RE: Lotus Exige S RGB | PH Private Area
RE: Lotus Exige S RGB | PH Private Area
Monday 1st May 2023

Lotus Exige S RGB | PH Private Area

Most retirements come with a watch; Roger Becker's departure was marked with an epic Exige


Not so long ago, it was very hard to keep track of all the Lotus special editions. From Cup this to Essex that and then 10 more horsepower here and some new suspension there, it often felt that the rarest ones available were actually the standard models. But even if it was hard to keep up with, some great sports cars resulted from the strategy, because they were all Lotuses under whichever colour scheme, wheel option or engine output they were getting that month. So they were all brilliant. Recent personal highlights included the Evora GT410 (basically the USA-spec car sold here), the Exige Sport 410 (as fast as the Cup car, not quite so mad) and the Elise Sport 220 (ditto).

The old Series 2 Exige wasn’t short of a special or two, either, from the British GT Edition to the Scura and Matte Black Final Edition to the Espionage. (They’re all Exiges, promise.) All fantastic, too, but even by the exalted standards of the second Exige, a few specials really stand out. The RGB is one of them.

Named in honour of legendary test driver - or Director of Vehicle Engineering, to give him his proper title - Roger Becker, the RGB was launched just after the great man’s retirement in 2010. It represented more than just one farewell, too, as the derivative came at the end of the S2 Exige’s life, and was therefore also one of the last Lotuses to use the Toyota 2ZZ engine, the fizzy four-cylinder that was the perfect match for Elise and Exige. The RGB was a real end-of-an-era car then, with Becker departing and the Exige moving to a larger, heavier, V6 layout - and its spec reflected that.

Not only did it have the most powerful version of the 1.8-litre engine available, using the 260hp supercharged derivative from the Cup 260, the RGB also borrowed other useful upgrades from that circuit special, including a stiffer rear subframe. That was in addition to a Performance Pack and a Sports Pack, upgrading things like brakes and seats. But the Becker Exige was also more liveable - all things being relative - than the hardcore Cup with a Touring Pack that brought electric windows, carpets and a cupholder. It was the traditional run-out special, with all the equipment thrown in, only for a Lotus that meant AP Racing calipers, an adjustable anti-roll bar and a roof scoop…

Naturally, everybody loved the RGB, bringing together all the best bits of the S2 package into one greatest-hits compilation. Many still look back very fondly on the 2ZZ era for Elise and Exige as a high point for both, so it stands to reason that the best of the bunch is still revered over a decade later. Especially given how rare they are, with just 55 believed to have been made

This RGB looks especially good, completely standard and as Hethel intended as well as boasting fewer than 50,000 miles. It benefits from a very recent service, four Toyo R888s and an extensive history. The condition really is remarkable; browse the classifieds for S2s and it isn’t long before a well-worn track car emerges, which makes this one look concours by comparison. Even those cars kept for road use are seldom this nice.

As a result, and because of the RGB’s hallowed status, the asking price is higher than most other S2s, at £39,750. An impressive display of residual strength after all this time. Such is the fondness around this particular Exige, however, that its desirability isn’t going to wane as the years pass; there wasn’t another Lotus like the RGB after this car, and there’s certainly not going to be now. As perhaps the best version of perhaps the best Exige, it’s always going to hold considerable appeal. So don’t wait too long on this one, basically.


SPECIFICATION | LOTUS EXIGE RGB

Engine: 1,796cc, four-cyl
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 260@8,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 174@6,000rpm
MPG: 33
CO2: 199g/km
First registered: 2010
Recorded mileage: 46,000
Price new: c. £45k (2010)
Yours for: £39,750

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NigelCayless

Original Poster:

228 posts

180 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Perfect

Baldchap

9,553 posts

117 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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I've driven a number of Elise and Exige models on road and track and the whole raison d'etre of the Exige over the Elise is the V6 engine.

