RE: BMW 130i LE | Spotted
RE: BMW 130i LE | Spotted
Monday 9th October 2023

BMW 130i LE | Spotted

Yellow leather and a punchy price always made the LE an outlier - now it's almost a cult classic...


BMW has a long and (mostly) brilliant history of putting very large straight six engine in cars most would consider too small to house them. Even as far back as the E21 323i, it was determined for the back axle to be given a workout by a great big engine. Over the years cars like the 325ti Compact and M135i have continued the tradition; even today it might be argued that something like the M240i xDrive occupies that space, despite the 2 Series being larger (an xDrive-ier) than ever. There isn’t anything else like it, as per those older models, pairing a relatively compact body with an engine BMW does better than anyone else. 

When the first 1 Series was introduced (almost 20 years ago now), a big six seemed a dead cert, especially given one had featured in the preceding E46 3 Series Compact. In 2005 we got that car, N52-engined 130i, and a compact classic was born. Perhaps it wasn’t the most thrilling hatchback in the world to drive, but in offering a classic rear-drive BMW experience in a model beneath the 3 Series, the 3.0-litre 1 Series won a fair few fans. 

So much so, in fact, that come the time of a 2007 facelift, a three-door model was introduced to compete with those more traditional hot hatches (the 130i having launched as a five-door-only model). To mark the occasion, BMW created something called the LE; just 160 would be allocated to the UK market, priced at £30,300 (or more than £48k in today’s money!), with natty wheels inspired by the 3 Series WTCC racer and offered only in Carbon Black with Lemon leather interior. Yes, really - bold upholstery choices are not reserved to the BMWs of today. Additional M Sport accessories were also included. 

Back then, the LE was really one for the dedicated BMW fans, carrying a near £4k premium over a three-door 130i M Sport for a car very similar to drive. Sports suspension was standard, and the 18-inch wheels would have been on run flats, but it would have been a familiar 1 Series experience. Just with more yellow. With the passage of time, however, it might well be said that the LE has become more interesting, with rarity in its favour and a spec that’s just different enough to mark it out to the eagle eyed. That’s on top of the appeal, seemingly growing by the day, of a manual, rear-drive BMW with the N52 engine. Even looks quite smart, all these years later…

This one looks a particularly nice LE. It’s covered 83,000 miles and is said to boast an ‘outstanding’ service record as well; that’s in addition to four new Goodyear Eagle F1 tyres, recent springs and dampers, plus refurbed alloy wheels. Those in particular look fantastic, showing how well a great set of wheels can really set a car off. Miraculously, the Lemon leather still looks zesty fresh (sorry). 

As the 130i has become more desirable over recent years (the days of £4k cars are long gone, unfortunately), so the LE would inevitably command some extra interest as well. This one is for sale at £9,450; probably more than the last time any of us saw one for sale, but such is the enthusiasm for these little BMWs now. As the future looks uncertain, so people look to the past for their thrills. For some proof of the 130i love in, the selling dealer also has a standard M Sport, which now commands £7k. Still, after its awkward years, it feels like the very best original 1 Series will be cherished for a while yet - particularly the Lemon Edition…


SPECIFICATION | BMW 130i LE 

Engine: 2,996cc, straight-six
Transmission: 6-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 265@6,650rpm
Torque (lb ft): 232@2,750rpm
MPG: 34
CO2: 197g/km
First registered: 2007
Recorded mileage: 83,000
Price new: £30,300
Yours for: £9,450

See the original advert here

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Water Fairy

Original Poster:

6,361 posts

176 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Wasn't aware of these at all tbh

Too much chrome trim for me

Cheaper cars undoubtedly a better bet

Krikkit

27,757 posts

202 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Rather have a boggo, although the wheels are good.

Tbh just get a 330i instead, the 130i was a thoroughly rubbish car with a fantastic engine.

asci.white

497 posts

94 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Krikkit said:
Rather have a boggo, although the wheels are good.

Tbh just get a 330i instead, the 130i was a thoroughly rubbish car with a fantastic engine.
Disagree.

The run flats caused most of the handling issues. Since getting normal tyres on my 130i I can say from experience its a lovely drive that sticks to the road. Has quite a turn of speed too..

Court_S

14,488 posts

198 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Krikkit said:
Rather have a boggo, although the wheels are good.

Tbh just get a 330i instead, the 130i was a thoroughly rubbish car with a fantastic engine.
Not at all…the 130i is a great little car and feels much more urgent than a 330i. They’re much more fun to drive and finding a manual 330i isn’t easy.

The facelift cars are much better inside than the very early cars although you do sacrifice the HPAS for EPAS.

Court_S

14,488 posts

198 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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I bought my LE from Jason Barker. You pay a premium but usually get a good car.

Mine came with Birds B1 springs / dampers plus the very rare carbon intake and aero spoiler.



I also added M3 LCA’s and camber plates which improved the front end and a 135i exhaust added a bit extra to the noise.

It was a really good, fun little car but that was the problem it was really small inside.

