McMurtry Spéirling

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djneils98

Original Poster:

335 posts

164 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Carwow's youtube channel just posted a video where Matt drives this amazing car and he managed
0-60 mph in 1.4s
0-100 mph in 2.62s
0-145 mph in 4.93s
and the 1/4 mile in 7.97s

the crazy thing is the one he tested was the goodwood one that's limited to 150mph which Matt said he hit about halfway through his 1/4 mile run
Madness

Edited by djneils98 on Thursday 15th December 18:05

808 Estate

2,388 posts

105 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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I just saw that. The car is totally bonkers.

Paul_M3

2,495 posts

199 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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That was very impressive. And like the OP said, it basically spent 3 out of the 8 seconds for the 1/4 mile on the 150mph limiter.

I was actually surprised at the size of the battery pack. I thought it would be smaller. If true, 300 miles range on the WLTP is good.

Not that I can afford one, but 15 - 20 minutes on track and then a break of 25 minutes to recharge would fit in perfectly with how I normally approach open pitlane track days anyway. Wonder how long before all the circuits start fitting fast chargers in the pits? (Not thinking about this car specifically, but there will only be more track suitable electric cars as time goes on)

kambites

69,448 posts

235 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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That's properly mental. smile

Twice its weight in downforce from stationary!

mclwanB

624 posts

259 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Another new start up EV, 60kWh battery for a 300 mile range which is efficient

And the documented ability for a rwd car to do 0-100mph in 2.6 seconds (1.4 to 60, sub 8s quarter mile) and its straight line performance isn't as impressive as its handling which is 2 tonnes of fan assisted downforce (so it sounds like a jet). Might well remember it from going up a certain hill near Chichester..

https://mcmurtry.com/speirling/

But of course all electric cars are boring...

  • Edited to add reason this post sounds odd was it was the original first post (one in EVs) before someonefrom PH moved and merged with a fractionally earlier post in GG**
Edited by mclwanB on Wednesday 28th December 16:13

TheDeuce

28,050 posts

80 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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mclwanB said:
Another new start up EV, 60kWh battery for a 300 mile range which is efficient

And the documented ability for a rwd car to do 0-100mph in 2.6 seconds (1.4 to 60, sub 8s quarter mile) and its straight line performance isn't as impressive as its handling which is 2 tonnes of fan assisted downforce (so it sounds like a jet). Might well remember it from going up a certain hill near Chichester..

https://mcmurtry.com/speirling/

But of course all electric cars are boring...
I have used the footage of this thing doing the hill climb several times as an antidote to 'EV is dull'.

I'm certain that the crowd and the driver were not thinking it was remotely dull at the time!

Here it is again... Take note of the speed at which this thing changes direction and also it's post apex exit power. This is a magnitude above an f1 car.



It's just not dull, is it?

Old Man Peabody

669 posts

221 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

267 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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I absolutely love the reaction of the marshal on the right at the start line.

‘WTF!?’ in shrug format.

mclwanB

624 posts

259 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Looks like a mini Batmobile
Sounds like a jet
Corners/ laps as fast or faster than an F1 car (at least under some circumstances)
Accelerates like a dragster

Agree struggling to see how it's dull but I'm sure someone will be along to show us how we're wrong soon!

toasty

7,956 posts

234 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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Standing next to it at Goodwood, it looked tiny. It’s shorter than a Honda Beat and only just wider.

I’d love a go in one.

pingu393

9,516 posts

219 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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It would be interesting to see if it's faster than an F1 on a single lap of a GP circuit.

clived

577 posts

254 months

Thursday 15th December 2022
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TheDeuce said:
This is a magnitude above an f1 car.
It's about 2 1/2 seconds faster than a 23 year old F1 car up the hill. If by "magnitude" you mean "slightly" and by "an F1 car" you definitely don't mean a modern one, then sure. Otherwise, no.

whirlybird

650 posts

201 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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TheDeuce said:
I have used the footage of this thing doing the hill climb several times as an antidote to 'EV is dull'.

I'm certain that the crowd and the driver were not thinking it was remotely dull at the time!

Here it is again... Take note of the speed at which this thing changes direction and also it's post apex exit power. This is a magnitude above an f1 car.



It's just not dull, is it?
Not very practical for taking the wife & kids on holiday, unless they holiday in the street next door !!!!!

TGCOTF-dewey

6,469 posts

69 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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whirlybird said:
TheDeuce said:
I have used the footage of this thing doing the hill climb several times as an antidote to 'EV is dull'.

