RE: Audi RS3 (8P) | PH Fleet
RE: Audi RS3 (8P) | PH Fleet
Thursday 12th December 2024

Audi RS3 (8P) | PH Fleet

Ben is not the first to find fault with how an old RS3 gets up a road. Time to do something about it...


While Audi could never apply the ‘win on Sunday, sell on Monday’ reasoning to the RS3, they’ve leaned heavily on the rally heritage of the turbocharged inline-five from the off. Yet despite never having competed on a rally stage, it didn’t quell my excitement when time came to drive RJ12 HRF up to north Wales for the Cambrian Rally.

It had been far too long since I’d stood in a forest for hours with a flask of tea sporting my 555 beanie (no jacket, sadly) and despite having no Wales Rally GB anymore, the Cambrian didn’t disappoint. The RS3 even got some attention from fellow rally fans at the stage, which given the rarity of the 8P, I wasn’t really expecting. It’s a car that flies under the radar on the daily commute but those who know, know.

Not only did the trip give me an opportunity to watch some of the best motorsport we have to offer in the UK, but it also gave me plenty of time to put my new suspension setup through its paces. A fast Audi is never going to be the most rewarding hot hatch to drive, granted - but there’s always room for improvement and the need to dial out understeer.

While I love to work on my cars when I have the time, I rarely seem to get the chance these days so I paid a trip to our friends at Charles Gates Racing to get everything fitted. I opted for Bilstein’s B16 coilovers, which are adjustable for both ride height and damping. At the back I’ve added a 034 Motorsport rear anti-roll bar to help dial out understeer and up front the wishbones are now fully polybushed with Whiteline’s lower control arm bushes and anti-lift kit. Along with a mild fast road geometry setup (and me being very fussy over ride height), I was in and out in a day.

The result? Mega. Being coilovers, of course the ride is still firm. But where the OEM dampers would feel brittle, crashing and rattling over bumps and uneven surfaces, the B16s are far superior at smoothing out imperfections. Moreover, at 70k OEM dampers are generally going to be knackered and in need of replacement, so upgrading felt like a no-brainer. I’ve kept them in their softest setting for the road, but will dial up the rebound when I get it back out on track. The Whiteline bits up front along with the geo have made the front end sharper, the car turning in more keenly, and generating the confidence to push harder as a result.

Overall the balance is still very neutral on the road, and I’ll have to wait until I get it back on track to see how well the setup has dialled out the understeer that shone through in abundance at Curborough earlier in the year.

I always used to chase more power as soon as I bought a car but if our project car Mk5 Golf GTI project taught me anything last year, it’s that getting the fundamentals right with suspension, brakes and tyres are far more important and offered the biggest lap time gains on track, too. With 340hp the RS3 doesn’t feel it's wanting for more power so while it’s tempting, I think I’ll leave it as it is for now.

It really does feel like I’ve got the complete do-it-all package now with the RS3. It felt at home charging across Wales on a Friday night in the dark, lapping up miles with ease and driving better than ever. We’ll see what next year brings but in the meantime, I’ll enjoy the best season of the year for an all-wheel-drive hot hatch.


FACT SHEET

Car: 2012 Audi RS3
Run by: Ben Lowden
On fleet since: September 2023
Mileage: 71,006
Modifications: Milltek non-resonated exhaust system, Bilstein B16 coilovers, 034 Motorsport rear anti-roll bar, Whiteline anti-lift kit and lower control arm bushes, EBC Yellow Stuff brake pads, K&N panel filter

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fantheman80

Original Poster:

2,272 posts

69 months

Friday 13th December 2024
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Nice one Ben, buuuuuut I really think you need to make the most of that glorious engine, you don’t have to chase big numbers like the typical RS3 draggy mob, but a good remap will make the best of those mods. Drove the 8y standard and mapped, night and day

bbr92

47 posts

183 months

Friday 13th December 2024
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Visit MRC tuning!!! You will be glad you did on the drive home.

GreatScott2016

2,118 posts

108 months

Friday 13th December 2024
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For all its imperfections, this is still a very good looking car and ticks lots of boxes for me smile

FaustF

788 posts

174 months

Friday 13th December 2024
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Excellent choice of upgrades Ben, agree, power chasing is fun but actually there are far more areas that are more 'fun' to improve such as brakes and suspension and steering.

Really enjoy the updates , great car set up you've got there.

s94wht

2,205 posts

79 months

Friday 13th December 2024
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Smart looking car. Much nicer than the current, overstyled crop

WCZ

11,240 posts

214 months

Friday 13th December 2024
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fantheman80 said:
Nice one Ben, buuuuuut I really think you need to make the most of that glorious engine, you don’t have to chase big numbers like the typical RS3 draggy mob, but a good remap will make the best of those mods. Drove the 8y standard and mapped, night and day
this

NGK210

4,374 posts

165 months

Friday 13th December 2024
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Handsome and stealthy. Nice.