Krikkit

27,757 posts

202 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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asci.white said:
Krikkit said:
Rather have a boggo, although the wheels are good.

Tbh just get a 330i instead, the 130i was a thoroughly rubbish car with a fantastic engine.
Disagree.

The run flats caused most of the handling issues. Since getting normal tyres on my 130i I can say from experience its a lovely drive that sticks to the road. Has quite a turn of speed too..
I wasn't talking about handling, but even with the run-flats ditched it was very average - the same symptom that plagued the M135i etc after it - cheap dampers and too stiff. Yes you can fit the Birds suspension and faff with it, but from factory it was a car more set up for the track than flowing down a broken UK road.

I was more talking about the 1-series as a whole being a crap car. The OBC is rubbish, the rear doors are a deeply annoying/useless shape, fuel tank too small, interior quality very meh, window line too high so it feels like driving a pillbox, intrusive traction control, the front end looks aren't great (none of the 1-series look good imho).

Court_S said:
Not at all…the 130i is a great little car and feels much more urgent than a 330i. They’re much more fun to drive and finding a manual 330i isn’t easy.
Final drive and 100kg made it a bit more urgent, but it was hardly night and day. Agree finding a manual is hard work, but worth it imho.

Ray_Aber

718 posts

297 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Lovely wheels, but the car profile looks like Scooby Doo's head, which is a look I never warmed to. Curiously, the chrome on this particular example doe remove that image somewhat.

Still, every dog has its day.

DoubleSix

12,358 posts

197 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Making a bit much of the Lemon leather link in this article. It was freely available to anyone who ticked the box… LE or not. I have it in my msport which looks better than this (IMHO) and doesn’t have the horrible chrome trim.



Many of the car’s shortcomings are correctly listed above but it really is an interesting car to pedal, arguably more interesting than my 340i.

I keep threatening to move it on and buy an M2 but something stops me. Just a quirky little car that i’ve owned longer than any other (over 10 years) and the engine always makes me smile on the rare occasions I drive it.

Back in the day these attracted a fair few mods and i added:

- BMW Performance Exhaust
- BMW Carbon Intake
- BMW Performance Spoiler
- BMW fitted Alpine sound kit

I recommend anyone looking to pick one up get an LCI and seek out the dynamic Xenons which lift the front end (alot!) and provide the LEDs at the rear. The LCI also benefits from better interior finish and wider rear wheels.



Edited by DoubleSix on Monday 9th October 16:41

AndyWoodall

2,689 posts

280 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Everyone shat on this design when it came out, but now look at it, looks bloody brilliant!

I'd not heard of the LE model though, that was news to me. Lovely sounding engine.

RS Grant

1,727 posts

254 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Got a lot of time for the 130i, quite a Q-car from my experience.

However if that seller is the same person who used to be involved with car sales at Birds Garage then I wouldn't give him a penny of my money. Absolute cowboy, both him and the mockney salesman Gordon who used to work at Birds Garage.

Wheel Turned Out

1,922 posts

59 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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AndyWoodall said:
Everyone shat on this design when it came out, but now look at it, looks bloody brilliant!

I'd not heard of the LE model though, that was news to me. Lovely sounding engine.
My own personal opinion of course, but any improvements in perception are only in relation to just how much of a dive into the septic tank BMW styling has taken lately. Didn't think they looked great then, don't think they look great now.

Turbobanana

7,701 posts

222 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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In the style of "Yes Minister"

Bernard Woolley said:
Do you like the 130i LE, Sir Humphrey?
Sir Humphrey Appleby said:
Bernard, I have owned in excess of 20 cars over the last 30 years. If I liked all of them I would have been passionately committed to rear wheel drive and passionately committed to front wheel drive; I would have been utterly convinced of the rightness of petrol, and of the rightness of diesel. On transmissions, I would have been a fervent supporter of manual and an advocate of automatic; on brand loyalty an ardent BMW fan and a hater. Chris Bangle’s designs would both move me, and move me to tears.
Bernard Woolley said:
So do you like it then, Sir Humphrey?
Sir Humphrey Appleby said:
When one is faced with a question so deep and significant as whether one likes something, it’s important to understand that one must express one’s own views and not those of others, notwithstanding and pressure exerted by said others intent on influencing one’s view. With that in mind I’m inclined to respond to your enquiry in the negative, Bernard, on this occasion.
Bernard Woolley said:
So, that’s a “no”, Sir Humphrey?
Sir Humphrey Appleby said:
Yes.
The Right Honourable James Hacker MP said:
Eh?

wistec1

710 posts

62 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Them who knows. Knows. I closely decided against one of these four years ago in favor of the rarer mini Goodwood and one of only 5 in the UK in reef blue in fact I've only just sold it 2 weeks ago with zero depreciation. I'm tempted at this LE they are a rare car.