A 257bhp 1.8 Exige is basically a fat Elise. Yes it has 9bhp more than the flagship 250 Cup (because as we all know the Elise 260 Cup had no more power than the 250, just slightly tweaked aero), but the extra size and weight means physics.

If you're buying a 1.8 four cylinder and you care about weight, you're buying an Elise. If you're buying an Exige you buy the V6. Even if you drive like my nan, buy it for the noise.

Gad-Westy

16,245 posts

238 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Baldchap said:
I've driven a number of Elise and Exige models on road and track and the whole raison d'etre of the Exige over the Elise is the V6 engine.

A 257bhp 1.8 Exige is basically a fat Elise. Yes it has 9bhp more than the flagship 250 Cup (because as we all know the Elise 260 Cup had no more power than the 250, just slightly tweaked aero), but the extra size and weight means physics.

If you're buying a 1.8 four cylinder and you care about weight, you're buying an Elise. If you're buying an Exige you buy the V6. Even if you drive like my nan, buy it for the noise.
Not sure I agree with that. The 2ZZ engine is far more interesting than the 2ZR and I don’t think you can get a 260bhp 2ZZ Elise. I for one would never consider a V6 Exige over my S2.


Edited by Gad-Westy on Sunday 7th May 14:25

911Spanker

3,188 posts

41 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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S1 is the real deal. Everything else are for losers... smile

warrenlovescars

18 posts

110 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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I believe this particular car has been crashed and repaired, hence the price. An RGB in top condition would be north of £45k,

Buyer beware, have the car properly inspected before purchase

Its Just Adz

18,103 posts

234 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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I never understood why people edit out the number plate on photos.

Water Fairy

6,468 posts

180 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Love this. I thought it would be more tbh.

matt5964

170 posts

41 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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warrenlovescars said:
I believe this particular car has been crashed and repaired, hence the price. An RGB in top condition would be north of £45k,

Buyer beware, have the car properly inspected before purchase
This car was ‘repaired’ from minor damage by Jon Seal a well regarded Lotus specialist, and is probably in better condition/prep that any other RGB that’s come up for sale recently, as it’s had a full on refresh.
Only negative is the owner does not mention it, but it’s a well known car and history so not sure why

Often overlooked is the Elise RGB that was also released at the same time, we have had one science 2019 and regularly track it, the 2zz engine with SC with the S3 body is the best combo to me, but I’m biased.

If I had the funds I would definitely be buying this Exige and the history would not worry me as Jon Seal has discussed a few times on forums and FB the work carried out.

Retro.74

294 posts

48 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Love these and intended getting one. Much prefer the revised front clam and rear wing on the later models. I can remember when low mileage examples of the RGBs were sitting around in Lotus dealers and not moving particularly fast at around 34k.
Unfortunately when I was ready to buy a year or 2 later prices had skyrocketed and I couldn't justify it anymore, so ended up with an S3 V6 which to me was and still is better value. The V6 whilst still highly impractical, gives better driveabilty imo with endless torque, is quicker and sounds better to my ears as well.

I think you really got to want an S2 these days to justify paying the price levels they are at, and would probably also go for a 250 Cup given the choice. Still think they are a great car though.

911Spanker

3,188 posts

41 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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matt5964 said:
warrenlovescars said:
I believe this particular car has been crashed and repaired, hence the price. An RGB in top condition would be north of £45k,

Buyer beware, have the car properly inspected before purchase
This car was ‘repaired’ from minor damage by Jon Seal a well regarded Lotus specialist, and is probably in better condition/prep that any other RGB that’s come up for sale recently, as it’s had a full on refresh.
Only negative is the owner does not mention it, but it’s a well known car and history so not sure why

Often overlooked is the Elise RGB that was also released at the same time, we have had one science 2019 and regularly track it, the 2zz engine with SC with the S3 body is the best combo to me, but I’m biased.