I'm certain that the crowd and the driver were not thinking it was remotely dull at the time!

Here it is again... Take note of the speed at which this thing changes direction and also it's post apex exit power. This is a magnitude above an f1 car.



It's just not dull, is it?
Not very practical for taking the wife & kids on holiday, unless they holiday in the street next door !!!!!
Have you not seen the video of the two booties strapped to the side of the Apache... Use your imagination man. There's plenty of space.

nordboy

2,363 posts

64 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Didn't I read somewhere that it's going to be £2million as well?

dapprman

2,577 posts

281 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Mat Watson at CarWow has now 'driven' it. I know he's marmite, but this video is rather amusing, especially his reaction while and after driving it.

coppice

9,189 posts

158 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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I saw this car - sadly on display only- at Silverstone last summer and was utterly blown away by it . I'd seen its astonishing pace up Goodwood (if only on TV ) but I wasn't prepared for the car in the flesh . I love small , potent cars and the Speirling is just tiny , almost like a scaled up model . And it looks amazing - it doesn't have the ' 'ere mate , you spilled my pint ' belligerence of most super and hyper cars , but still looks amazingly potent. The military grade satin grey finish and the very functional looking aero bits help to emphasise this impression.

The most interestng car of the year for me , and one would look nice in the garage next to a Wells Vertige . In matching grey , obvs

ETA - brilliant though it is, and road legal, its pace puts into very sharp focus just how other worldly fast a Top Fueller drag racer is ; or, come to think of it , quite a few drag cars lower down the order of bonkers-ness. , such as Pro Mod , with the record ss 1/4 in the fives - and 250mph ET

Edited by coppice on Friday 16th December 12:20

Randy Winkman

18,853 posts

203 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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coppice said:
I saw this car - sadly on display only- at Silverstone last summer and was utterly blown away by it . I'd seen its astonishing pace up Goodwood (if only on TV ) but I wasn't prepared for the car in the flesh . I love small , potent cars and the Speirling is just tiny , almost like a scaled up model . And it looks amazing - it doesn't have the ' 'ere mate , you spilled my pint ' belligerence of most super and hyper cars , but still looks amazingly potent. The military grade satin grey finish and the very functional looking aero bits help to emphasise this impression.

The most interestng car of the year for me , and one would look nice in the garage next to a Wells Vertige . In matching grey , obvs
The view out of the front of the McMurtry looks a bit awkward when seen in a pic in the brochure. I guess they've thought it through though.
https://mcmurtry.com/speirling/

I still like it but I love the Wells Vertige. Really nice.

SWoll

20,436 posts

272 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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I imagine 0-60 in 1.4, 0-100 in 2.63, 0-145 in 4.96 and a 1/4 mile in 7.97 would be a rather brain scrambling experience. The fact it was sat at 145mph for 3 seconds of the 1/4 mile run due to the gearing also made me laugh. biglaugh

My one question was, whilst I appreciate the full fan power offering 2000KG of downforce from stationary will certainly help with traction off the line, it must surely slow the car down once it's up to speed? Or does the fact it's not aero drag, as with DRS in F1, therefore mean it makes no difference?

GroundEffect

13,864 posts

170 months

Friday 16th December 2022
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Paul_M3 said:
That was very impressive. And like the OP said, it basically spent 3 out of the 8 seconds for the 1/4 mile on the 150mph limiter.

I was actually surprised at the size of the battery pack. I thought it would be smaller. If true, 300 miles range on the WLTP is good.

Not that I can afford one, but 15 - 20 minutes on track and then a break of 25 minutes to recharge would fit in perfectly with how I normally approach open pitlane track days anyway. Wonder how long before all the circuits start fitting fast chargers in the pits? (Not thinking about this car specifically, but there will only be more track suitable electric cars as time goes on)
Battery pack size is directly correlated to power output. I don't think people have got their heads around this stuff yet.

You're basically worried about the C rate of the cell. The higher the C rate, the more abuse the cell takes (durability and thermally).

If you want more power out of the battery to drive your motors, you can either increase voltage for a given current, or current for a given voltage. You are using multiple cells in series and parallel to get the voltage you want, and the C rate you can live with. Li Ion cells for EVs are typically ~3.7V each based on normal chemistry. So to get 400V you need ~100 of them in series. Then to stop ALL the current going through that string of cells, you can run strings in parallel to make it 1/2 or 1/3 or 1/4 through each cell. And by necessity each time you add one of these options, the pack gets bigger.