Did you add a wee bit of toe-out to the front? (OG Mini Cooper S trick, which also worked well on Mk2 GTIs.)

A remap must be tempting, but how much lb-ft headroom is there in the gearbox, clutch, driveshafts and Haldex? If it’s anything like VAG’s O2M gearbox, the answer is: Not much.

Abarth131

5,960 posts

227 months

Friday 13th December 2024
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s94wht said:
Smart looking car. Much nicer than the current, overstyled crop
+1

IMI A

9,911 posts

221 months

Friday 13th December 2024
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Abarth131 said:
s94wht said:
Smart looking car. Much nicer than the current, overstyled crop
+1
+2

popeyewhite

23,008 posts

140 months

Friday 13th December 2024
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NGK210 said:
Handsome and stealthy. Nice.

Did you add a wee bit of toe-out to the front? (OG Mini Cooper S trick, which also worked well on Mk2 GTIs.)

A remap must be tempting, but how much lb-ft headroom is there in the gearbox, clutch, driveshafts and Haldex? If it’s anything like VAG’s O2M gearbox, the answer is: Not much.
Nah there's easily enough for a safe, basic remap. Also, OP, a remap isn't totally about power increase, but delivery as well.

CG2020UK

2,753 posts

60 months

Friday 13th December 2024
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“it’s that getting the fundamentals right with suspension, brakes and tyres are far more important”

Couldn’t agree more!

Maccmike8

1,470 posts

74 months

Friday 13th December 2024
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Absolutely right approach. No point imo chasing power on knackered suspension etc.

Konan

2,250 posts

166 months

Friday 13th December 2024
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No no no. Big turbo, boost to 11, then spend all your time working out what didn't cope with it wink

popeyewhite

23,008 posts

140 months

Saturday 14th December 2024
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CG2020UK said:
“it’s that getting the fundamentals right with suspension, brakes and tyres are far more important”

Couldn’t agree more!
Clearly exhaust noise is a fundamental to the OP as well. Bit of a mystery spending £xxxx on a full non res Mil-tek without a map, but there you go.

Ben Lowden

7,187 posts

197 months

PH Marketing Bloke

Sunday 15th December 2024
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Thanks for all the comments thumbup

NGK210 said:
Handsome and stealthy. Nice.

Did you add a wee bit of toe-out to the front? (OG Mini Cooper S trick, which also worked well on Mk2 GTIs.)

A remap must be tempting, but how much lb-ft headroom is there in the gearbox, clutch, driveshafts and Haldex? If it’s anything like VAG’s O2M gearbox, the answer is: Not much.
I'm not sure on the set up to be honest, but I'm very happy with it. I think generally a stage 1 remap should be safe but reliability is my top priority at the moment and quite frankly it's already bloody fast. I'd love to experience a remap, but not sure I really need one.

popeyewhite said:
Clearly exhaust noise is a fundamental to the OP as well. Bit of a mystery spending £xxxx on a full non res Mil-tek without a map, but there you go.
It's just a cat-back system rather than a full turbo-back with downpipe. You don't need either for a stage 1 remap, but the latter is needed if someone wants to go for a stage 2 map.

CG2020UK

2,753 posts

60 months

Sunday 15th December 2024
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popeyewhite said:
Clearly exhaust noise is a fundamental to the OP as well. Bit of a mystery spending £xxxx on a full non res Mil-tek without a map, but there you go.
Admittedly I do love the sound of the 8P with Mil-tek so won’t complain biglaugh

https://youtu.be/E-p_Spx7GcQ?si=4VZpI_yeXngqNO1N

I think it had already been installed when it was purchased but based on the first post.

fflump

2,777 posts

58 months

Sunday 15th December 2024
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This RS3 looks to be a great modding car. Good to start with and plenty of room to get even better. The years have been kind to this model pretty understated for an RS.

popeyewhite

23,008 posts

140 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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Ben Lowden said:
It's just a cat-back system rather than a full turbo-back with downpipe.
Non-res for the full racket eh? biggrin



RSstuff

840 posts

35 months

Monday 16th December 2024
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The best thing about the RS3 has always been the engine. Nothing wrong with that, but you do need to wait to go fast in the corners.

Ben Lowden

7,187 posts

197 months

PH Marketing Bloke

Monday 16th December 2024
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popeyewhite said:
Non-res for the full racket eh? biggrin
Absolutely thumbup It's still valved like the OEM system though, so can be sensible when needed.

RSstuff said:
The best thing about the RS3 has always been the engine. Nothing wrong with that, but you do need to wait to go fast in the corners.
I couldn't agree more, although it does corner even better now thanks to the new setup.