 905 BHP Electric SUV.

Will be interesting to see how many orders they have taken for the Eletre compared to when they opened up the order books for the Emira.

J4CKO

46,839 posts

230 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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kbee540 said:
Chapman, grave, spinning.....
I think he would probably quite like it as Lotus was on the bones of its arse when he checked out, I think he would be pleased, but mainly amazed that they are still around despite all the odds, and would concede that you have to do what you can to sell stuff and survive.

People peg him as being 100 percent about lightweight, minimalist sports cars, but they released stuff like the Eclat and the Excel which though relatively light (though not especially so by the standards of the day) were fairly luxurious and upmarket, a bit like this....

Rumblestripe

4,072 posts

192 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Miserablegit said:
I’ve got a family 4x4 and take comfort that it weighs as much as a house and should do far better in a RTA than a lightweight.
Not necessarily, the fact it weighs more means that there is more energy to absorb in an RTA. I'm sure you remember the tests of (IIRC) a modern small car in an offset collision with a huge 60s Cadillac? Passenger cell intact on modern, multiple predicted fatalities in the Caddy.

Anywho.

It's a Leccy SUV. The future of personal transportation looks bleak doesn't it...

Roger Irrelevant

3,391 posts

143 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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greggy50 said:
I will be amazed if this is sub 2000kg, I just don't see how that is possible.

A Tesla Model Y is 1995kg and that is a smaller car and as basic as you can get really with a part ali construction.

A BMW IX is 2,450kg.
I was told on the last thread about the Eletre that - Lotus being Lotus - they have some pixie dust that they can sprinkle on it to make it 20% lighter than everybody else's massive E-SUV but still have the perceived quality/NVH etc that its buyers will expect. Everybody else's big E-SUVs are 400kgs heavier because they're a bit stupid. It does seem odd that they're still not confirming the 2000kg weight even though they've now got the final car ready and it would be a hell of an achievement to shout about, but I'm sure it will be 2000kg and not a gram more.

Edit: ...actually re-reading the article it seems that the final car isn't quite ready yet, so that'll be why the weight hasn't been confirmed at 2000kgs, only a matter of time though.

Edited by Roger Irrelevant on Tuesday 25th October 15:15

hu8742

366 posts

155 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Looks alright, just a shame its not made in Norfolk.

Isebac

251 posts

68 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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greggy50 said:
I will be amazed if this is sub 2000kg, I just don't see how that is possible.

A Tesla Model Y is 1995kg and that is a smaller car and as basic as you can get really with a part ali construction.

A BMW IX is 2,450kg.
The "sub 2000kg" has always been complete nonsense and pure dishonesty on their part. The BMW iX is ~2650kg with the 111kWh battery fitted. This has 112kWh battery and it's even slightly bigger. The Polestar 3 with the same battery pack and smaller dimensions is quoted at 2584kg. There is no way it's under 2500kg even in the base spec. The Eletre R might be closer to 2700kg. Hence why they revealed literally all the specs except for the weight...

Edited by Isebac on Tuesday 25th October 15:12

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,744 posts

128 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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J4CKO said:
kbee540 said:
Chapman, grave, spinning.....
I think he would probably quite like it as Lotus was on the bones of its arse when he checked out, I think he would be pleased, but mainly amazed that they are still around despite all the odds, and would concede that you have to do what you can to sell stuff and survive.

People peg him as being 100 percent about lightweight, minimalist sports cars, but they released stuff like the Eclat and the Excel which though relatively light (though not especially so by the standards of the day) were fairly luxurious and upmarket, a bit like this....
I often wonder about this famous quote and it's accuracy. Having owned an original elan, and read quite a bit about him, I think when he said "add lightness" he really meant "now take out cost and make them cheaper...."

NGK210

5,009 posts

175 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Has the styling been tweaked since the ‘reveal’ article?
Or maybe silver-grey + black roof is a more flattering colour combo? Whichever, this one looks cool(ish).
Meanwhile, let’s ignore the all-round nastiness of lithium battery production shall we – eg, the forced dispersing of indigenous communities to make way for mining projects.
Sustainability, anyone?

nismo48

7,070 posts

237 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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hu8742 said:
Looks alright, just a shame its not made in Norfolk.
Yep.... frown

Robertb

3,855 posts

268 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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Miserablegit said:
“ The use of an ECARX dual-chip means it’ll stay up to date for the life of the car with over-the-air updates.”

Hmm…we all know how a manufacturer’s view of “life of the car” differs to an owner’s view…I want more than the 3 year pcp life manufacturers aim at.
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ecs0set

2,525 posts

314 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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I guess it must be designed for track work as the front already looks like it has crashed into a tyre wall.

Vee12V

1,410 posts

190 months

Tuesday 25th October 2022
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I'm not saying Lotus shouldn't be building this SUVs but this thing looks absolutely horrendous. Both inside and out. You could see some resemblance in every generation of Cayenne with the rest of the line-up, but this is so bland that you could put any badge on it.