Krikkit

27,757 posts

202 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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wistec1 said:
Them who knows. Knows. I closely decided against one of these four years ago in favor of the rarer mini Goodwood and one of only 5 in the UK in reef blue in fact I've only just sold it 2 weeks ago with zero depreciation. I'm tempted at this LE they are a rare car.
If you want rarity then build yourself a really nice E46 330Ti - a better car to boot.

Quhet

2,769 posts

167 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Krikkit said:
wistec1 said:
Them who knows. Knows. I closely decided against one of these four years ago in favor of the rarer mini Goodwood and one of only 5 in the UK in reef blue in fact I've only just sold it 2 weeks ago with zero depreciation. I'm tempted at this LE they are a rare car.
If you want rarity then build yourself a really nice E46 330Ti - a better car to boot.
They didn't do a 330Ti, only a 325.

To my eye, these 1 Series' are looking better and better as time goes on. This looks like a nice example and pretty fresh with that leather. The dash and steering wheel let it down though and do look very dated.

Krikkit

27,757 posts

202 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Quhet said:
Krikkit said:
wistec1 said:
Them who knows. Knows. I closely decided against one of these four years ago in favor of the rarer mini Goodwood and one of only 5 in the UK in reef blue in fact I've only just sold it 2 weeks ago with zero depreciation. I'm tempted at this LE they are a rare car.
If you want rarity then build yourself a really nice E46 330Ti - a better car to boot.
They didn't do a 330Ti, only a 325.
I know, that's why I said BUILD a 330Ti, not BUY one.

rossub

5,438 posts

211 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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AndyWoodall said:
Everyone shat on this design when it came out, but now look at it, looks bloody brilliant!.
Matter of opinion…..looked terrible then and still looks terrible now.

Court_S

14,488 posts

198 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Krikkit said:
asci.white said:
Krikkit said:
Rather have a boggo, although the wheels are good.

Tbh just get a 330i instead, the 130i was a thoroughly rubbish car with a fantastic engine.
Disagree.

The run flats caused most of the handling issues. Since getting normal tyres on my 130i I can say from experience its a lovely drive that sticks to the road. Has quite a turn of speed too..
I wasn't talking about handling, but even with the run-flats ditched it was very average - the same symptom that plagued the M135i etc after it - cheap dampers and too stiff. Yes you can fit the Birds suspension and faff with it, but from factory it was a car more set up for the track than flowing down a broken UK road.

I was more talking about the 1-series as a whole being a crap car. The OBC is rubbish, the rear doors are a deeply annoying/useless shape, fuel tank too small, interior quality very meh, window line too high so it feels like driving a pillbox, intrusive traction control, the front end looks aren't great (none of the 1-series look good imho).

Court_S said:
Not at all…the 130i is a great little car and feels much more urgent than a 330i. They’re much more fun to drive and finding a manual 330i isn’t easy.
Final drive and 100kg made it a bit more urgent, but it was hardly night and day. Agree finding a manual is hard work, but worth it imho.
As for the car being too stiff, isn’t that 3 series just as bad given that they share so many parts?

The OBC is the same as it was on the E9x 3 series…the interior quality of the pre-facelift cars is poor; the door cards with no fabric insert we’re nasty. The facelift cars are fine and compare well enough to the competition of the time. The main touch points like the wheel and gear stick are shared with the 3 series as is other switchgear.

I think they look good, especially in three door format, but I like this era BMW.

My 130i felt more urgent than my old 330i; the N52 powered 330i got the older magnesium topped engine with less power. Even with a remap, our current 330i feels a decent chunk slower than my 130i did.

Krikkit

27,757 posts

202 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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Court_S said:
As for the car being too stiff, isn’t that 3 series just as bad given that they share so many parts?
Different setup between them.

Court_S said:
The OBC is the same as it was on the E9x 3 series…
Yep, and it nearly ruins that as well, it's a conversion from treating drivers like adults to barely-competent children and deeply annoying with its endless beeping nonsense.

Court_S said:
...the interior quality of the pre-facelift cars is poor; the door cards with no fabric insert we’re nasty. The facelift cars are fine and compare well enough to the competition of the time. The main touch points like the wheel and gear stick are shared with the 3 series as is other switchgear.
Yep very true, just the 1-series specifically in early form feels very nasty for its original price point.

Court_S said:
My 130i felt more urgent than my old 330i; the N52 powered 330i got the older magnesium topped engine with less power. Even with a remap, our current 330i feels a decent chunk slower than my 130i did.
Early vs late N52 isn't really a fair comparison as the later engines gained quite a lot from ditching HPAS and improvements etc. The HPAS-equipped early car still had more than enough power to be fun imho. In the age of turbocharged and EVs I find straight-line performance to be less and less relevant, but either car with over 250hp is plenty for everyday fun and performance for me.

nismo48

6,046 posts

228 months

Monday 9th October 2023
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rossub said:
AndyWoodall said:
Everyone shat on this design when it came out, but now look at it, looks bloody brilliant!.
Matter of opinion…..looked terrible then and still looks terrible now.
Have to agree it's not a pretty looking thing