If I had the funds I would definitely be buying this Exige and the history would not worry me as Jon Seal has discussed a few times on forums and FB the work carried out.
Any damage to the chassis and does it make it cat car? Or accident damage on track?

Mysstree

547 posts

71 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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  • Wonders if there are more ‘special edition’ Elise / Exige than there are standard ones*?

Iamnotkloot

1,874 posts

172 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Seems a pretty reasonable price for a great car, possibly the crash denting it’s value a bit despite being well repaired.
Anyway, a proper sports/track car.

Terminator X

19,894 posts

229 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Its Just Adz said:
I never understood why people edit out the number plate on photos.
See post above yours.

TX.

honda_exige

8,013 posts

231 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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Baldchap said:
I've driven a number of Elise and Exige models on road and track and the whole raison d'etre of the Exige over the Elise is the V6 engine.

A 257bhp 1.8 Exige is basically a fat Elise. Yes it has 9bhp more than the flagship 250 Cup (because as we all know the Elise 260 Cup had no more power than the 250, just slightly tweaked aero), but the extra size and weight means physics.

If you're buying a 1.8 four cylinder and you care about weight, you're buying an Elise. If you're buying an Exige you buy the V6. Even if you drive like my nan, buy it for the noise.
Exige body shell has space for a charge cooler, Elise doesn't without very significant jiggery pokery. Exige body shell is better for cooling relevant to track work.

matt5964

170 posts

41 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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911Spanker said:
Any damage to the chassis and does it make it cat car? Or accident damage on track?
No chassis damage, don’t think any insurance claim as can’t see it as a cat registered car

matt5964

170 posts

41 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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honda_exige said:
Exige body shell has space for a charge cooler, Elise doesn't without very significant jiggery pokery. Exige body shell is better for cooling relevant to track work.
Komotec and hanger111 do a charge cooler for Elise that fits above drivers side rear wheel arch that’s a neat solution but requires mp62 charger
Exige standard cooler not very efficient being air and right above engine so very prone to heat sink

GTRene

21,308 posts

249 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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hm, so a white RGB Exige or such mat black even more rare? Exige Scura...

911Spanker

3,188 posts

41 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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honda_exige said:
Baldchap said:
I've driven a number of Elise and Exige models on road and track and the whole raison d'etre of the Exige over the Elise is the V6 engine.

A 257bhp 1.8 Exige is basically a fat Elise. Yes it has 9bhp more than the flagship 250 Cup (because as we all know the Elise 260 Cup had no more power than the 250, just slightly tweaked aero), but the extra size and weight means physics.

If you're buying a 1.8 four cylinder and you care about weight, you're buying an Elise. If you're buying an Exige you buy the V6. Even if you drive like my nan, buy it for the noise.
Exige body shell has space for a charge cooler, Elise doesn't without very significant jiggery pokery. Exige body shell is better for cooling relevant to track work.
Aren't these Toyota gearboxes a bit marginal for track use?

matt5964

170 posts

41 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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911Spanker said:
Aren't these Toyota gearboxes a bit marginal for track use?
Good for up to 280bhp , if you drive smooth
3rd/4th synchro is the weak point couple options available to upgrade
We have KAAZ full gear set , final drive and synchro and quaife LSD, when adding the Shiftr111 gear selector, massive difference

Baldchap

9,553 posts

117 months

Sunday 7th May 2023
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911Spanker said:
Aren't these Toyota gearboxes a bit marginal for track use?
I find if you try to rush it and muscle it into gear (like the boy does) they go out of adjustment, if you guide them in and let them decide exactly where they're going, they are fine. Same as anything else really - mechanical sympathy makes a huge difference.

Our Elise has (other than driving there) only really done track miles and whilst it isn't mega mileage, it's bang on. When I was at Hethel doing the four day track thing there I asked about the cars they use and the chap said they get servicing and consumables, but the cars there were all original in terms of engines and gearboxes, all at 20,000+ track miles. They all drove perfectly. They did adjust a fair few linkages, mind!